George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin General discussion

[especiallyheather]

I would like to hear an enhanced version of that screaming, cries for help phone call several times. To me that call, and Zimmerman's refusal to stand down when instructed in his call to 911, are keys to juror's decision

Is there another 911 call (the first was NOT a 911 call, but a non emergency #) because in the non emergency call, he DID stand down. He stayed put and answered Shawn's questions. TIA!

 

[Angelina Frost]

I would like to hear an enhanced version of that screaming, cries for help phone call several times. To me that call, and Zimmerman's refusal to stand down when instructed in his call to 911, are keys to juror's decision

Very important to me is the comment "these ******** always get away." The use of the word "these," is huge to my ears.

 

[iluvmua]

He continued to look for him and found him.

Otherwise, how do you explain they were in each other's presence in order for George to be attacked (according to him) and for Trayvon to get shot?

Are you saying that Trayvon then found GEORGE and followed him and jumped him...or found him in his car and pulled him out of it to start beating him?

Just confused about what you think happened.

There is no evidence that George found Trayvon.

TM was found 70 yards north of his destination.

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

This is what the Defense should be focusing on. The witnesses and the injuries.

 

[iluvmua]

Is there another 911 call (the first was NOT a 911 call, but a non emergency #) because in the non emergency call, he DID stand down. He stayed put and answered Shawn's questions. TIA!

Another 911 call from George? This is the only call from George if that is what you mean.



As far as I know, George only called the NEN once.

 

[Chelly]

Special thanks to Admin and Mods for opening this thread for us. I think the discussions here will be a challenge for all of you. Strong, emotional opinions have already been formed. I hope we all are respectful in spite of our disagreements. Thanks again!!!

 

[Chelly]

Very important to me is the comment "these ******** always get away." The use of the word "these," is huge to my ears.

Yes, ummm..I guess it's acceptable to say "profiling".

 

[Horace Finklestein]

bob kealing ‏@bobkealing 5m
Jurors show little emotion hearing fatal shot. Sybrina Fulton leaves courtroom before it is heard.

So they're allowing emotional displays from TM's family? Unbelievable. Seems quite unfair.

 

[Karmady]

Vinnie Politan ‏@VinniePolitan 3m
#TrayvonMartin mom leaves courtroom for the playing of #GeorgeZimmerman gun shot on 911 call

Prosecution strategy for the benefit of the jury, imo. She's heard it in open court before when the jury was not seated and not left the room.

 

[Marah]

Have we seen these pictures before?

 

[especiallyheather]

Another 911 call from George?

There are residents that are calling 911 but if you mean, is there another 911 call from George, no there is not.

As far as I know, George only called the NEN once.

So why are people saying he chased Trayvon? This is an honest question, because I clearly hear the NEN operator say "We do not need you to do that" (follow him) and George Zimmerman says "Okay" and continued to talk to the NEN about his location.

I'm confused on why people state as fact that he followed him? Where are they getting this information?

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

Yes, ummm..I guess it's acceptable to say "profiling".

I don't think of it that way.. To me "These" Is deliquents or kids that have been breaking in. Not a particular race. I don't see this as profiling. I see it as a statement of recent experiences.

 

[thefragile7393]

Yes, ummm..I guess it's acceptable to say "profiling".

The judge did rule the use of the word profiling would be acceptable as well. Only that word though, nothing added.

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[Reader]

Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 3m
West says Picture witness took showed #zimmerman injuries.

Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 4m
West shows jury picture a witness too of the back of #zimmerman's head.

Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 45s
West says #zimmerman appeared "out of breath" and "injured" to witnesses after they saw him following shot.

Tony Pipitone Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 6m
Defense has gone almost twice as long as state so far, with less than half the emotional appeal and narrative skill. Still, jurors watch.
Retweeted by Kyle Hightower

Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 5m
Says that same witness saw person on dark color top (West says it was #TrayvonMartin) "mounted" on top of #zimmerman.

Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 6m
West says one witness couldn't see faces during the fight, but could identify color if clothes of 2 people in a fight.

Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 11m
On screams West says only that jury will have to decide who the screams are. Doesn't say they are #zimmerman or #TrayvonMartin

Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 15m
Call also included the screams she says were #TrayvonMartin. #Zimmerman father says it was his son.

 

[thefragile7393]

I don't think of it that way.. To me "These" Is deliquents or kids that have been breaking in. Not a particular race. I don't see this as profiling. I see it as a statement of recent experiences.

Profiling does not have to be race related. Gender, age...assuming that someone of a certain age or gender causes trouble and should automatically be questioned. Not saying this is what happened here..but it isn't limited only to race or national origin.

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[corundogs]

There is no evidence that George found Trayvon.

TM was found 70 yards north of his destination.

I think Trayvon's dead body means that George found Trayvon!!!

Or again, are you saying that Trayvon found George...and jumped him?

 

[JeannaT]

To me, the screams sound like a young, not fully-developed voice. I don't believe that cry for help sounds like it came out of Zimmerman's diaphragm and vocal chords.

I don't think I've ever heard Trayvon's voice - but I've heard Zimmerman's. He's got a very soft voice - I could see him screaming in a very high-pitched way.

 

[Chelly]

I don't think of it that way.. To me "These" Is deliquents or kids that have been breaking in. Not a particular race. I don't see this as profiling. I see it as a statement of recent experiences.

I see your point. TY for pointing that out.

 

[lisalei321]

I can see I'll be lurking more than posting on this thread, but for the record, I think GZ should be found guilty on all counts.

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[ScarlettScarpetta]

Profiling does not have to be race related. Gender, age...assuming that someone of a certain age or gender causes trouble and should automatically be questioned. Not saying this is what happened here..but it isn't limited only to race or national origin.

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I agree but I think when you have had break ins and they have not been caught to me all he is saying is " The people that have been breaking in always get away.. " Nothing more.