George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin General discussion

[Beyond Belief]

George had a non working flashlight with him that night.

I don't understand what your saying. Key and flashlight found in a place other than where the death took place is what I am referring too.

 

[TigerBalm]

Any You Tube video of the opening or today's court? Was doing some other stuff...

http://www.youtube.com/user/croakerqueen123/videos

 

[raine1212]

OK guys pack your bags and move over.. I am getting ready to close this thread!

 

[Tricia]

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[raine1212]

Ok guys the queen of double posts today is going to bed... I will open the new thread in the morning.. Be nice to Tricia. Hugs

 

[polleypockets]

I don't understand what your saying. Key and flashlight found in a place other than where the death took place is what I am referring too.

what evidence, why are you being so cryptic - do you mean the honda key and little lite a few feet away or the big black flashlight GZ had w/ blood on it?? and what are you alluding to? either its real evidence w/ a link or another crazy blogs "theory"?

 

[Zuri]

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[Zuri]

This case seems to be a lightening rod with seemingly equally divided sides. I am not that familiar with this case and the details. I would like to know if lesser charges have been included in this case. Like manslaughter or something. TIA

 

[Tricia]

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[Schuby]

This case seems to be a lightening rod with seemingly equally divided sides. I am not that familiar with this case and the details. I would like to know if lesser charges have been included in this case. Like manslaughter or something. TIA

I've been wondering the same thing! From what I can tell, at this point, (obviously, subject to change over the course of the trial), a lesser charge seems more appropriate.

 

[polleypockets]

This case seems to be a lightening rod with seemingly equally divided sides. I am not that familiar with this case and the details. I would like to know if lesser charges have been included in this case. Like manslaughter or something. TIA

thats exactly what it is - its a little scary - and idk - imo, even though i have an opinion, on this case its seems so much evidence has been wrongly portrayed in the media - i am really going t watch the trial and see what the real evidence is in court

 

[polleypockets]

I've been wondering the same thing! From what I can tell, at this point, (obviously, subject to change over the course of the trial), a lesser charge seems more appropriate.

yes he has a lesser charge of manslaughter

 

[4Jacy]

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I also thank you Tricia. Hopefully you will notice how restrained I have been.

 

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[Apollo]

i dont think i could go as far as saying that GZ was out looking to kill - imo he was out trying to become some type of hero, trolling for ppl "he felt were suspicious" and was looking for trouble - bu that GZ wouldn't having any qualms about using his gun - thinking he could never get into trouble because he was on duty as neighborhood watch - imo he reminds me of the volunteer fireman starting fires so they can work as real fireman

either way - if GZ had followed common sense and the instructions of the dispatcher TM would be alive, that tm was profiled and chased and ultimatley murdered imo

Are you sure he was on duty that night? My understanding was that he was on his way to Target, was not on duty, and just happened to come across TM. Someone please correct me if I'm mistaken.

 

[TorisMom003]

I could see the manslaughter charge if George had not lied to LE during the walk through the day after he shot and killed Trayvon. However since he did lie repeatedly I feel that he knows he is guilty of something more serious and was trying to get out of any punishment at all.

MOO

 

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[TorisMom003]

Are you sure he was on duty that night? My understanding was that he was on his way to Target, was not on duty, and just happened to come across TM. Someone please correct me if I'm mistaken.

There are conflicting answers to that question and they come from George himself. At one point he said he was walking his "patrol" then later on claimed he was on his way to Target.

 

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[Chris_Texas]

Where are you getting that GZ was just itching to kill someone and was so bloodthirsty that he decided he's gonna find some kid tonight to go shoot?

Answer:

Zimmerman's description of TM during the 911 call was an almost line by line textbook recitation of an escalating threat and justification for the use of lethal force. He went right down the list, stating that there was "something wrong with him" and that the victim was "definately on drugs or something." He then described TM as having observed him, and that TM was circling him and checking him out. GZ then told dispatch that TM was reaching into his waistband for something, and then that he had pulled some unknown object from his waistband and was holding it in his hands and oh my goodness please send someone quickly...

In my opinion GZ wanted it on TAPE that he though TM was armed and dangerous. Note, after saying all this about the menacing guy with the unknown object in his hands, Zimmerman didn't step on the gas and drive away...

GZ opened the door of his car and got out to do whatever it was that he had planned. But Martin RAN away -- screwing up Zimmerman's "self-defense" checklist. I believe Martin was supposed to die right there in the street. That's what Zimmerman had planned. That's why Zimmerman was angry. Martin got away.

Note that little of what GZ described on the 911 call really happened in the way GZ described it. Even by the time of the walkthrough the detectives knew the 911 story was questionable, and when questioned on it Zimmerman had no answers. Today we have an even better idea what Martin was doing because we have a witness. We know he wasn't an armed and menacing , he was a kid with skittles talking to his girlfriend on the phone and trying to get away from the weird dude in the pickup following him around.

In my opinion Zimmerman wanted to shoot someone that night. He was thinking about this long before he ever called 911. The prosecution knows it. The police know it. Sadly, the most they will be able to PROVE is murder two.