George Zimmerman /Trayvon Martin General Discussion #14 Friday July 12

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  • #941
Then how did he manage to collect hundreds of thousands of dollars?

Initially a few wealthy donors. The nation appeared to be behind TM before all the facts came out. IMO MOO. There were no rallies for GZ that I know of.
 
  • #942
Does he have to be injured at all? Ummm. no. Sit down Guy. IMO
 
  • #943
Prosecution just admitted that Trayvon did hit George.
 
  • #944
child child child kid kid kid blah blah blah...... call him what he was a teenager, a grown young man, late teens etc.

NOT an innocent little kid walking home from the store with skittles.

JMO

I think he's actually helping the defense with that, so he can keep it up as far as I'm concered. I think every single woman on that jury knows that Trayvon was no child, so they must be wondering why the prosecution is trying so hard to get them to ignore reality. jmo
 
  • #945
Then how did he manage to collect hundreds of thousands of dollars?

Because by the end of May 2012 the truth was finally starting to coming out.

that's why

IMO
 
  • #946
If that U definitively matched the water meter cover, don't you think the Prosecution would have presented that? BDLA showed the water meter cover in his closing and said something to the effect of, maybe the cover had something to do with the injuries. Maybe? That doesn't work for me if I'm a juror.

IMO

I don't think prosecution looked enough to see it. In fact, I think the charges and trial are a sham. IMO
 
  • #947
So you're getting your head slammed and you're supposed to be able to determine how "serious" your injuries may or may not be? This is part of the State case that just boggles my mind. Anyone would be in fear of their life if their head is being repeatedly slammed against concrete. The State seems to be saying his head should have been split open for this to be a case of self-defense. IMO
 
  • #948
Wow, called GZ mr. stay puft.
 
  • #949
And pretty to look at :)

Personally, I don't care how attractive an attorney is.

Juan Martinez (Jodi Arias prosecutor) isn't a man who I necessarily find physically attractive, but I greatly admire his prosecutorial genius (despite the fact that he raises his voice a lot, lol). Because of his amazing ability to gather mountains of factual evidence & present it in a courtroom, he is a hunk, in my eyes.

Forensically speaking, factual evidence is, IMO, beautiful. Factual evidence is absolutely mandatory, as far as I'm concerned, in order to overcome all reasonable doubt.

Conversely, the lack of factual evidence to prove beyond any and all reasonable doubt is hideous, and is a travesty of justice, when bringing a charge of 2nd degree murder.

MOO
 
  • #950
Drinking Game!

Take a drink every time John Guy says: THAT CHILD

We can be drunk by 12:45

IN MY OPINION
 
  • #951
Again, Name calling, Emotion.. No fact.
 
  • #952
This is simply further argument. Not a rebuttal.


IMO
 
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  • #954
I've been out all day and am headed out again, so I've missed closing arguments. How's it looking so far?
 
  • #955
I think he's actually helping the defense with that, so he can keep it up as far as I'm concered. I think every single woman on that jury knows that Trayvon was no child, so they must be wondering why the prosecution is trying so hard to get them to ignore reality. jmo

I agree. I think that he's going overboard with that and it's turning the jury off. MOO.
 
  • #956
You nailed it! This sums up the crux of the trial that many seem to have missed, IMO.


:winner:
No, that would negate the innocent until proven guilty. The prosecution must PROVE it to be murder. Reasonable doubt goes to the defense, not the prosecution. Prosecution puts on their version of events, and the defense's job is to re-interpret those events. If you jury has doubt, they are instructed to find the defendent not guilty.

MOO:moo::moo::twocents::twocents:
 
  • #957
OH my gosh.. He had to stay in his car? really Guy??
Where is that statute..?>
 
  • #958
This is great. They didn't even need the previous 2 hrs, IMO.
 
  • #959
Does the state not realize that in advancing the theory that GZ couldn't reach his gun because TM was straddling him concedes that TM was on top of GZ beating him up? JMO. OMO. MOO.
 
  • #960
Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV

The state again is focusing on #Zimmermanon9 's statement rather than evidence of what happened.

IMO
Isn't that in evidence? Ergo it's evidence IMO
 
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