George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin General discussion #2

[iluvmua]

According to the autopsy report, he was shot at an angle.

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

In all these pics GZ has already been cleaned up.

 

[polleypockets]

The witness saw him on top of GZ right before the shot went off I believe.

do you know who this witness is?? and di we have copies of discovery??? ok, i am catching up, if TM was n top of GZ, how did he end up face down when he was shot?

 

[iluvmua]

And if anyone is listening to this current witness...

There was no blood found anywhere around the scene. So where did the blood from GZ's head that was repeatedly banged into the cement go?

He was cleaned up before he was taken to the police station.

 

[m00c0w]

In all these pics GZ has already been cleaned up.

But you can definitely see his crooked nose.

 

[popsicle]

It was raining.

 

[corundogs]

That makes complete sense to me because George was under TM. He shot up.

Lay on your back...and try to get a shot off that goes straight in, with no angle...to someone straddling you. That person is not horizontal, but angled over you.

I have tried this multiple times.

 

[Irisha]

Okay, so you believe the PA had some motive to lie or to assess the injury as a closed fracture to the nose? Do you happen to know the treatment for a broken nose? Do you also happen to know what getting an x-ray, aside from costing possibly a lot of money, would do with regards to Zimmerman's treatment? If the PA can assess it's a broken nose and provide treatment for it... Why would someone then get an x-ray to say the same thing the PA said with no added value?

Remember, Zimmerman wasn't thinking he was going to have to mount a defense at this time. He was let go and was trying to go back to work.

IMO

Wouldn't a xray show the extent of the injuries? Maybe surgery would have been needed. Apparently wasn't very bad.

 

[m00c0w]

And if anyone is listening to this current witness...

There was no blood found anywhere around the scene. So where did the blood from GZ's head that was repeatedly banged into the cement go?

Yeah, where'd all the blood on the back of his head in the pictures at the police station go?

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

And if anyone is listening to this current witness...

There was no blood found anywhere around the scene. So where did the blood from GZ's head that was repeatedly banged into the cement go?

The rain washed it away.. just as the blood that would have been from TM.

 

[corundogs]

He was cleaned up before he was taken to the police station.

I am talking about the blood on his head on the cement. She stated there WAS NONE!!!

 

[AngelWings444]

That makes complete sense to me because George was under TM. He shot up.

Sounds to me like GZ might have been on top, put the gun against Trayvon's chest and killed him. It would have to be a really lucky shot to get a straight angle if GZ was on the bottom, being beaten up and "fighting for his life". Didn't GZ say they were wrestling, Trayvon was covering his mouth, nose etc..? A straight shot doesn't make sense with GZ's latest version. No sense at all.

 

[polleypockets]

That makes complete sense to me because George was under TM. He shot up.

but if george is under TM and TM is sitting on him, how does TM end up shot lying face down?? what is described would result in TM falling backwards and ending up on his back imo?

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

Yeah, where'd all the blood on the back of his head in the pictures at the police station go?

The Prosecution is choosing pictures from after he was cleaned up.

 

[popsicle]

I am talking about the blood on his head on the cement. She stated there WAS NONE!!!

It was raining.

 

[iluvmua]

do you know who this witness is?? and di we have copies of discovery??? ok, i am catching up, if TM was n top of GZ, how did he end up face down when he was shot?[/QUOTE]

The witness is named John, he is the one who saw TM on top of GZ.

TM was on top of george when he fired the shot that killed him, he then got out from underneath him and trayvon fell forward.

I believe this is in the police reports.

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

but if george is under TM and TM is sitting on him, how does TM end up shot lying face down?? what is described would result in TM falling backwards and ending up on his back imo?

TM was on top of GZ beating him. When GZ shot him holding the gun point up my guess is that TM fell straight down. and GZ crawled out.

 

[PaperDoll]

I'm wondering why GZ clothes are not dirty, I would think he would have some dirt on the back of his jacket, even grass stains. Am I missing something?

 

[m00c0w]

Wouldn't a xray show the extent of the injuries? Maybe surgery would have been needed. Apparently wasn't very bad.

Surgery is generally pretty uncommon for a broken nose, and is generally only for realignment of the nose. I guess you can try to characterize a broken nose as "not very bad", but when it's only one of several injuries...

 

[corundogs]

The rain washed it away.. just as the blood that would have been from TM.

It wasn't raining that hard.

Blood is still SOMEWHERE, even if washed away. It's washed away to somewhere. This is a crime scene investigator. They know to look for blood, wherever it might be. They mark a single drop.

TM did not bleed that much because his heart was immediately stopped with the bullet...no blood to pump out. It wasn't washed away, it was never really there.