Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023 #5

[Emilie D]

I decided to go through the documents in RH's civil proceedings for pertinent information:

In response to a question about what company he works for, RH responds: "Rex A. Heuermann Architect. There's actually multiple companies. There's RH Consultants & Associates, Inc., and the third one is RMR Inspection Group." (pg. 10 of the Examination Before Trial (EBT) in Heuremann v O'Sullivan)

When asked about how many days off work he missed following the accident on January 11, 2017, RH explains that he missed "approximately four days, maybe five" but that he missed additional days of work because he "needed to be at a [work-related] convention" in Las Vegas for "four or five days" at the "end of the following week." (pgs. 16-18 of the EBT in Heuermann v O'Sullivan)

When asked if he plays any sports, RH responds that "really [the] only thing I competed in was competition rifle." (pg. 79 of the EBT in Heuermann v O'Sullivan)

RH explains that although he is left-handed in "almost anything else," including "the use of any carpentry tools," besides swinging a golf club or bat. (pg. 80 of the EBT in Heuermann v O'Sullivan)

A physical therapist came to RH's home in Massapequa Park and "set up the equipment" at some point after his shoulder surgery in February 2018 (pg. 105 of the EBT in Heuermann v O'Sullivan)

When asked about how often RH experiences pain in his right hip, RH responds: "When I do a lot of walking or in dealing with stairs, and I take a lot of subways in the city which require me to go in and out of the subway multiple times a day, which is a lot of stairs." (pg. 109 of the EBT in Heuermann v O'Sullivan)

RH stated he "stopped [his] bicycle riding" after the accident and "had to have the kids do" the yard work. He also had to "cut back on any woodworking, [and] any work in the house" as well as shooting (pgs. 115-116 of the EBT in Heuermann v O'Sullivan)

Not related to a specific incident, but when asked what activities he had to stop doing as a result of the accident, RH responds "I really don't do much. All I do is work and deal with family." (pgs. 120 of the EBT in Heuermann v O'Sullivan)

When asked if he had traveled outside New York following the conference in Las Vegas, RH says that either he or his wife drove to Virginia to deal with RH's mother "at least a half a dozen" times between February 2017 and April 2018. RH says that he has "been down there [Virginia] without [his] wife" at least two or three times during that time period. He also visited Florida. (pgs. 126-128 of the EBT in Heuermann v O'Sullivan)

Timeline of events

- 1987: Started working in Manhattan (pg. 47 of the EBT in Heuermann v O'Sullivan)

- 12 June 1995: RH files a small claims assessment review against Nassau County in Nassau Supreme Court (Heuermann v Nassau)

- October 31, 2013: RH is allegedly (case later dismissed) struck by a car at the intersection of West 36th Street and 6th Avenue in Manhattan (Affirmation in Opposition in Heuermann v Singh)

- 2014 or 2015: RH had hernia surgery (pg. 99 of the EBT in Heuermann v O'Sullivan)

- 19 February 2016: RH allegedly is involved in a car accident on the Capital Beltway in Prince George's County, Maryland (pg. 3 of the complaint in Heuermann v Martin)

- 11 January 2017, 10:15 p.m.: Car accident at the intersection of Front Street and Second Avenue in Massapequa Park (pg. 35 of the EBT in Heuermann v O'Sullivan)

- March 2017: RH drives down to Virginia to visit his mom by himself. (pg. 129 of the EBT in Heuermann v O'Sullivan)

- November 2017: RH visits Las Vegas alone "for a couple days to meet some people." When asked, "so it was a pleasure trip?," RH responds "I guess you could say that, social." (pg. 133 of the EBT in Heuermann v O'Sullivan)

- January 2018: RH drives down to Cocoa Beach, Florida with his wife, mother, and daughter (pg. 131 of the EBT in Heuermann v O'Sullivan)

- 12 February 2018: RH underwent shoulder surgery. RH explains that his "intention was to do it [the surgery] in the fall" but that he "was tied up with some family matters that forced [him] to delay," namely, his mother "had to be relocated" (pg. 102 of the EBT in Heuermann v O'Sullivan)

- March 2018: RH drives down to Virginia to visit his mom, most likely alone (pg. 131 of the EBT in Heuermann v O'Sullivan)

- Late March - Early April 2018: RH drives his army Jeep "for the first time since September" (pg. 117 of the EBT in Heuermann v O'Sullivan)

- 23 February 2022: RH allegedly gets into a car accident near the intersection of Union Avenue and Devoe Street in Brooklyn (pg. 5 of complaint in Heuermann v Fenimore)

Reading this knowing what we know now is creepy as hell. Wonder what kind of social visit he was having in Virginia?

 

[ArmChairDet]

But eventually he would die (or retire and move).

I know others aren't curious about this, but I do wonder what he planned to do with...stuff. LE is obviously finding evidence in the house. They wouldn't be hauling things away for days on end otherwise.

I guess the wife and daughter would be left with that task if he wasn't caught. Didn't he care if they found incriminating items about their husband/father? It's the least of his thoughtfulness, I know, but it is utterly thoughtless.

jmo

Is there evidence we know was found? I have not seen reports of any yet. I think if he passed away and was not a suspect there would not be any found. It appears the evidence being searched for (from search warrant) is items that can tie him to evidence at the body locations. We know he has guns, rope, camouflage netting from duck hunting. Most of the items would not incriminate him if he weren't a suspect.

 

[LadyL]

I wondered about STD to wife but the police found condoms.

condoms where?

 

[dotr]

No idea whether a murder junkie or a true crime fan would buy it or no one would!

Maybe a television or film company would want to rent it for big bucks?
In the Sherman murders case, the mansion they were killed in was sold & quickly demolished including its contents. The now empty space can now be sold for lots more $$. imo, speculation, fwiw.

 

[ArmChairDet]

Maybe a television or film company would want to rent it for big bucks?
In the Sherman murders case, the mansion they were killed in was sold & quickly demolished including its contents. The now empty space can now be sold for lots more $$. imo, speculation, fwiw.

Even Gacy's old home has a nice house on it now. Probably still bones underneath.

 

[Emilie D]

Even Gacy's old home has a nice house on it now. Probably still bones underneath.

Let’s just hope they never have to fix an underground plumbing issue. Can you imagine?

 

[NonameLurker]

How can I be following the case closely and be completely lost, lol.

Mayer/Myer was his "first paying client" or something to that effect.

 

[Inthedetails]

Is there evidence we know was found? I have not seen reports of any yet. I think if he passed away and was not a suspect there would not be any found. It appears the evidence being searched for (from search warrant) is items that can tie him to evidence at the body locations. We know he has guns, rope, camouflage netting from duck hunting. Most of the items would not incriminate him if he weren't a suspect.

Maybe so. I suspect there is more than could be passed off as random clutter, but maybe not.

It's tradition in my family to downsize and minimize as you age, as a gift to your children so they don't have to deal with a bunch of household stuff. It's so normal to me, but I know that is not something everyone considers. I'm younger than RH but already think of it. I'll pipe down as I realize others don't find his stuff a curiosity (and evidence) like I do.

Whatever his plan was or wasn't, it didn't work.

jmo

 

[LadyL]

can someone help me find the source of his wife supposedly saying or acting like 'it is what it is'?

I've read like five articles now and can't find it

I'm just trying to clear up whether she said it or not

 

[Inthedetails]

can someone help me find the source of his wife supposedly saying or acting like 'it is what it is'?

I've read like five articles now and can't find it

I'm just trying to clear up whether she said it or not

This is the first article that popped up when I googled it. The article quotes the county police commissioner.

‘Blindsided’ wife of Long Island serial killer suspect files for divorce

Asa Ellerup, 59, has been married to Rex Heuermann for 27 years, but police say she was out of state at time killings occurred

www.theguardian.com

 

[Inthedetails]

can someone help me find the source of his wife supposedly saying or acting like 'it is what it is'?

I've read like five articles now and can't find it

I'm just trying to clear up whether she said it or not

I'm not sure I can link to Fox as a source, but if you go to youtube channel of FOX 5 New York, with a clip entitled "Gilgo Beach suspect's wife: Ok, it is what it is" and go to about the 2minute mark, you will the police commissioner state it himself.

 

[x_files]

can someone help me find the source of his wife supposedly saying or acting like 'it is what it is'?

I've read like five articles now and can't find it

I'm just trying to clear up whether she said it or not

I read it too...
"Harrison also told Fox News on Wednesday that Ellerup and her children had expressed “shock, disappointment and disgust” over the allegations against Heuermann when they met with investigators.

According to Harrison, after investigators showed her certain pictures, Ellerup had remarked: “OK, it is what it is.”

‘Blindsided’ wife of Long Island serial killer suspect files for divorce

Asa Ellerup, 59, has been married to Rex Heuermann for 27 years, but police say she was out of state at time killings occurred

www.theguardian.com

 

[x_files]

can someone help me find the source of his wife supposedly saying or acting like 'it is what it is'?

I've read like five articles now and can't find it

I'm just trying to clear up whether she said it or not

"Harrison also told Fox News on Wednesday that Ellerup and her children had expressed “shock, disappointment and disgust” over the allegations against Heuermann when they met with investigators.

According to Harrison, after investigators showed her certain pictures, Ellerup had remarked: “OK, it is what it is.”

‘Blindsided’ wife of Long Island serial killer suspect files for divorce

Asa Ellerup, 59, has been married to Rex Heuermann for 27 years, but police say she was out of state at time killings occurred

www.theguardian.com

 

[imstilla.grandma]

In 2010 - the same year that the remains of some of the victims were found on Gilgo Beach - Craigslist removed its adult services section. Huermann’s victims utilized Craigslist erotic/adult services section to advertise. Relatively affordable and accessible, this Craigslist section was a vital tool for many sex workers. Sex workers, like most of us, depend upon the Internet to conduct business and, importantly, to screen clients and share safety information with other sex workers. Indeed, researchers have found that Craigslist’s erotic advertising page may have prompted a 17 percent decrease in the female homicide rate.

In 2018, Craigslist would remove its entire personals section in advance of the passage of the Fight Online Sex Trafficking Act (FOSTA).

Gilgo Beach and the ‘normal’ man turned serial killer

We can prevent serial murders of sex workers

www.independent.co.uk

 

[imstilla.grandma]

 

[mst]

In 2010 - the same year that the remains of some of the victims were found on Gilgo Beach - Craigslist removed its adult services section. Huermann’s victims utilized Craigslist erotic/adult services section to advertise. Relatively affordable and accessible, this Craigslist section was a vital tool for many sex workers. Sex workers, like most of us, depend upon the Internet to conduct business and, importantly, to screen clients and share safety information with other sex workers. Indeed, researchers have found that Craigslist’s erotic advertising page may have prompted a 17 percent decrease in the female homicide rate.

In 2018, Craigslist would remove its entire personals section in advance of the passage of the Fight Online Sex Trafficking Act (FOSTA).

Gilgo Beach and the ‘normal’ man turned serial killer

We can prevent serial murders of sex workers

www.independent.co.uk

I just went on nyc Craigslist to see. You can still find them with very little searching

 

[investigatefred]

In 2010 - the same year that the remains of some of the victims were found on Gilgo Beach - Craigslist removed its adult services section. Huermann’s victims utilized Craigslist erotic/adult services section to advertise. Relatively affordable and accessible, this Craigslist section was a vital tool for many sex workers. Sex workers, like most of us, depend upon the Internet to conduct business and, importantly, to screen clients and share safety information with other sex workers. Indeed, researchers have found that Craigslist’s erotic advertising page may have prompted a 17 percent decrease in the female homicide rate.

In 2018, Craigslist would remove its entire personals section in advance of the passage of the Fight Online Sex Trafficking Act (FOSTA).

Gilgo Beach and the ‘normal’ man turned serial killer

We can prevent serial murders of sex workers

www.independent.co.uk

I think Backpage became popular with the SW after Craigslist stopped allowing it. (Not sure Backpage is still even a thing...there are probably apps and other things they use these days.)

 

[JennyJukes]

"The Long Island man whose tip proved key to nailing Gilgo Beach murder suspect Rex Heuermann wants to know why it took police more than a decade to follow up on his lead."

Gilgo Beach murder tipster wants to know why bust took 13 years: ‘I mean, come on! Why didn’t they use that?’

David Schaller, the last person to see Gilgo Beach victim Amber Lynn Costello alive in 2010, says he gave cops a description of suspect Rex Heuermann and his Chevy Avalanche — and they did no…

nypost.com

“When they told me she was dead, he was the first person who jumped into my head,” Schaller told the Associated Press of the then-unknown suspect. “I’ve been picturing his face for 13 years.”

Has AC's roommate confirmed whether RH is the "ogre" he saw....?

 

[MuddyTires]

Her response is so unusual. No shock. “It is what it is”

The police chief himself said she reacted with shock and embarrassment.

 

[Pinkizzy]

He drives to Maryland, Virginia, Florida and Las Vegas. This is very interesting

I decided to go through the documents in RH's civil proceedings for pertinent information:

In response to a question about what company he works for, RH responds: "Rex A. Heuermann Architect. There's actually multiple companies. There's RH Consultants & Associates, Inc., and the third one is RMR Inspection Group." (pg. 10 of the Examination Before Trial (EBT) in Heuremann v O'Sullivan)

When asked about how many days off work he missed following the accident on January 11, 2017, RH explains that he missed "approximately four days, maybe five" but that he missed additional days of work because he "needed to be at a [work-related] convention" in Las Vegas for "four or five days" at the "end of the following week." (pgs. 16-18 of the EBT in Heuermann v O'Sullivan)

When asked if he plays any sports, RH responds that "really [the] only thing I competed in was competition rifle." (pg. 79 of the EBT in Heuermann v O'Sullivan)

RH explains that although he is left-handed in "almost anything else," including "the use of any carpentry tools," besides swinging a golf club or bat. (pg. 80 of the EBT in Heuermann v O'Sullivan)

A physical therapist came to RH's home in Massapequa Park and "set up the equipment" at some point after his shoulder surgery in February 2018 (pg. 105 of the EBT in Heuermann v O'Sullivan)

When asked about how often RH experiences pain in his right hip, RH responds: "When I do a lot of walking or in dealing with stairs, and I take a lot of subways in the city which require me to go in and out of the subway multiple times a day, which is a lot of stairs." (pg. 109 of the EBT in Heuermann v O'Sullivan)

RH stated he "stopped [his] bicycle riding" after the accident and "had to have the kids do" the yard work. He also had to "cut back on any woodworking, [and] any work in the house" as well as shooting (pgs. 115-116 of the EBT in Heuermann v O'Sullivan)

Not related to a specific incident, but when asked what activities he had to stop doing as a result of the accident, RH responds "I really don't do much. All I do is work and deal with family." (pgs. 120 of the EBT in Heuermann v O'Sullivan)

When asked if he had traveled outside New York following the conference in Las Vegas, RH says that either he or his wife drove to Virginia to deal with RH's mother "at least a half a dozen" times between February 2017 and April 2018. RH says that he has "been down there [Virginia] without [his] wife" at least two or three times during that time period. He also visited Florida. (pgs. 126-128 of the EBT in Heuermann v O'Sullivan)

Timeline of events

- 1987: Started working in Manhattan (pg. 47 of the EBT in Heuermann v O'Sullivan)

- 12 June 1995: RH files a small claims assessment review against Nassau County in Nassau Supreme Court (Heuermann v Nassau)

- October 31, 2013: RH is allegedly (case later dismissed) struck by a car at the intersection of West 36th Street and 6th Avenue in Manhattan (Affirmation in Opposition in Heuermann v Singh)

- 2014 or 2015: RH had hernia surgery (pg. 99 of the EBT in Heuermann v O'Sullivan)

- 19 February 2016: RH allegedly is involved in a car accident on the Capital Beltway in Prince George's County, Maryland (pg. 3 of the complaint in Heuermann v Martin)

- 11 January 2017, 10:15 p.m.: Car accident at the intersection of Front Street and Second Avenue in Massapequa Park (pg. 35 of the EBT in Heuermann v O'Sullivan)

- March 2017: RH drives down to Virginia to visit his mom by himself. (pg. 129 of the EBT in Heuermann v O'Sullivan)

- November 2017: RH visits Las Vegas alone "for a couple days to meet some people." When asked, "so it was a pleasure trip?," RH responds "I guess you could say that, social." (pg. 133 of the EBT in Heuermann v O'Sullivan)

- January 2018: RH drives down to Cocoa Beach, Florida with his wife, mother, and daughter (pg. 131 of the EBT in Heuermann v O'Sullivan)

- 12 February 2018: RH underwent shoulder surgery. RH explains that his "intention was to do it [the surgery] in the fall" but that he "was tied up with some family matters that forced [him] to delay," namely, his mother "had to be relocated" (pg. 102 of the EBT in Heuermann v O'Sullivan)

- March 2018: RH drives down to Virginia to visit his mom, most likely alone (pg. 131 of the EBT in Heuermann v O'Sullivan)

- Late March - Early April 2018: RH drives his army Jeep "for the first time since September" (pg. 117 of the EBT in Heuermann v O'Sullivan)

- 23 February 2022: RH allegedly gets into a car accident near the intersection of Union Avenue and Devoe Street in Brooklyn (pg. 5 of complaint in Heuermann v Fenimore)