Found Alive Germany - Maria-Brigitte Henselmann, 13, Freiburg, 4 May 2013

  • #141
Funny though the dog wasn't mentioned by any of the witnesses. Maybe they sold him.

Ive had no computer for a few days ... :facepalm:

He has done something with the dog, but not seeing the dog at the show makes sense - it would be a give away, and I'm not sure dogs would be allowed where they've been seen - it makes me think there is another person involved in this - maybe another couple or a person with a similar mindset.

They seem very sure of themselves to be out in a public place if it was them.
I hope the Police sorts out if it was them or not quickly.

Thanks for the new updates and links everyone.
 
  • #142
Funny though the dog wasn't mentioned by any of the witnesses. Maybe they sold him.

Was wondering about that to.Do you know by any chance if the dog is chipped ?
Mostly when you sell a dog you need a passport for the dog,in there all the registration like chipnumber (registrationnumber) and all vaccinations
 
  • #143
Finally - Maria has a page on INTERPOL...

Link here: INTERPOL MISSING PERSON Maria Henselmann

There is a new picture of Maria on Bitte Findet Maria that Marias mother has posted to help find Maria: Its good to see another clearer photo of Maria too!
(if this is not appropriate here mods please remove)

The link to the photo is here:
Another Photo of Maria
 

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  • #144
Was wondering about that to.Do you know by any chance if the dog is chipped ?
Mostly when you sell a dog you need a passport for the dog,in there all the registration like chipnumber (registrationnumber) and all vaccinations

I haven't seen any information really about the dog, but I think dogs of such a good pedigree and if they are show/breed dogs have to be vaccinated and I'm not sure, but you'd think they would have to be microchipped.
 
  • #145
GEZOCHT.jpgDidn't had much time the last week but uploaded the picture on social media>
Let's hope they will be found safe
 
  • #146
Was wondering about that to.Do you know by any chance if the dog is chipped ?
Mostly when you sell a dog you need a passport for the dog,in there all the registration like chipnumber (registrationnumber) and all vaccinations

I have a dog I have taken it all over Europe. For certain the dog, being such a high pedigree, will be chipped, registered and have a mass of documentation. Maybe a tattoo as well (this is done in France)

This has worried me now. If the dog went to any official re-homing center, they would have checked the chip and found the name and address Haase registered the animal to and contacted him. There are family still in the family home to answer calls, I think?

Is there a third person involved here? Someone who is looking after Haase's dog and possibly is in contact with him? Or has Haase just abandoned the dog, or something worse? I hope not.
 
  • #147
Finally - Maria has a page on INTERPOL...

Link here: INTERPOL MISSING PERSON Maria Henselmann

There is a new picture of Maria on Bitte Findet Maria that Marias mother has posted to help find Maria: Its good to see another clearer photo of Maria too!
(if this is not appropriate here mods please remove)

The link to the photo is here:
Another Photo of Maria

I cannot get over how much older she looks than her age. Poor girl . She probably thinks it's great to look older and get lots of attention from the boys but this time it's gone too far. :(

ETA and THIS A$$$$$$HAT is not a boy .
 
  • #148
I cannot get over how much older she looks than her age. Poor girl . She probably thinks it's great to look older and get lots of attention from the boys but this time it's gone too far. :(

ETA and THIS A$$$$$$HAT is not a boy .

It can be a downfall to some girls in my daughters class are taller and look older,one mom told me that they expect more from kids who look older than they are..
Beside that you never know who is on the other side when you in a chatroom or on the net.
Seems like he is isolating her and on her age you are easy influenced.
Hope that they will catch this 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬.
 
  • #149
It can be a downfall to some girls in my daughters class are taller and look older,one mom told me that they expect more from kids who look older than they are..
Beside that you never know who is on the other side when you in a chatroom or on the net.
Seems like he is isolating her and on her age you are easy influenced.
Hope that they will catch this 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬.

Of course he is isolating her. Otherwise he'll end up in jail. Probably end up anyway.
 
  • #150
I cannot get over how much older she looks than her age. Poor girl . She probably thinks it's great to look older and get lots of attention from the boys but this time it's gone too far. :(

ETA and THIS A$$$$$$HAT is not a boy .

Yes, that particular photo of Maria that Interpol uses is probably not the best one to use for her - its the same photo used in most of the fliers. Maria's mother posted another photo recently (I thumbnailed it in an above post) which shows her without makeup on and she does look different - and younger - even the part in her hair is on the other side - this can sometimes make a huge difference recognizing someone as well.

Let her contact her family Bernhard!!
I hope you are home soon Maria.
 
  • #151
Nothing new ?
 
  • #152
Schmae, I just read through the lastest fb post and all the comments - no, nothing new. :(
 
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  • #154
Grrr. I hate this sick *****! I'm sure she is thinking she's in some wonderful , romantic fantasy . Grown men acting like 12 yr olds...... There is nothing more depraved than a child predator. Nothing period !

ETA How are the laws in Germany pertaining to child predators ? Will this man be locked up a good while and will the other prisoners be cruel to him for preying on babies ?
 
  • #155
source: Bloomberg 30th May 2013
The police reports that the Blomberg Bernhard Haase (53), which is the 13-year-old from Freiburg Maria Brigitte Henselmann on the run, staying in Bern, is not confirmed. Supposedly had seen the couple in Switzerland reader reporters.

300 pieces of information to sort through but none confirmed as yet...

I would think they are under the radar now...
Lets hope something happens to surface them and someone recognizes them.
 
  • #156
I found this a very poignant post on the Please find Maria wordpress blog - as much as I could translate it, they seem to have faced a few difficulties in posting some of the flyers - some take them, some don't. The good advice of never giving up the search, but making sure that those concerned for Maria also look after themselves too... but the feeling that finding Maria may take longer than first thought.

Strength to the family and friends.

Eckhard Kretschmer
Technical co-supervision of the facebook group please find maria and the website


Swallowed by the Earth
4 weeks Maria has now disappeared.

Swallowed by the earth.

- A girl of 13 years
- a former politician with a sexual interest in underage girls
- A Skoda LIP Features
- A white shepherd

Absolutely invisible. For days. For weeks.

And, although the a public facing, a search party of almost 20,000 Facebook members, countless people who have seen the posters, print them for free, distributed nationwide, have translated into 21 languages.

I had assumed, and hoped, after a few days the search was successful.

I admit that I was wrong.

Many of us ask now firmly: This one could take significantly longer.

There again today - ABSOLUTELY NOT NEW.

Many of us give full throttle, the pedal through until the needle on the speedometer shoots edge. That may work in the short term. But it destroys the engine that drives us if we let this become a permanent condition.

My request today: Please go on the assumption that what we do here, may still 2-3-4 could last another month. Divides your strength! Not Prompts you! Pauses. Limit you from inside once for a short time! Between doing things with your friends, doing sport, enjoy a concert, a sporting event, look, sitting next to many computers or is a pet that has been neglected in recent days if necessary, sleep enough!

For all those who help here, this is an exceptional situation in the intensive they were never before.
, the thoughts that you do here inevitably, are brutal, deep, dark, and thereby closer than any film you've ever seen.

The projects that will be implemented here, in front and behind the scenes, the setbacks that we suffer because we get rejections, even when we are fighting for a good cause, but because we just wanted to hang a flyer in a bank, but almost are already thrown out, because we had planned to distribute flyers, and then the logistics has made us a spanner in the works, and the Flyers are not there because we were looking for a sponsor for something special, our labor of love, and so far only conceded to cancel, everything that costs us, we were not prepared for such a search operation, a lot of strength, and pushes us down mercilessly.

Please! Listen into you! Checks honest, how much you can carry and bear! And watch for you!

I've never seen that in 4 weeks so many people who do not know each other before, have formed such an intense community of fate, are moved closer together, and have thus gathered together behind a common goal, as we experience here to date.

I wish all of you and that no one should go broke because of us!

Watch Yourself! And keep an eye on your network neighbors! Listen to them! Supports the fall! And if you fall, be sure to not fall silent and alone, because we have noted here: No one is here alone when he falls! Hold you firmly together!

Mary, you have people zusammgengebracht! Now we bring you and your family back together!

Even though it takes! We will not give up here!

Someone must know where they are...
 
  • #157
Biggest question and worry in my mind now is that can Bernhard physically hurt Maria? I mean is he a person that could do an act of violence or is he a kind person by nature? I wish someone could give some light to that.
 
  • #158
I really don't like the way there has been so little information released about Haase. I wonder if there could be something in his background or history that's important?

I'm also very worried about the way he has been so reckless - he has thrown away his marriage, his career, his name, his home.......and now he has a 13-year-old girl in his 'care'. She needs to be found soon.

Here is a link for online TV covering Freiburg news - not sure if it can also be viewed in the US. I think the last news they ran about Maria was about May 15th though. :(
http://www.tv-suedbaden.de/TV/Mediathek/Suedbaden-Aktuell/Seite/

This non-profit for children is highlighting Maria's case, so that's good news.
https://www.facebook.com/ECPATgermany

There is a flooding in a lot of areas of areas of Germany at the moment and many emergency services are at full stretch. I am afraid news about Maria may be getting pushed to the back - or maybe there just isn't any further news.

Her Mom's fb and online campaign seems to be spreading fast though.
 
  • #159
Just got the update from the fb page that they are gonna merge the page with the other existing page to find Maria.

So the Facebook page "Bitte Findet Maria" will now be continued on https://www.facebook.com/groups/mariasuche/ and http://www.mariasuche.wordpress.com/ .

"Bitte Findet Maria" will be discontinued.

Biggest question and worry in my mind now is that can Bernhard physically hurt Maria? I mean is he a person that could do an act of violence or is he a kind person by nature? I wish someone could give some light to that.

I wondered that too and my initial feeling was that he's just a lonely, sad man who wants to feel young again, probably experiencing a midlife crisis, but otherwise harmless. However, after hearing gruesome details abbout the murderer of April Jones (case also here on WS) I have started to mistrust my initial impressions of people purely based on photos. April's murderer never looked threatening to me, I doubted he could be capable of such a heinous crime, and yet he is guilty. :(

Let's hope Haase is a better man!
 
  • #160
I think the attitude that is frustrating some of us may actually help ensure Maria's safety, in a strange way. Maria's case does not seem to have been treated so seriously because she went 'willingly' with Haase.

I have my own opinion about that, but if those sightings in Berne are correct, he obviously feels relaxed enough to appear in public with her. That gives me hope he will not do anything stupid.

I'm certain he is aware a huge search for them is going on now though. What can his plan be?
 

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