Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023 #3

[JerseyGirl]

I want to thank all the local posters...Im in AZ and want to learn as much as possible. Yalls are great at giving good insight with the environment in NY

Here is a thread of posts by members over the years:

Q&A for LI Locals and those that grew up here

I have been reading this particular forum for a long time. I am from the Babylon Town area. Since I have been reading these forums there was occasionally some theory or suggestion that had certain details incorrect that could be filled in by a peson from the area. You guys seem to be alot...

www.websleuths.com

 

[SharD]

I hope saying this isn't controversial, I don't mean it to be. Knowing LE found negatives at the house in Massapequa is interesting but speculating about what the pixels are in detail is something that I could see RH doing if he were on here right now.

Well, our motivations are very different. We definitely don't get some sick pleasure from looking at those pictures, like RH would. The pictures are highly disturbing and saddening.

The daughter of the BTK killer on whether the wife and children of Rex Heuermann may have known what he was;

 

[MomminIt]

This is a case that haunts me. They were never able to place a date on that toy soldier . Artifacts date from I believe a 1968-1969 dime and a garment label they ID as 1988. Bag of Rat poison as well. The building is no longer there but RH had access all over the NYC metro area w his work. My mind also went immediately to this case when RH was arrested.

I used to sell vintage and antique goods on eBay, specifically jewelry I obtained at auctions. I learned so much from vintage jewelry message boards. I know there were niche message boards out there for vintage toys. I’m sure a collector or appraiser could ID it, especially with even more info on the internet today. Too bad we don’t have a pic.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Wife of suspected Gilgo Beach serial killer files for divorce

Asa Ellerup, 59, filed for divorce at Suffolk County Supreme Court on Wednesday. She had been married to Rex Heuermann, 59, for over 20 years: the pair have two adult children.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[SharD]

Wife of suspected Gilgo Beach serial killer files for divorce

Asa Ellerup, 59, filed for divorce at Suffolk County Supreme Court on Wednesday. She had been married to Rex Heuermann, 59, for over 20 years: the pair have two adult children.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Gosh, they really should leave her and their family alone.

 

[Just K]

If so.. ugh.. I may not be able to sleep tonight. I've tried enhancing the picture but it only turns more blurry.

I also think that the bodies found around Manorville are more likely to be Bittrolff's handywork. I feel that there are two distinct killers at work; Heuermann, who didn't chop up his victims, and Bittrolff, who did. I dread to think that there may even be a third killer around. What's in the water around there?

Since I first saw his searches and the name of Bittrolf, I've wondered:
Did they know each other?
Did they do this kind of thing together or even with others?
Was there some kind of competition or some territorial messaging?
I just can't shake the feeling that these two are acquainted. I keep thinking of those posts, by a nasty group of mainly five or six men, who called themselves something like The CCC. They posted horrible and often violent things on one of those "escort ratings" pages in one of those dark forums.

 

[MomminIt]

"When we told the wife, she was shocked, she was embarrassed. But there was a point where we showed her certain pictures and she said, ‘OK, it is what it is.'"

— Commissioner Rodney Harrison

Gilgo Beach suspect's wife allegedly told cops: 'Ok, it is what it is'

Suffolk County Police Commissioner Rodney Harrison recalled the moments after Rex Heuermann's arrest, including what he did -- and didn't -- say to police.

www.fox5ny.com

What were those pics and what did she mean by that? I’m shook…

 

[Friday13]

Since I first saw his searches and the name of Bittrolf, I've wondered:
Did they know each other?
Did they do this kind of thing together or even with others?
Was there some kind of competition or some territorial messaging?
I just can't shake the feeling that these two are acquainted. I keep thinking of those posts, by a nasty group of mainly five or six men, who called themselves something like The CCC. They posted horrible and often violent things on one of those "escort ratings" pages in one of those dark forums.

What?!? I never heard anything about the last paragraph of your post. That is so creepy!

 

[airportwoman]

BREAKING NEWS: Wife of Gilgo suspect Rex Heuermann files for divorce, according to court filing.
LIVE UPDATES: Gilgo Beach Murders

https://twitter.com/x/status/1681796921323671553

https://twitter.com/News12LI

Like I said when it was posted earlier, this was probably the first time she felt she could do so safely, just like Derek Chauvin's wife probably did.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

What were those pics and what did she mean by that? I’m shook…

I feel certain that LE would have tried to spare her from anything very shocking or graphic. It could be as simple as selfies he took in conjunction with his online seeking of sex workers.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Gosh, they really should leave her and their family alone.

They should, but they won't.

I simply cannot imagine what agony this family must be in.

 

[DeDee]

I went through all of the photos and articles I could find about the searches which have been conducted since RH's arrest and compiled a list of the items seized so far (ETA: items listed in bold are items I think are noteworthy and/or have not been discussed here previously):

- Black Chevy Avalanche (Friday, July 14)
- Cooler (Friday, July 14)
- Black leather chair/ottoman with wooden legs (Friday, July 14)
- Box containing miscellaneous items including an open pack of red Solo cups and what appears to be a bag of cat treats (Saturday, July 15)
- Copy machine, seized from RH's office in Midtown Manhattan (Saturday, July 15)
- Large item wrapped in gray plastic and sealed with red evidence tape (Saturday, July 15)
- Wood panel (Saturday, July 15)
- Large black metal filing cabinet (Saturday, July 15)
- Plastic bag containing miscellaneous items, including an empty box of cough syrup and a small gum ball machine (Saturday, July 15)
- Stack of books (Saturday, July 15)
- Carved wooden glass-front case containing a blond-haired doll (Saturday, July 15)
- Cat scratch pole and food (Saturday, July 15)
- Bag of miscellaneous items, including a Nespresso box and what appears to be a stuffed animal (Saturday, July 15)
- Framed photo of a fighter jet (Saturday, July 15)
- Bag of what appears to be toys and stuffed animals (Sunday, July 16)
- Box containing some type of wooden object (Sunday, July 16)
- Bin containing rifles (Sunday, July 16)
- Box containing what appears to be electronics (Sunday, July 16)
- Torn-open recliner chair (Sunday, July 16)
- Multiple rifles, including one with a scope (Sunday, July 16)
- Winchester rifle case (Monday, July 17)
- Playboy magazines (Monday, July 17)
- Film negatives (Monday, July 17)
- Poster of the TV show "M.A.S.H." (Monday, July 17)
- Metal rifle case, nondescript (Monday, July 17)
- Camouflage fabric rifle case (Monday, July 17)
- Antique firearm case (Monday, July 17)
- Unframed painting of a blond-haired woman with dark pupils and bruising underneath the eye (Monday, July 17)
- Honey-colored wooden chest of drawers (Monday, July 17)
- Stack of manila envelopes, presumably containing evidence, one with "#b2" written on it (Tuesday, July 18)
- Pet cat (Tuesday, July 18)
- Framed "Lichtenstein: The Princely Collection" art poster (Tuesday, July 18)
- Red lifejacket (Tuesday, July 18)
- Miscellaneous papers and newspaper clippings (Tuesday, July 18)
- Old Playboy magazines (Tuesday, July 18)
- Red electric guitar with embroidered blue strap (Tuesday, July 18)
- Box of items including what appears to be a grenade (Tuesday, July 18)
- Stack of magazines and a sample price list for weapons (Tuesday, July 18)
- Dell computer tower (Tuesday, July 18)
- Large empty carved picture frame (Tuesday, July 18)
- Piece of wood, possibly a vinyl wood table top (Tuesday, July 18)
- Mirror with blue frame (Tuesday, July 18)
- Large item with red fabric, possibly a hammock or umbrella (Tuesday, July 18)

Thank you, Citizen Sleuth. Bookmarked your good work. Do we have images of the searches of his office or storage locker?

I'm not sure why they'd take the guitar. Is Rex a secret musician? The home was crammed with stuff so everything probably was moldy and dusty. The cat's crib has piles of hair in it. Did our guys knife open his recliner looking for hidden evidence? That's so cool!

The lovely "Lichtenstein: The Princely Collection" art poster would probably be valuable if it were mint cond.


https://www.liechtensteincollections.at/en/art/collections

 

[Friday13]

What were those pics and what did she mean by that? I’m shook…

When I read that this was her reaction, I started to wonder if she had, at some point, suspected him and whatever they showed her was the cemented proof that she needed to accept it.

Whether or not she had an inkling, I do feel terrible for her. What an awful nightmare to be trapped in. I think this woman has lived a tough life, most likely has been controlled and felt trapped in a subpar, at best, marriage. This was her out and she isn’t wasting time taking the opportunity.

 

[Just K]

What?!? I never heard anything about the last paragraph of your post. That is so creepy!

Yes, these were the men who spoke about a girl who pulled scams on "dates" and it sounded like the men were referring to AC. One of the members suggested that one of their buddies said something to the effect that she wouldn't be a problem for much longer. I wish there was a good way to find the archived posts, here.

 

[digiskunk]

I went through all of the photos and articles I could find about the searches which have been conducted since RH's arrest and compiled a list of the items seized so far (ETA: items listed in bold are items I think are noteworthy and/or have not been discussed here previously):

- Black Chevy Avalanche (Friday, July 14)
- Cooler (Friday, July 14)
- Black leather chair/ottoman with wooden legs (Friday, July 14)
- Box containing miscellaneous items including an open pack of red Solo cups and what appears to be a bag of cat treats (Saturday, July 15)
- Copy machine, seized from RH's office in Midtown Manhattan (Saturday, July 15)
- Large item wrapped in gray plastic and sealed with red evidence tape (Saturday, July 15)
- Wood panel (Saturday, July 15)
- Large black metal filing cabinet (Saturday, July 15)
- Plastic bag containing miscellaneous items, including an empty box of cough syrup and a small gum ball machine (Saturday, July 15)
- Stack of books (Saturday, July 15)
- Carved wooden glass-front case containing a blond-haired doll (Saturday, July 15)
- Cat scratch pole and food (Saturday, July 15)
- Bag of miscellaneous items, including a Nespresso box and what appears to be a stuffed animal (Saturday, July 15)
- Framed photo of a fighter jet (Saturday, July 15)
- Bag of what appears to be toys and stuffed animals (Sunday, July 16)
- Box containing some type of wooden object (Sunday, July 16)
- Bin containing rifles (Sunday, July 16)
- Box containing what appears to be electronics (Sunday, July 16)
- Torn-open recliner chair (Sunday, July 16)
- Multiple rifles, including one with a scope (Sunday, July 16)
- Winchester rifle case (Monday, July 17)
- Playboy magazines (Monday, July 17)
- Film negatives (Monday, July 17)
- Poster of the TV show "M.A.S.H." (Monday, July 17)
- Metal rifle case, nondescript (Monday, July 17)
- Camouflage fabric rifle case (Monday, July 17)
- Antique firearm case (Monday, July 17)
- Unframed painting of a blond-haired woman with dark pupils and bruising underneath the eye (Monday, July 17)
- Honey-colored wooden chest of drawers (Monday, July 17)
- Stack of manila envelopes, presumably containing evidence, one with "#b2" written on it (Tuesday, July 18)
- Pet cat (Tuesday, July 18)
- Framed "Lichtenstein: The Princely Collection" art poster (Tuesday, July 18)
- Red lifejacket (Tuesday, July 18)
- Miscellaneous papers and newspaper clippings (Tuesday, July 18)
- Old Playboy magazines (Tuesday, July 18)
- Red electric guitar with embroidered blue strap (Tuesday, July 18)
- Box of items including what appears to be a grenade (Tuesday, July 18)
- Stack of magazines and a sample price list for weapons (Tuesday, July 18)
- Dell computer tower (Tuesday, July 18)
- Large empty carved picture frame (Tuesday, July 18)
- Piece of wood, possibly a vinyl wood table top (Tuesday, July 18)
- Mirror with blue frame (Tuesday, July 18)
- Large item with red fabric, possibly a hammock or umbrella (Tuesday, July 18)

So they recovered an "unframed painting of a blond-haired woman with dark pupils and bruising underneath the eye" on July 17. Yeah, I think it's safe to say that this man had a distaste for women (to put it lightly)

 

[rocknrollcirkus]

The series actually has a lot of info that was spot on with things. RIP James Dormer, I always felt he had a deeper understanding of this case

Thank you for posting this. I haven't seen it. What a smart and sweet-seeming fellow. Since you said RIP, he never got to see this arrest. His assessment seems quite accurate.

 

[ArianeEmory]

Re: the photo film strip ... Don’t forget that “Negative” means that the dark things in the photos appear bright, and the bright things appear dark. I really think that a lot of people who think they’re seeing something aren’t taking this into account.

Example on this page:

E-6 Slide Film vs C-41Color Negative Film | The Darkroom

Learn differences in slide film (E-6) and color negative film (C-41). Slide and color negative have different ISO characteristics, exposure and longevity.

thedarkroom.com

 

[stx722]

Re: the photo film strip ... Don’t forget that “Negative” means that the dark things in the photos appear bright, and the bright things appear dark. I really think that a lot of people who think they’re seeing something aren’t taking this into account.

Example on this page:

E-6 Slide Film vs C-41Color Negative Film | The Darkroom

Learn differences in slide film (E-6) and color negative film (C-41). Slide and color negative have different ISO characteristics, exposure and longevity.

thedarkroom.com

At this point, there's simply no way to tell what's in those negatives. People will see what they want to see.

 

[MomminIt]

When I read that this was her reaction, I started to wonder if she had, at some point, suspected him and whatever they showed her was the cemented proof that she needed to accept it.

Whether or not she had an inkling, I do feel terrible for her. What an awful nightmare to be trapped in. I think this woman has lived a tough life, most likely has been controlled and felt trapped in a subpar, at best, marriage. This was her out and she isn’t wasting time taking the opportunity.

<modsnip: his family are victims> I feel for her and I don’t believe she knew anything other than what he showed to her in his treatment of her, which only she knows. To start life over at her age, could be scary, or hopefully for her, liberating.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Re: the photo film strip ... Don’t forget that “Negative” means that the dark things in the photos appear bright, and the bright things appear dark. I really think that a lot of people who think they’re seeing something aren’t taking this into account.

Example on this page:

E-6 Slide Film vs C-41Color Negative Film | The Darkroom

Learn differences in slide film (E-6) and color negative film (C-41). Slide and color negative have different ISO characteristics, exposure and longevity.

thedarkroom.com

Not to mention that unless RH had his own darkroom--and I haven't read anything to indicate this was the case--back in the day RH would have had to take that film somewhere to be processed. I'm sure he wouldn't have taken film of his gruesome handiwork down to the Walgreen's to be developed.