Germany Germany - Rebecca Reusch, 15, Berlin, 18 Feb 2019 *Arrest*

[worldwatcher]

I just reread some articles and thought that the secured garment was found in a clothes container, but according to bz-berliner it was found close by
"Behind the Gropius passages(mall) , the officers open a used clothes container and dig in the garbage. Nearby, on the Wermuthweg, policemen are securing a piece of clothing. Whether this is things from Rebecca, the police does not say for tactical reasons"/ "Hinter den Gropius-Passagen öffnen die Beamten einen Altkleider-Container und wühlen im Müll. Ganz in der Nähe, am Wermuthweg, stellen Polizisten ein Kleidungsstück sicher. Ob es sich dabei um Sachen von Rebecca handelt, sagt die Polizei aus ermittlungstaktischen Gründen nicht"
Polizei stellt bei Suche nach Rebecca Kleidungsstück sicher

 

[houndpounder]

Everyone is looking toward the brother in law, perhaps she stayed at her sister's house because with their work schedules, she would have boyfriends over to the house. Insisting the brother in law was probably 2 sheets to the wind when he came home from an office party may be out of the question. Through German translation, he may have worked in the catering hall business/hotel and returned from working at a late night party, after the party most likely he had to stay and clean up. That would be translated in English as a "work party". Her phone turned on around 6AM maybe when she first woke up maybe someone came to house, she left with him or that person drugged her and took her from the house in the blanket (When the brother in law was sleeping). Then turned her phone off after 8:30AM, She could have purchased a second trac phone that no one knew she had because her parents monitored her regular phone.

No evidence in the house, so nothing happened to her there.

If the parents are vouching for the brother in law that is very telling. I have had past brother in laws that I wouldn't put past them to make passes at some of my younger sisters, and now have stellar brother - in - laws that I would vouch for and know they would never do anything like that.

 

[worldwatcher]

According to the expert, the police have so far acted unusually: "The search came late - the day after the arrest, the provisional arrest came late, hours before you want to substantiate the urgent suspicion before the magistrate. This is unusual and surprising," says the expert.

I do think that the sisters house was searched... or inspected (instead of searched) sooner, then a day after BILs arrest..
At least... if I didn't screw up the dates on the articles,or reading too much into it. Here it mentioned in a Belgium MSM

• 28 februari 2019
• 18u03

(Orginal text)" Er vond ook een huiszoeking plaats in het appartement van Jessica en het huis van de ouders. /
There was also a house search in the apartment of Jessica and the house of the parents"
If I am not mistaken.. his arrest was on the same day as this article was published?
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Also I wonder if RRs mother/family knew, how late Rebecca should be at school, seems to me that she thought school started at 8AM instead of around 9.50.
Maybe Rebecca knew already that school started later, that Monday.
Here in The Netherlands school schedule are mostly digital, like (for example) magister and when some lessons are canceled, you can see that when logged inn.

 

[Elainera]

The search for the missing Rebecca from Berlin is also on the weekend at full speed. The 27-year-old brother-in-law of the student in whose house she had spent the night before her disappearance, continues to be the main suspect, said a police spokesman on Saturday.

Polizei verdächtigt immer noch Rebeccas Schwager

 

[otto]

I do think that the sisters house was searched... or inspected (instead of searched) sooner, then a day after BILs arrest..
At least... if I didn't screw up the dates on the articles,or reading too much into it. Here it mentioned in a Belgium MSM

• 28 februari 2019
• 18u03

(Orginal text)" Er vond ook een huiszoeking plaats in het appartement van Jessica en het huis van de ouders. /
There was also a house search in the apartment of Jessica and the house of the parents"
If I am not mistaken.. his arrest was on the same day as this article was published?
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Also I wonder if RRs mother/family knew, how late Rebecca should be at school, seems to me that she thought school started at 8AM instead of around 9.50.
Maybe Rebecca knew already that school started later, that Monday.
Here in The Netherlands school schedule are mostly digital, like (for example) magister and when some lessons are canceled, you can see that when logged inn.

In terms of narrowing down the timeline when something most likely happened, can it be said that she was at her sister's house and actively using social media until 8AM? This is based on this statement:

Original

"Verschiedenen unbestätigten Berichten zufolge soll Rebeccas Handy aber nach Erkenntnissen der Polizei von 6 bis 8 Uhr im WLAN-Router eingeloggt gewesen sein - über WhatsApp sollen an ihren Handy auch noch Nachrichten geschrieben worden sein."​

Translation

"According to various unconfirmed reports, Rebecca's cell phone is said to have been logged into the WLAN router [at her sister's house] from 6 am to 8 am - WhatsApp is said to have [connected with or] written messages on her cell phone [at that time]."​

Schwager ist wieder auf freiem Fuß: Polizei hält vermisste Rebecca Reusch für tot - Berlin - Tagesspiegel

The brother in law has said that Rebecca was gone at 8:30.

Based on this information, something happened to her between 8 and 8:30AM, at the same time that the only other person in the house was the brother-in-law. I think that opens up several possibilities:

• she left voluntarily very early for school (parents say she did not typically go early) and took her blanket and school supplies with her - perhaps related to the WhatsApp messages
• her brother-in-law did something to her and disappeared her body during the day, although he had no way of knowing that the school would not alert her parents to her absence
• someone entered the house and took her between 8 - 8:30AM

 

[Elainera]

How many rooms does this house have? Could it be that she was in another part of the house when BIL went into the living room to wake her? Maybe in the bath? Maybe he then thought she had already left and went back to sleep. Rebecca then left at a later point in time. Possible?

 

[Jim_M]

How many rooms does this house have? Could it be that she was in another part of the house when BIL went into the living room to wake her? Maybe in the bath? Maybe he then thought she had already left and went back to sleep. Rebecca then left at a later point in time. Possible?

We don’t know who she was communicating with on her WhatsApp. We might not find out either.

We don’t know what the taking of the blanket means. Again we may not find out.

Was she willing to ditch school? Did anyone ask that of the family?

Was she ever in the habit of turning off her phone? Another question for the family.

Has there been anything released about the clothing that LE found?

We have hope that RR is safe. Somewhere.

 

[otto]

How many rooms does this house have? Could it be that she was in another part of the house when BIL went into the living room to wake her? Maybe in the bath? Maybe he then thought she had already left and went back to sleep. Rebecca then left at a later point in time. Possible?

That brings up another question. If her phone was disconnected from the WLAN router at the house at 8AM, was her phone connected to another router, or is there a translation issue such that the message was sent at 8:30AM but not received by her phone? It sounds like the WhatsApp message from her mother at 8:30 was either not read, or not received.

If she was in the bath, I would expect that she would check her phone right after the bath. That apparently did not happen. The last activity on her phone seems to be at 8AM.

Original

"Knapp eine Stunde später, gegen 8.30 Uhr schrieb Brigitte Reusch, die Mutter der beiden Frauen, ihrer Tochter offenbar eine Whatsapp-Nachricht. Obwohl die Nachricht zu diesem Zeitpunkt auf Rebeccas Handy zugestellt wurde, las die 15-Jährige die Nachricht offenbar nicht mehr."​

Translation

"Less than an hour later, at 8.30 AM Brigitte Reusch, the mother of the two women, sent her daughter a Whatsapp message. Although the message was delivered to Rebecca's cell phone at this time, the 15-year-old did not read the message."​

Berlin: Rebecca Reusch (15) vermisst: Offenbar Spuren im Haus der Schwester gefunden | Deutschland

 

[Elainera]

That brings up another question. If her phone was disconnected from the WLAN router at the house at 8AM, was her phone connected to another router, or is there a translation issue such that the message was sent at 8:30AM but not received by her phone? It sounds like the WhatsApp message from her mother at 8:30 was either not read, or not received.

According to the quote you posted it was received but not read. The translation is correct.

 

[houndpounder]

If the brother-in-law took her in his car someone would see the car gone or he would be on CCTV cameras, if he was on foot even more obvious.

Maybe they brought the brother-in-law in to rule him out, that would be the starting point in a case like this. Everyone is under suspect.

 

[worldwatcher]

someone entered the house and took her between 8 - 8:30AM

If someone entered the house and took her,it does seem unlikely (to me) that she would take her school stuff also <there would be not much time & risky to leave unnoticed>

 

[otto]

That brings us back to it being likely that she left on her own with her blanket and school bag between 8 and 8:30AM - although no one saw her on the bus or anywhere else that morning, or the brother in law has hidden her body somewhere around the house or within walking distance of the house.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

The question that nags me today is, when was Rebecca last seen or spoken to by people other than sis and BIL?

In one article her friends said she was not as communicative as usual on Sunday, so that made me wonder ...

I'm sure LE is looking into this as well.

This question is nagging me, as well...

sure wish we know the events of Sunday and into the night...

 

[worldwatcher]

View attachment 171161 View attachment 171162 I made some screenshots of the video that I am watching as I type.
Her mother says that she did send an app to Rebecca asking her to get ready for school. Rebecca replied that she would get ready later.
Her mother also states that normally the school would call when they notice when someone isn't present. She didn't heard anything so she assument that her daughter was at school.
The search dogs did track Rebecca's smell at the bus stop, after that the search dogs lost her track.
The rest of the video is about the search her family and friends started on social media and putting up flyers.
Video can be viewed here:
#findbecci: Freunde suchen verzweifelt vermisste Rebecca Reusch aus Berlin

I dont know around what time that was and if thats said in the video but, maybe can someone check what excalty RRs mother said about the Whats App messages between them,that morning? (Slow tablet and the video freezes,atm) R. replied 'will get ready later for school'
TIA

 

[Dre]

I feel that the BIL strangled her and brought her out of the house immediately or that he brought her to another location and her death happened there. Either way there would likely be no outstanding evidence in the house or car and no evidence for cadaver dogs to hit in either place. I believe circumstancial evidence is strong just not quite enough to keep him.

 

[otto]

"The third murder commission then asks: who saw Rebecca Reusch on the morning of 18 February 2019 in the area between Maurerweg and Fritz-Erler Allee? Who else has seen or been in contact with you after February 18, 2019?"

Berlin: Rebecca Reusch is missing (15): brother-in-law in freedom – is the student dead?

It was 4 days before there were real searches. Isn't it also possible that the brother-in-law moved Rebecca out of the house on the night between Feb 18 and 19?

 

[otto]

I dont know around what time that was and if thats said in the video but, maybe can someone check what excalty RRs mother said about the Whats App messages between them,that morning? (Slow tablet and the video freezes,atm) R. replied 'will get ready later for school'
TIA

Isn't there just one WhatsApp message from the mother to Rebecca at 8:30AM, and that message signals that it was not seen by Rebecca (one check mark rather than two next to the message)?

Is this new information from the WhatsApp account clarifying that there was a response from Rebecca's phone to the 8:30AM message?

 

[otto]

I dont know around what time that was and if thats said in the video but, maybe can someone check what excalty RRs mother said about the Whats App messages between them,that morning? (Slow tablet and the video freezes,atm) R. replied 'will get ready later for school'
TIA

From the screen shot we can see that she definitely did not respond to a message at 8:42, so that is one definite time in terms of knowing that something was wrong.

 

[Elainera]

Isn't there just one WhatsApp message from the mother to Rebecca at 8:30AM, and that message signals that it was not seen by Rebecca (one check mark rather than two next to the message)?

Just to clarify how WhatsApp works:
One grey checkmark - message was sent but hasn't been received yet by the other person's phone
Two grey checkmarks - message was received by the other's phone but hasn't been read yet
Two blue checkmarks - the other person has read the message

 

[worldwatcher]

Isn't there just one WhatsApp message from the mother to Rebecca at 8:30AM, and that message signals that it was not seen by Rebecca (one check mark rather than two next to the message)?

Is this new information from the WhatsApp account clarifying that there was a response from Rebecca's phone to the 8:30AM message?

No sorry,don't think so,..I did listen and watch it again the video but I do think I misunderstood it...kinda inaudible to me If I hear it now correctly,her mom asked someone else (must be her other daugher) to check on Rebecca and she said: 'I do that later" Its not very clear to me to whom it was said..

Also I do think that the message on 8.42 didn't reach RRs mobile (on Febr.18th) but was recieved later when LE used a second simcard to get into her Whats App...