Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023 #9

[Betty P]

I don't feel that way at all.

He's been one of the driving forces for transparency and information.

He is keeping LE on task.

MOO

Agree. JMO, he may be sharing information with LE from other SW that will help them either tie more murders to Rex H or to someone else.

 

[DS2021]

I don't feel that way at all.

He's been one of the driving forces for transparency and information.

He is keeping LE on task.

MOO

Ok. Im fairly new to this case. Ill definitely do more digging into him and try to stay open minded. Thank you for your perspective

 

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[imstilla.grandma]

* These two paragraphs are in direct opposition. Defense sounds like he has no common sense… I call it a win for Prosecution. What happens with illegally registered guns confiscated from normal people. Is the gun returned once it is registered?

Several "of the firearms seized were apparently illegally purchased," Assistant District Attorney Lawrence Opisso wrote in court papers filed this week. The collection of guns include "at least 26 unregistered handguns, 15 unregistered assault weapons and 10 high-capacity magazines" in violation of state law, he added.

The 59-year-old Heuermann claims to have a "continued financial interest" in those guns and has "requested that the firearms be returned to him," in a request the district attorney opposes, according to Opisso.

Suspect in Gilgo Beach slayings kept dozens of illegally purchased firearms, DA says

Prosecutors oppose returning the weapons to Rex Heuermann, who wants the guns back to sell and finance his defense.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Betty P]

* These two paragraphs are in direct opposition. Defense sounds like he has no common sense… I call it a win for Prosecution. What happens with illegally registered guns confiscated from normal people. Is the gun returned once it is registered?

Several "of the firearms seized were apparently illegally purchased," Assistant District Attorney Lawrence Opisso wrote in court papers filed this week. The collection of guns include "at least 26 unregistered handguns, 15 unregistered assault weapons and 10 high-capacity magazines" in violation of state law, he added.

The 59-year-old Heuermann claims to have a "continued financial interest" in those guns and has "requested that the firearms be returned to him," in a request the district attorney opposes, according to Opisso.

Suspect in Gilgo Beach slayings kept dozens of illegally purchased firearms, DA says

Prosecutors oppose returning the weapons to Rex Heuermann, who wants the guns back to sell and finance his defense.

www.nbcnews.com

Great argument against his client - a significant number of the weapons cache were illegally acquired. In that case, he has no financial interest in them.

 

[Ruminations]

Great argument against his client - a significant number of the weapons cache were illegally acquired. In that case, he has no financial interest in them.

IKR? At least one of those weapons had a destroyed serial number.

What if he had other contraband?

"Your honor, my collection of heroin and injection paraphernalia has a significant value. It is marital property. I'd like to sell it and divide it up with the marital assets."

MOO

 

[Jurisprudence]

 

[Friday13]

Is anyone buying this or is this a ploy by The Happy Face Killer to have attention for a hot minute?
Happy Face Killer reveals Gilgo Beach suspect 'sent letter' in chilling video

 

[Sundog]

Is anyone buying this or is this a ploy by The Happy Face Killer to have attention for a hot minute?
Happy Face Killer reveals Gilgo Beach suspect 'sent letter' in chilling video

Not buying it.

 

[CuriousCricket]

Is anyone buying this or is this a ploy by The Happy Face Killer to have attention for a hot minute?
Happy Face Killer reveals Gilgo Beach suspect 'sent letter' in chilling video

Wasn't it the Happy Face Killer's daughter who helped the Heuermann family set up the account and worked with them during the very early days after RH was arrested. I can see a thank you note or some sort of acknowledgement from RH to the Happy Face Killer or perhaps the first contact went the other way as HFK's daughter did go into Massapequa Park. HFK said he told RH what he tells all the others when they're arrested. So, maybe as a seasoned member of the SK gang, he writes others arrested and gives them the "benefit" of his experience.

Oh, and yes, HFK is still craving that attention. You saw that same love of the limelight with a dressed up Dennis Rader, basking in the opportunity to be an expert; with Joel Rafkin being so casual, quite charming and expansive. They must love it when a suspected SK is arrested and they are sought out as experts on the subject.

 

[Jurisprudence]

Is anyone buying this or is this a ploy by The Happy Face Killer to have attention for a hot minute?
Happy Face Killer reveals Gilgo Beach suspect 'sent letter' in chilling video

I guess it's possible he could have sent a thank you to relay to his daughter?

jmo

 

[girlhasnoname]

I wonder who the 'unknown individual is' that has been to visit RH? The clip says no family has been to see him, only his lawyers and this one other person. Hmmmm.

 

[CuriousCricket]

I wonder who the 'unknown individual is' that has been to visit RH? The clip says no family has been to see him, only his lawyers and this one other person. Hmmmm.

THAT is the million dollar question, isn't it? I feel sure that person had to sign in and be vetted, and so is known to LE, but the name just hasn't been released to the public. My mind strays to wonder how far out they had to reach from Burke and Spota to make it seem there is no connection ---- I know, my mind's not supposed to go there, but it does.

I'm not sure just how good HFK's advice is to RH. As the cross country killer (one of), his background and killing across jurisdictions is vastly different from Heuermann's. RH has always lived in one place and may feel he has contacts in place who can help him. Guess we'll see how things play out.

 

[Betty P]

THAT is the million dollar question, isn't it? I feel sure that person had to sign in and be vetted, and so is known to LE, but the name just hasn't been released to the public. My mind strays to wonder how far out they had to reach from Burke and Spota to make it seem there is no connection ---- I know, my mind's not supposed to go there, but it does.

I'm not sure just how good HFK's advice is to RH. As the cross country killer (one of), his background and killing across jurisdictions is vastly different from Heuermann's. RH has always lived in one place and may feel he has contacts in place who can help him. Guess we'll see how things play out.

HFK seems different from RH. He's more willing to atone for his horrible crimes by giving LE the details to help the victims and their families. Rex H is doing no such thing and I doubt he ever will. He seems to have a bit of an ego and sees himself as a professional person, with his office in Manhattan. His pride and narcissism won't allow him to admit to any murders or help his victims' families.

 

[CuriousCricket]

HFK seems different from RH. He's more willing to atone for his horrible crimes by giving LE the details to help the victims and their families. Rex H is doing no such thing and I doubt he ever will. He seems to have a bit of an ego and sees himself as a professional person, with his office in Manhattan. His pride and narcissism won't allow him to admit to any murders or help his victims' families.

After reading about HFK, I agree that the two men are so different it doesn't make sense to believe RH will take HFK's advice and confess. We all know you can never tell about a jury. RH may have watched cases in Suffolk County and have some idea about juries there. HFK turned himself in. He communicated with the media. No, two completely different men. HFK managed to get some communication with a newsworthy subject and had a golden opportunity to get some press. So, he did.

 

[iamshadow21]

HFK seems different from RH. He's more willing to atone for his horrible crimes by giving LE the details to help the victims and their families. Rex H is doing no such thing and I doubt he ever will. He seems to have a bit of an ego and sees himself as a professional person, with his office in Manhattan. His pride and narcissism won't allow him to admit to any murders or help his victims' families.

I'd be hesitant to read any empathy or altruism into Jeperson's actions. For a subset of serial killers, the engagement with police, reporters, psychologists and family members of victims is a phase or evolution of their behaviour. Think Edmund Kemper, Samuel Little, etc. They've moved to a place where they just want to talk about and relive their crimes, and people engaging them about it gives them a platform to do it. Think of someone in your life with a deep passionate interest or special subject, who lights up when they get to talk about it. That's these folks and the murders they did.

MOO

 

[Betty P]

I'd be hesitant to read any empathy or altruism into Jeperson's actions. For a subset of serial killers, the engagement with police, reporters, psychologists and family members of victims is a phase or evolution of their behaviour. Think Edmund Kemper, Samuel Little, etc. They've moved to a place where they just want to talk about and relive their crimes, and people engaging them about it gives them a platform to do it. Think of someone in your life with a deep passionate interest or special subject, who lights up when they get to talk about it. That's these folks and the murders they did.

MOO

Agree. He feels a need to talk about his crimes. I wouldn’t say he’s empathetic, but wants to do what is expedient to make things easier on himself. Even guys like Ed Kemp became tired of what they were doing and wanted to be stopped or caught.

Rex H is a different type, though.

 

[CuriousCricket]

Agree. He feels a need to talk about his crimes. I wouldn’t say he’s empathetic, but wants to do what is expedient to make things easier on himself. Even guys like Ed Kemp became tired of what they were doing and wanted to be stopped or caught.

Rex H is a different type, though.

Not just talk about his crimes, but to receive credit for them. Remember that his first message was left because a woman had confessed to his murder. That and now 30 years later, becoming involved with Heuermann who is so much in the news now . . . Doesn't that sound as though he really craves attention?

 

[Teche]

Whatever the reason, I am glad that the divorce and allocation of assets can move forward now so that Asa and her children can move forward with their lives with some financial stability, depending of course on debts that will need to be paid

I believe that the funds should be allocated for his defense and his victims’ family. The family is understandably facing struggles.

 

[Ruminations]

I believe that the funds should be allocated for his defense and his victims’ family. The family is understandably facing struggles.

It would be very unusual for the state to concern itself with the defense expenses except in that eligible persons have an attorney provided if they cannot afford their own. And, as I understand, this is already happening. So in practice, money for defense is just going back to the state and not making a tangible difference to the accused.

It is not at all typical for the family of the criminal to get their assets protected in any special way. I feel for C., in particular; this must be confusing to him. But AE has more money in her own name than before, and, if it is true that she lived under corrersive control, which seems quite possible, she has more autonomy now than ever. There was a tremendous outpouring of support from neighbors for AE and family, another resource she did not have before her husband's incarceration. With his caretaker more in control of her life including finances, C. May have more stability, too.

The victims I hurt for the most are the children of the GB4, the mothers and fathers of the GB4, the sisters, the brothers, the cousins, the friends.

The loved ones of Maureen, Melissa, Megan and Amber are the victims who have really lost something. They are the ones who should get remaining assets.

MOO