George Zimmerman /Trayvon Martin General Discussion #6

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  • #681
Dispatcher: "Do you want to meet with LE when they get out there".

Nowhere in this call, does LE ask GZ if HE still wants LE to come out. They were on their way.
 
  • #682
He also stated that Trayvon went for the gun. I don't believe any of it. JMO


I believe TM saw the gun and got scared and tried hard to not get shot :twocents: :(
 
  • #683
Dispatcher asks for GZ's phone number, says they will have LE call him when they get out there. Again, at no point to LE ask GZ if they still wanted LE to come out!
 
  • #684
In taped interview, they call GZ out on running after Trayvon, or "fast walking".

Yes. They're trying to trip him up. But they can't. Because the basis of his story doesn't change. JMO. OMO. MOO.
 
  • #685
Ok This is important. In Zimmerman's earlier interview with officer, he says he doesn't return to vehicle because he is walking forward to get an address for dispatcher who is asking for location.

This is not true according the 911 call playing now. Dispatcher clearly tells Zimmerman not to follow suspect. But GZ is in pursuit. No mention at all about GZ getting street number & address for dispatcher.
 
  • #686
Yes it did. On the tape they played The dispatcher asked if he still needed LE to come. I remember hearing it. Sorry I can not tell you where but I will see if I can isolate it.
I thought I did not hear that, so please post the link if you can find it. Thanks, I know I'm being so lazy today, but AZ is in the 4th day of 110 + degrees.
 
  • #687
Yes it did. On the tape they played The dispatcher asked if he still needed LE to come. I remember hearing it. Sorry I can not tell you where but I will see if I can isolate it.

IMO - this wasn't on the call that they just played in court.
 
  • #688
People on twitter spell it "homie". I just googled it and it appears that's the correct spelling...homie.

JMO, as usual
LOL ... I knew it looked strange. Geez. You'd think I would have caught that. :banghead: Too much multitasking for my old brain. That'll teach me. DO NOT TELL MY DAUGHTER or her friends, please. :blushing: :floorlaugh:
 
  • #689
GZ was "frustrated" he couldn't remember the address.

Taped interview
 
  • #690
LE definitely just called GZ out on why he didn't go back to his truck. I'm paraphrasing, but "It's raining, you're getting wet, and you say you've written this guy off. So why didn't you go back to your car?" Bingo.

"Why would they [LE] need to call you?" Again, bingo.

Imo, all extremely pertinent questions.
 
  • #691
Officers on the tape are pointing out Zimmerman's lies about being in pursuit TM.
 
  • #692
Could it have been a joint? Wasn't there THC in TM's system. Just asking, don't attack me!

There was no joint or anything resembling pot found on Trayvon. Yes he did have it in his system but pot stays in your system 30 days so he could have smoked it a while before he was shot.
 
  • #693
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I feel so bad for Trayvon's parents. Rough stuff for any parent.
 
  • #695
This tape is making me get back up on the fence.
 
  • #696
I'd like to see that protocol if you have a link.

When you holster your gun that means its once again in a safe position. Why would he not do it- Does he throw it on the ground perhaps? Or maybe carry it around in his hand at the scene.

Its gun safety- everyone who owns a gun should know this.
 
  • #697
I think you should wait and hear some of the character witnesses when the Defense puts on their case. BTW you forgot to add (imo) after your Dirty Harry comment...I have not seen ANY evidence that he had a personality like that - he seems quite mild mannered and very respectful. IMO

*BBM*
Just to put an idea out there...
Perhaps his being perceived as mild mannered and respectful was why he wanted to insert a little "tough guy" into his image?
Just a scenario.


BTW, Ted Bundy could also be quite mild mannered and respectful. I know GZ is not in league with Ted, just making a point that people are not always what they project to the world.
 
  • #698
Yes. They're trying to trip him up. But they can't. Because the basis of his story doesn't change. JMO. OMO. MOO.

The detective, Mike Brooks, on HLN has interviewed thousands of individuals. He says Zimmerman's accounts are all substantially the same. No huge discrepancies or problems with his statements and interviews in his opinion. :twocents:
 
  • #699
IMO - GZ saying that Trayvon said "you got me" is total BS and not physically possible. Nor did Trayvon sit up. GZ did not put Trayvon's arms out either. IF he did, was he so kind to tuck the "suspects" hands back underneath his body.

Can someone here that is supporting this self defense case, please answer my earlier question. If there were prior reports about his neighbors house being robber, GZ was the one who called it in, GZ states the neighbor left his house unlocked etc...how in the world did GZ not know the name of the street? GZ knew the street name! Then, he states that the dispatcher told him they needed the "exact location"...that didn't happen. It's not on the tape. This is why I can't buy his story. From the very beginning, he didn't tell the truth. Why? People who don't have things to hide, tell the truth! From his own recordings and statements, he clearly knew the dispatcher told him not to follow Trayvon. Those are GZ's words.

Facts and some opinion.

GM stated, "you got it" ... LE (Singleton) was the one who said, "you got me." Here's an analysis and transcript:

ZIMMERMAN TRIAL: EVIDENTIARY FLASHBACK: Zimmerman Recalls Fatal Fight to Police

By Andrew Branca, Attorney at Law
June 14th, 2013 | Florida
http://lawofselfdefense.com/zimmerm...back-zimmerman-recalls-fatal-fight-to-police/

Below is a snippet from the transcript of the February 27, 2012 Sanford Police Department interview of George Zimmerman by Investigator Singleton, the day after the shooting of Trayvon Martin.

(Strangely, the transcript states it was taken on February 22, but the shooting did not occur until February 26, so it is likely the transcriptionist simply misheard the date when listening to the audio recording. “Twenty-second” and “twenty-seventh” can easily be confused on a poor quality audio recording replayed through a transcription machine.)

___________________________________________

. . .

Zimmerman: I was leaving to go to the grocery store and, like I said, I saw him, uh, walking in the neighborhood, the same, in front of the same house that I had called the police before to come to because this guy leaves his doors unlocked and stuff and, he was walking leisurely and looking at the houses and, um, so I just pulled my car to the side and I called the non-emergency line.

Singleton: Okay.

Zimmerman: Uh,–

Singleton: Were you, were you, were you armed at this point?

Zimmerman: Yes, ma’am.

Singleton: You were already armed, okay.

Zimmerman: Yes, ma’am. And, I called the non-emergency line and I just reported that there was a suspicious person in the neighborhoo. Um, the dispatcher, whoeever answered the phone, asked me where they went and I said I wasn’t sure because I lsot visual of him when he went in between houses and, uh, he said, “Well, can you tell me what direction he went in,” and I said, “Not really.” Um, and then all of a sudden I see him circling my car, and then he goes back into the darkness. So–

Singleton: **** you pull out of your house and you’re heading–

Zimmerman: Yes, ma’am.

Singleton: You’re on the phone and he dips between two houses, is that what you mean?

Zimmerman: Yes, ma’am. ‘Cause he–

Singleton: So, you lose sight of him.

Zimmerman: Correct and then he comes back out.

Singleton: Mm hmm.

Zimmerman: And circles my car while I’m on the phone with the police.

Singleton: Okay, is he saying anything to you?

Zimmerman: I couldn’t him. My windows were up.

Singleton: Okay.

Zimmerman: As soon as I saw him coming at me, I rolled up my windows and I stayed on the phone with dispatch.

Singleton: Okay, he, your car was running.

Zimmerman: Yes, ma’am.

Singleton: The lights were on?

Zimmerman: Yes, ma’am.

<mod snip>
. . .

___________________________________________

Zimmerman&#8217;s own testimony can, of course, be seen as self-serving. Nevertheless, this is entirely legitimate evidence that the State must overcome if it is to prove Zimmerman guilty, beyond a reasonable doubt, of a crime in this case.


http://lawofselfdefense.com/zimmerm...back-zimmerman-recalls-fatal-fight-to-police/
 
  • #700
Here is a guy walking around with a gun protecting a community where he lives and he doesn't know the name of the streets in Twin Lakes much less the addresses.
I don't believe anymore of GZ's stories. It is all smoke.

I can't figure that one out either. He was the NW captain and had maps of the neighborhood that he distributed to the block captains. (or whatever they are called) There were only 3 streets in the neighborhood, correct?
 
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