Germany - Truck crashes into Christmas market in Berlin, 9 dead, 19 Dec 2016

[Elley Mae]

CCTV footage released by the broadcaster RBB appears to show Amri outside a mosque in Moabit on the night after the attack, as well as a few days earlier, on 14 and 15 December.


bbm

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...s-amri-believed-still-in-city-injuries-mosque

 

[CARIIS]

Here is info about the place he set afire

.Bolding/color not me!

The fires were allegedly lit deliberately by Tunisian MUSLIMS protesting against their imminent return home, having been ruled to be economic migrants rather than bona fide asylum seekers.

the fires blazed out of control and destroyed three buildings in the complex.

Lampedusa immigrant reception center, officially Reception Center (CDA) of Lampedusa, has been operating since 1998, when the Italian island of Lampedusa became a primary European entry point for immigrants from Africa.[SUP][1][/SUP] The reception center's capacity of 801 people has been greatly exceeded by numerous boat people arriving from various parts of Africa.[SUP][2]

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[/SUP]

http://www.barenakedislam.com/2011/...tting-the-immigrant-centre-on-fire-yesterday/

 

[CARIIS]

CCTV footage released by the broadcaster RBB appears to show Amri outside a mosque in Moabit on the night after the attack, as well as a few days earlier, on 14 and 15 December.


bbm

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...s-amri-believed-still-in-city-injuries-mosque

From link !

[FONT=&amp]Police believe Anis Amri’s injuries mean he will not risk travelling far

[/FONT][FONT=&quot]mosque on Perleberger Strasse is a 15-minute walk from the site of Thyssenkrupp, where Polish truck driver Łukasz Urban was due to drop off his cargo on Monday.

[/FONT][FONT=&quot] footage obtained by RBB suggests Amri had not slipped off the security services’ radar as previously assumed, but in fact was able to prepare Monday’s attacks under the noses of investigators.[/FONT]

 

[CARIIS]

I suspect he had help, probably from someone in the mosque, or who ever he was waiting for while standing outside the mosque.

It seems like he was widely "connected" with bad guys

its good he is gone, but for some reason the notion of feeling safe over there would, in reality seem to be elusive.

He's travelling etc etc yet we have no legal income stream at all for a long time.

I do not know layout -if someone does great.

Throughout all this - starting an hour before the 18 wheeler was taken - are all (i mean all - like after the attack to where he was seen - getting to train stations in other countries etc etc) are these walking things, or are we saying he had a car all along

or ....

HAS HAD HELP from quite a variety of folks in
three countries?

Out of all of these of late , IMO, this one seems the least lone wolf of any of them.

Not the actual hijacking maybe but logistically this guy had to get to where the truck was , get out of area, be somewhere, move to get to transportation hubs, had to sleep eat somewhere for 4 days- and is found with money in his pocket?

Anyone have rough idea how much his train segments would cost (roughly?)

Looking at the big pic IMO, this has potential to be far from over.

Some media folks have claimed that the whole thing might have been revenge for arresting the preacher guy the month earlier. This resonated for me - cause by all reports since that day he did go into hiding until the attack. Almost feels as if that was like his final straw.

If we follow that logic , with these nice folks, now you have killed (instead of incarcerate) one of "ours"...

If jailing someone possibly triggers mauling over human beings with an 18 wheeler - what does murdering (I shall assume that is their version) result in??

 

[ZaZara]

Picture her of the p o chit dead. warning he is not covered.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...Berlin-lorry-attack-suspect-seen-Aalborg.html

World's most wanted man is dead: Rookie Italian policeman guns down fugitive Berlin killer screaming 'Allahu Akbar' after he shoots his fellow officer when they confront him in Milan as the Tunisian's ISIS video is revealed

Vintage Daily Mail!

IMHO he was on his way to a greater target and he did not plan to end it near a railway station in this unspectacular way.

I'd say: maybe even Rome, the Vatican and Christmas.

 

[Elley Mae]

I do believe the mosque he had been at should be shut down, iiread correctly it is a known hotbed for terrorist. jmo

 

[CARIIS]

Caution rant impending!!

I just think we have to accept that we really have no control over this -- we cant control cancer it's identical. Its out of control, not gonna stop and as a society we are powerless

just the truth.

The next 10 days seem more foreboding, cause there have been so many in a cluster, different methods, BUT in the publications they do , the next two days are more private, New Years is crowd gathering and that is what they are wanting.

But the Christian angle might incite more - I dont know , nobody does

I have always felt this way the last 5 years , sticking a bunch of LE walking around with really ugly guns is a complete joke.

New years it a bunch of drunk people, with loud music , be vigilant, (hey back in my day I was stumbling happily about!) but this nonsense of be vigilant blasted out of your mind, I could not find the bathroom, and now all these people are supposed to be vigilant nonsense!!

I know this from airplane disasters, putting up those stupid barricades - even if they could prevent an 18 wheeler from getting into the space, the impact and destruction of the vehicle and all the shrapnel will kill injure many .

Like Paris at the stadium, when they could not get in, they blew themselves up outside.

Maybe the answer is divert all that money world wide, from paying overtime for a bunch of dudes carrying ugly weapons around ought to be diverted to PREVENTING, as opposed to AFTERWARDS having a bunch of folks strolling around for 4 days with big guns

IMO all this stuff about closing borders -- guys its too late poof all closed- too many already all around. We have lost control and the reality is this is our reality, and we are powerless.

We all know copy cat stuff. ***** we have reverted to hijacking (IRA stuff) in the last 24 hours.

And I do think, on this guy, he is a real deviant, deviants hang with others deviants, he was able to transverse much territory.

He was able to conceal himself.

, He had ideology support, he had financial support, he had cover, over three countries. Means much. IMO. Scary.

Their big guns with an 18 wheeler , I am lost at the benefit? There big guns with a suicide bomber well?

IMO the money needs to be diverted to prevent,

None of this is good.

But heck we have each other for support , in the next 10 days - best we can really do - huh?

 

[CARIIS]

World's most wanted man is dead: Rookie Italian policeman guns down fugitive Berlin killer screaming 'Allahu Akbar' after he shoots his fellow officer when they confront him in Milan as the Tunisian's ISIS video is revealed

Vintage Daily Mail!

IMHO he was on his way to a greater target and he did not plan to end it near a railway station in this unspectacular way.

I'd say: maybe even Rome, the Vatican and Christmas.

I do not understand. Unless he was waiting for a ride, why would be , most wanted person on the planet ,be there?

Much confusion- was he in a car? Well, dont be on a main drag. And just my opinion, I thing all the mosques (black and white pics) is all convoluted.

Days before, right afterwards, it has been reported all over the place.

Either way , if I was the most wanted person I would not be standing in front of a closed transportation hub, or parked in a car in the same way.

Meet me in a dark ally.

The rapid pulling of his gun -- suicide by cop?

His family made it clear not ok.

Angry - does not matter what youf stuff is -- the sounds of smushing people is traumatic for any human being.

It is gross

Seeing blood splattering all over the place, faces screaming in anguish, terrorist or whatever -- I think he was (deviant) fine with trying to see if he could get away, but when the gig was over , let them kill me.

Who would expect starting to shoot at twocops iss not gonna result in you being killed ?

I think it was like ha I am smart I will dodge, but when that failed, I would rather be dead.

My brothers have rejected me........................

 

[LaborDayRN]

I'm so very thankful that this criminal has been located and can no longer hurt innocent people.

 

[Inthedetails]

"Hero Cosmetologist cuts hair correctly"

That gave me a true LOL, Cariis!

 

[CARIIS]

I'm so very thankful that this criminal has been located and can no longer hurt innocent people.

Me too, but it is too simple an answer- he obviously had a lot of support that was about three nations,

This is far from over IMO

He is not a lone wolf, IMO, he is a wildly connected bad boy

 

[CARIIS]

That gave me a true LOL, Cariis!

TY we do need a dash of levity how it works on this end is absurdity just floods me

but I do laugh out loud when it comes across my little brain - cause it is funny though and instant!

But it is authentic observations , there is no thinking - fleeing thoughts!



world is nuts

Hey laugh cry?

I do end amusing myself with how fast my little brain goes - it is not thought out stuff- it flies across my little brain - but it is funny stuff

and hey they are funny (sad) observations.........

 

[ZaZara]

MOBLIE PHONE OF AMRI FOUND IN TRUCK

Spiegel.de
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deuts...errorverdaechtigem-amri-sicher-a-1127408.html

In addition to the wallet, the police also found the mobile phone of the alleged Berlin assassin Anis Amri. According to information received by SPIEGEL, a mobile phone of the brand HTC was secured on the truck, which was driven into a Christmas market at the Breitscheidplatz in Berlin on Monday evening. The phone allegedly belongs to Amri.

Evidently, just like Amri's wallet, the evidence was only found many hours after the attack, during a new search of the truck by the crime scene unit in a hall on the grounds of the Julius-Leber-Kaserne in Berlin.

The late find, it is said in Berlin police circles, is due to the "meticulous way of investigating the crime scene". The team was working according to the principle of thoroughness before speed. The evaluation of the mobile phone by forensic specialists, SPIEGEL learned from security circles, is currently running on high-speed.

The mobile phone of the murdered Polish truck driver has also been secured according to SPIEGEL information. Witnesses had found the device near the scene of the crime and handed it over to the police.


BBM


Just don't ask why it took so long. The answer remains German Gründlichkeit. Btw, this could well mean that the forensics noticed the phone hours before they actually lifted it, but like true archaeologists tiptoeing around a pyramid, they first secured layer for layer all other traces.

:thinking:

 

[Elley Mae]

MOBLIE PHONE OF AMRI FOUND IN TRUCK

Spiegel.de
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deuts...errorverdaechtigem-amri-sicher-a-1127408.html

In addition to the wallet, the police also found the mobile phone of the alleged Berlin assassin Anis Amri. According to information received by SPIEGEL, a mobile phone of the brand HTC was secured on the truck, which was driven into a Christmas market at the Breitscheidplatz in Berlin on Monday evening. The phone allegedly belongs to Amri.

Evidently, just like Amri's wallet, the evidence was only found many hours after the attack, during a new search of the truck by the crime scene unit in a hall on the grounds of the Julius-Leber-Kaserne in Berlin.

The late find, it is said in Berlin police circles, is due to the "meticulous way of investigating the crime scene". The team was working according to the principle of thoroughness before speed. The evaluation of the mobile phone by forensic specialists, SPIEGEL learned from security circles, is currently running on high-speed.

The mobile phone of the murdered Polish truck driver has also been secured according to SPIEGEL information. Witnesses had found the device near the scene of the crime and handed it over to the police.


BBM


Just don't ask why it took so long. The answer remains German Gründlichkeit. Btw, this could well mean that the forensics noticed the phone hours before they actually lifted it, but like true archaeologists tiptoeing around a pyramid, they first secured layer for layer all other traces.

:thinking:

In the photo of him outside the mosque on the 14th he is on a phone, in the photo on the 15th he is not, but he is holding a bag.

 

[Elley Mae]

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Per...x1070dac9e29eb09c!2m2!1d13.335082!2d52.504818



11-12 minute drive.

 

[CARIIS]

MOBLIE PHONE OF AMRI FOUND IN TRUCK

Spiegel.de
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deuts...errorverdaechtigem-amri-sicher-a-1127408.html

In addition to the wallet, the police also found the mobile phone of the alleged Berlin assassin Anis Amri. According to information received by SPIEGEL, a mobile phone of the brand HTC was secured on the truck, which was driven into a Christmas market at the Breitscheidplatz in Berlin on Monday evening. The phone allegedly belongs to Amri.

Evidently, just like Amri's wallet, the evidence was only found many hours after the attack, during a new search of the truck by the crime scene unit in a hall on the grounds of the Julius-Leber-Kaserne in Berlin.

The late find, it is said in Berlin police circles, is due to the "meticulous way of investigating the crime scene". The team was working according to the principle of thoroughness before speed. The evaluation of the mobile phone by forensic specialists, SPIEGEL learned from security circles, is currently running on high-speed.

The mobile phone of the murdered Polish truck driver has also been secured according to SPIEGEL information. Witnesses had found the device near the scene of the crime and handed it over to the police.


BBM


Just don't ask why it took so long. The answer remains German Gründlichkeit. Btw, this could well mean that the forensics noticed the phone hours before they actually lifted it, but like true archaeologists tiptoeing around a pyramid, they first secured layer for layer all other traces.

:thinking:

Funny as I reading your post (which are great) then I get to your add on.

So I am not asking! BUT Imo if this is not translation stuff this is stinky stinky. A cell phone these days could give you much more info that a a smashed up cab of an 18 wheeler.

A trained pro with some gloves and a flat screwdriver,................

Personally I would prefer them saying we have chosen not to release this until now but Mr/Mrs investigators lease dont tell us you chose to leave his cell phone there for close to a week cause you did not want to disturb the crime scene.

They are becoming like a third world country as far as this tradegy goes - jeezzzzzzzzzzzzz

 

[CARIIS]

Amri arrived in Italy from France, according to anti-terrorism Digos police. He went from Chambery to Turin and then took a train to Milan, where he arrived at around 1:00. Then he went from Milan's Stazione Centrale to Sesto San Giovanni, where he ran into two police officers at aorund 4:00 and was killed in a shoot-out and they tried to conduct a routine stop-check

Is this a lot of traveling??


I really beleive he did not get reported as being seen somewhere in all this time was cause the pics released look nothing like he did the last week moo

Please do not tell the world next week that you released wrong pics of him this week/. In all the pics he looked average y. In the video, black and white pics, and even dead on the street decent looking.

Its all been so messed up- in Germany they all had better be careful, seems as if terrorists would chose there cause of the lack of competency displayed this week.

There has been a Columbo feel to this (remember the show?)

Now that he is dead it seems that blunders are being felt more cause the danger, at least from him, is over.

This is almost feeling like a count down- lets just get to the 26th for now. Yes my dear Dotr this is all your fault !!

Maybe all the stuff located last nighy has been there every year this time of year, but it sure "feels" like all this is jacked up the last two weeks.

I do think we know the coy cat stuff is real. This morning I wondering if that is why he picked that day, instead of the 25, to get others marinating.

The "taking" the truck just seems as if it makes it like look how easy (compared to Nice) this can be.



http://www.ansa.it/english/news/2016/12/23/berlin-suspect-amri-killed-near-milan-4_a70c1a51-93d1-4708-923e-348d1fd0df7f.htmlWhen is the last time we had ,even, a hijacking??


moo

 

[CARIIS]

OT

But oh, Carrie Fisher had a heart attack on a plane and it does not look. Her biggest deal was Star Wars but I grew to love her from her books.



I watched some of her talk show stuff about two weeks ago. She is so real. Kinda reminds me of an older Jenifer Lawrence

She suffers with bipolar and has a wicked sense of humor , wildy bright,-- her books were laugh out loud brilliant.

She took her life to theatre


They say this is not looking good.

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/entertain...-Suffers-Massive-Heart-Attack--408079345.html

Go FL -------------------------again!


[h=1]Canadian passenger removes pants, hijacks luggage tug, drives across OIA tarmac[/h]

http://www.wftv.com/news/local/oran...es-across-active-runways-police-say/478361060

 

[dotr]

http://www.travelerstoday.com/artic...ecurity-following-terror-attack-in-berlin.htm

[h=1]Switzerland, Japan Among Places That Are Safe From Terror, U.S. Cities Increase Security Following Terror Attack In Berlin[/h]

Of course, not all countries are at high risk from terror attacks as Japan and Switzerland, along with Iceland and Poland are countries that are considered to have a low risk from terror threat. Tourists who are traveling to Bolivia, Ecuador, Hungary, the Czech Republic, and Vietnam also don't have to worry about terror attacks as these countries also have low terror threat.

With the threat of terror attacks at an all-time high this season, it's important for people to be vigilant and careful. It's also advisable to try and avoid large crowded areas, especially popular landmarks, and outdoor markets, as these are prime targets for terror attacks.

 

[dotr]

OT

But oh, Carrie Fisher had a heart attack on a plane and it does not look. Her biggest deal was Star Wars but I grew to love her from her books.



I watched some of her talk show stuff about two weeks ago. She is so real. Kinda reminds me of an older Jenifer Lawrence

She suffers with bipolar and has a wicked sense of humor , wildy bright,-- her books were laugh out loud brilliant.

She took her life to theatre


They say this is not looking good.

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/entertain...-Suffers-Massive-Heart-Attack--408079345.html

Go FL -------------------------again!

Canadian passenger removes pants, hijacks luggage tug, drives across OIA tarmac

http://www.wftv.com/news/local/oran...es-across-active-runways-police-say/478361060

Now that crazy pant removing Canuck was clearly my fault, lol!