Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023 #9

[dotr]

Possible re post.

Rex Heuermann in tears, 'I didn't do this,' says in Long Island serial murders

Rex Heuermann, the alleged serial killer behind the Gilgo Beach murders, denied his involvement in the killings after his arrest.

www.hindustantimes.com

''Rex Heuermann, the alleged serial killer behind the Gilgo Beach murders, was crying and denying his involvement in the killings after his arrest on Thursday, his lawyer said Friday.''

"A bully, a wimpy type of bully"

''Jul 22, 2023 #GilgoBeach #LawAndCrime
Katherine Ramsland, a serial killer expert and professor of forensic psychology, spoke to the Law&Crime Network’s Angenette Levy about the Gilgo Beach murder suspect Rex Heuermann. Ramsland detailed the parallels between Heuermann’s case and other serial killers, including Dennis Radar, who’s known as BTK. “He strikes me as a coward,” Ramsland said about Heuermann. “A wimpy type of bully who’s going after women he can easily kill, torture, whatever he did.”

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Investigators at the Suffolk County jail in Riverhead, N.Y., who belong to a sex-trafficking unit have been interviewing female inmates who have worked as escorts to gain more information about Mr. Heuermann, a 59-year-old architect who has pleaded not guilty and is being held without bail under the same roof

The Gilgo Beach Suspect May Have Hunted Them. Now They’re Key Witnesses. (Published 2023)

Investigators are talking to women behind bars who worked as escorts and had encounters with the suspect, Rex Heuermann. They had been ignored for years.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Betty P]

Investigators at the Suffolk County jail in Riverhead, N.Y., who belong to a sex-trafficking unit have been interviewing female inmates who have worked as escorts to gain more information about Mr. Heuermann, a 59-year-old architect who has pleaded not guilty and is being held without bail under the same roof

The Gilgo Beach Suspect May Have Hunted Them. Now They’re Key Witnesses. (Published 2023)

Investigators are talking to women behind bars who worked as escorts and had encounters with the suspect, Rex Heuermann. They had been ignored for years.

www.nytimes.com

Great idea!

Jail officials say they have interviewed about 120 women between the Riverhead jail and the county’s other lockup, in Yaphank. They have forwarded information to the interdepartmental Gilgo Beach Task Force from 10 inmates, who claim to have encountered Mr. Heuermann in contexts ranging from online date requests to in-person rendezvous.

Two women said that while working as escorts they had intimate encounters with Mr. Heuermann in which his violent and aggressive behavior left them frightened but not injured, said Errol D. Toulon Jr., the Suffolk County sheriff.

 

[Betty P]

Investigators at the Suffolk County jail in Riverhead, N.Y., who belong to a sex-trafficking unit have been interviewing female inmates who have worked as escorts to gain more information about Mr. Heuermann, a 59-year-old architect who has pleaded not guilty and is being held without bail under the same roof

The Gilgo Beach Suspect May Have Hunted Them. Now They’re Key Witnesses. (Published 2023)

Investigators are talking to women behind bars who worked as escorts and had encounters with the suspect, Rex Heuermann. They had been ignored for years.

www.nytimes.com

John Ray is a little more pessimistic about how much information they can get about the LISK / Rex H. He has a point, most of the sex workers from that time are probably retired or deceased. It's still a good idea, JMO. Police should always try to keep track of violent acts being committed against sex workers. Those are criminals they need to pay attention to.

John Ray, a lawyer for two Gilgo victims’ families, said it was “prudent to go straight to the sex workers and try to get deep as they can into the subculture Rex Heuermann was existing in.”

But the remains of most of the victims, who had advertised on Craigslist, were found in 2010 and 2011. Mr. Ray called it unlikely that the unit would find information relevant to the Gilgo killings, which may have occurred more than 15 years ago.

“Most of escorts back then have died or retired,” he said.

 

[Ruminations]

John Ray is a little more pessimistic about how much information they can get about the LISK / Rex H. He has a point, most of the sex workers from that time are probably retired or deceased. It's still a good idea, JMO. Police should always try to keep track of violent acts being committed against sex workers. Those are criminals they need to pay attention to.

Those who have retired could talk in theory; but they can't be reached by arrest for prostitution.

IMO most retirees who do not disclose their sex-work past to others around them will be reluctant to talk. Maybe retirees have discussed and processed their past with close people they trust, but do not want their employer, their PTA, their crazy intolerant brother-in-law, their pimp who didn't happen to book Rex, etc. to know.

So I understand the skepticism that it's going to be a huge "catch," but a small catch is a catch just the same.

The dead can't talk, but their surviving relatives and friends could. Although they frankly face the same issues the retirees face: do I want my love one branded as "sex worker."



MOO

 

[Betty P]

Those who have retired could talk in theory; but they can't be reached by arrest for prostitution.

IMO most retirees who do not disclose their sex-work past to others around them will be reluctant to talk. Maybe retirees have discussed and processed their past with close people they trust, but do not want their employer, their PTA, their crazy intolerant brother-in-law, their pimp who didn't happen to book Rex, etc. to know.

So I understand the skepticism that it's going to be a huge "catch," but a small catch is a catch just the same.

The dead can't talk, but their surviving relatives and friends could. Although they frankly face the same issues the retirees face: do I want my love one branded as "sex worker."



MOO

These might be some of the people who share information with John Ray. He keeps their identities private.
Agree also about surviving friends and relatives who may have heard a SW speak of someone like Rex H. or any violent sex offender, for that matter. They need to follow up on all of them.

I can see how this can get expensive for a local sheriff or police dept. Maybe that's why SW should be legalized and taxed - to help pay for LE staff and officers to keep an eye on the local business. JMO Like MJ and gambling/sports betting. At least I hope they're taxing the gambling and betting.

 

[Ruminations]

These might be some of the people who share information with John Ray. He keeps their identities private.
Agree also about surviving friends and relatives who may have heard a SW speak of someone like Rex H. or any violent sex offender, for that matter. They need to follow up on all of them.

I can see how this can get expensive for a local sheriff or police dept. Maybe that's why SW should be legalized and taxed - to help pay for LE staff and officers to keep an eye on the local business. JMO Like MJ and gambling/sports betting. At least I hope they're taxing the gambling and betting.

Right. And since people speaking to John Ray are speaking to him because they don't want to speak to LE, and they want the ability to stay under the GJ subpoena radar, of course.

It's natural you and I are a bit more optimistic than he.

MOO

 

[sds71]

Alleged Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex A. Heuermann has been served with divorce papers inside the Suffolk County Jail and is not contesting the end of his marriage, a document obtained by Newsday shows.

Heuermann, 60, of Massapequa Park, signed the admission of service on Sept. 22, when he was served the summons and complaint in his pending divorce from his estranged wife Asa Ellerup, according to the document and online court records.

“I do not intend to respond to the Summons, or appear in the action, or answer the Complaint and I waive the twenty (20) day period provided by law to appear and answer the Complaint,” read the document that Heuermann signed. “I consent to the entry of a default judgment of divorce against me. … I waive the service of all further papers in this action except for a Judgment of Divorce.”

Gilgo Beach killings document: Alleged serial killer Rex Heuermann served divorce papers and is not contesting end of marriage

"I consent to the entry of a default judgment of divorce against me. ... I waive the service of all further papers in this action except for a Judgment of Divorce," the document reads.

www.newsday.com

 

[Ruminations]

Alleged Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex A. Heuermann has been served with divorce papers inside the Suffolk County Jail and is not contesting the end of his marriage, a document obtained by Newsday shows.

Heuermann, 60, of Massapequa Park, signed the admission of service on Sept. 22, when he was served the summons and complaint in his pending divorce from his estranged wife Asa Ellerup, according to the document and online court records.

“I do not intend to respond to the Summons, or appear in the action, or answer the Complaint and I waive the twenty (20) day period provided by law to appear and answer the Complaint,” read the document that Heuermann signed. “I consent to the entry of a default judgment of divorce against me. … I waive the service of all further papers in this action except for a Judgment of Divorce.”

Gilgo Beach killings document: Alleged serial killer Rex Heuermann served divorce papers and is not contesting end of marriage

"I consent to the entry of a default judgment of divorce against me. ... I waive the service of all further papers in this action except for a Judgment of Divorce," the document reads.

www.newsday.com

Because the more Asa retains in divorce, the less is left for the alleged victims.

MOO

 

[Jurisprudence]

Alleged Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex A. Heuermann has been served with divorce papers inside the Suffolk County Jail and is not contesting the end of his marriage, a document obtained by Newsday shows.

Heuermann, 60, of Massapequa Park, signed the admission of service on Sept. 22, when he was served the summons and complaint in his pending divorce from his estranged wife Asa Ellerup, according to the document and online court records.

“I do not intend to respond to the Summons, or appear in the action, or answer the Complaint and I waive the twenty (20) day period provided by law to appear and answer the Complaint,” read the document that Heuermann signed. “I consent to the entry of a default judgment of divorce against me. … I waive the service of all further papers in this action except for a Judgment of Divorce.”

Gilgo Beach killings document: Alleged serial killer Rex Heuermann served divorce papers and is not contesting end of marriage

"I consent to the entry of a default judgment of divorce against me. ... I waive the service of all further papers in this action except for a Judgment of Divorce," the document reads.

www.newsday.com

Three possibilities come to mind:

1. He wants to do the right thing.
2. He has bigger fish to fry.
3. He doesn't expect to be free again and therefore has no vested interest in fighting for a share of assets.

It sounds like he's not even entering into/negotiating a settlement agreement.

speculation/opinion

 

[Sundog]

Three possibilities come to mind:

1. He wants to do the right thing.
2. He has bigger fish to fry.
3. He doesn't expect to be free again and therefore has no vested interest in fighting for a share of assets.

It sounds like he's not even entering into/negotiating a settlement agreement.

speculation/opinion

Whatever the reason, I am glad that the divorce and allocation of assets can move forward now so that Asa and her children can move forward with their lives with some financial stability, depending of course on debts that will need to be paid.

 

[Jurisprudence]

Whatever the reason, I am glad that the divorce and allocation of assets can move forward now so that Asa and her children can move forward with their lives with some financial stability, depending of course on debts that will need to be paid.

I was kind of hinting at whether his underlying reason exhibits potential consciousness of guilt. He knows he will never be free.

Complete speculation.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

"Several of the firearms were apparently illegally possessed," Assistant Suffolk County District Attorney Lawrence Opisso wrote in the motion filed Tuesday before state Supreme Court Justice Richard Ambro.

"For example, upon conversations with members of the Suffolk County Crime Lab and the Suffolk County Police Department, who recovered the items, but have not conducted a forensic examination, at least 26 unregistered handguns, 15 unregistered assault weapons and 10 high-capacity magazines appear to have been possessed in the defendant's home in violation of [state firearms laws]."

Gilgo Beach killings: Nassau prosecutors probing alleged serial killer Rex Heuermann's seized guns, court filing shows

Nassau launched its own investigation after Suffolk prosecutors said they believe they seized dozens of unregistered handguns and assault weapons during the July search of Rex Heuermann's Massapequa Park home, the new filing reveals.

www.newsday.com

 

[CuriousCricket]

I was kind of hinting at whether his underlying reason exhibits potential consciousness of guilt. He knows he will never be free.

Complete speculation.

True. Or perhaps IF he goes free, the less fuss and payment out to the lawyers means he and AE can proceed with their lives with the most they are able to salvage from this mess.

 

[sds71]

Shannan Gilbert's Attorney Says There is Link to Heuermann

John Ray, who represents Shannan Gilbert's family, told Julie Grant that his investigation shows a link between her and Rex Heuermann.

www.courttv.com

 

[NyxNY]

John Ray is a little more pessimistic about how much information they can get about the LISK / Rex H. He has a point, most of the sex workers from that time are probably retired or deceased. It's still a good idea, JMO. Police should always try to keep track of violent acts being committed against sex workers. Those are criminals they need to pay attention to.

There are some not deceased and that are retired (or not) that still live a life of crime due to their circumstances. Mind you, I am not pigeon-holing anyone, and I am not saying ALL, but there are still some in the system whereas in and out of jail is like a revolving door.

 

[Just K]

"Several of the firearms were apparently illegally possessed," Assistant Suffolk County District Attorney Lawrence Opisso wrote in the motion filed Tuesday before state Supreme Court Justice Richard Ambro.

"For example, upon conversations with members of the Suffolk County Crime Lab and the Suffolk County Police Department, who recovered the items, but have not conducted a forensic examination, at least 26 unregistered handguns, 15 unregistered assault weapons and 10 high-capacity magazines appear to have been possessed in the defendant's home in violation of [state firearms laws]."

Gilgo Beach killings: Nassau prosecutors probing alleged serial killer Rex Heuermann's seized guns, court filing shows

Nassau launched its own investigation after Suffolk prosecutors said they believe they seized dozens of unregistered handguns and assault weapons during the July search of Rex Heuermann's Massapequa Park home, the new filing reveals.

www.newsday.com

41 weapons to analyze for ballistics matches- that’s going to take some time.

 

[DS2021]

Shannan Gilbert's Attorney Says There is Link to Heuermann

John Ray, who represents Shannan Gilbert's family, told Julie Grant that his investigation shows a link between her and Rex Heuermann.

www.courttv.com

Am i the only one that feels that JR is just trying to find ways to involve himself in RHs case?

 

[Ruminations]

Am i the only one that feels that JR is just trying to find ways to involve himself in RHs case?

I don't feel that way at all.

He's been one of the driving forces for transparency and information.

He is keeping LE on task.

MOO

 

[Betty P]

Three possibilities come to mind:

1. He wants to do the right thing.
2. He has bigger fish to fry.
3. He doesn't expect to be free again and therefore has no vested interest in fighting for a share of assets.

It sounds like he's not even entering into/negotiating a settlement agreement.

speculation/opinion

He's just helping his wife protect their assets so the victims children can't recover anything for the loss of their parents at the hands of the killer. Pretty standard for murderers to do this for their wives.