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me.

k So this truck in this photo , is not the same truck as the one they hauled out today someone please tell me why, they also hauled the other truck out from S.C . bY ,now all off us are aware that there are two chevy's right ?
Right? ..please dont pretend I didnt ask this.
2 avalanches ,or I will admit I have had to work a lot since this case broke so If someone else brought it up ,someone send that information to me. I ight have missed it.
I was confused when I saw the article, so I‘m glad you brought this up. Thank you. Are there two different Avalanches?

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Heuermann's Avalanche is seen outside his home in 2007.
Heuermann’s Avalanche is seen outside his home in 2007.
 
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I was confused when I saw the article, so I‘m glad you brought this up. Thank you. Are there two different Avalanches?
I just said there has to be: did you not see that hidden sentence in my post?
 
  • #2,483
me.

k So this truck in this photo , is not the same truck as the one they hauled out today someone please tell me why, they also hauled the other truck out from S.C . bY ,now all off us are aware that there are two chevy's right ?
Right? ..please dont pretend I didnt ask this.
2 avalanches ,or I will admit I have had to work a lot since this case broke so If someone else brought it up ,someone send that information to me. I ight have missed it.

P.s , I hope I am wrong and there is not 2 chevys and a ford but hey ,I been wrong before bring it on ..
From news sources I am am under the impression that: The truck that was hauled away in SC was the truck that RH owned at the time of the Gilgo 4 murders. He replaced that Chevy Avalanche with another Chevy Avalanche - that one was hauled from the Massapeua home last week.

Edited to add: The Chevy hauled from SC may or may not have been on one of the properties owned by RH or his brother CH. I don't know if that has been confirmed in the media yet.
 
  • #2,484
From news sources I am am under the impression that: The truck that was hauled away in SC was the truck that RH owned at the time of the Gilgo 4 murders. He replaced that Chevy Avalanche with another Chevy Avalanche - that one was hauled from the Massapeua home last week.

Edited to add: The Chevy hauled from SC may or may not have been on one of the properties owned by RH or his brother CH. I don't know if that has been confirmed in the media yet.
I know I keep up . I wanted the entire public to be aware these two different trucks are to be considered the same . I need every poster to be aware that there are 2 different trucks. That green suv from bing map images 2008ish guys... keep looking . sleuthing lives matter!/ .might be part of a fleet. we are not there yet. I am trying to not get yeeted out the conversation, When that green suv shows up that will be vehicle number 3 . Thatis not important at the moment .
 
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I can't seem to figure out or have yet to read how RH's wife's hair was at the crime scene, or what is the connection? If his family was out of town during the killings, how did a strand or two of the wife's hair come into play. Is there thoughts that the victims were taken back to the house, or just trying to piece that together. I mean it can lead to a theory that there is more to this story than what we know... Just some thoughts.
Perhaps some of her possessions were stored in the same room as the burlap he used for "duck hunting" and her hair fell on/in it while she was fetching her own things (for the trip she took?). I don't know if we can read into it that the victims were taken to his house. He could quite easily have put some in his car ahead of meeting them, if that was his plan all along.
 
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I know I keep up . I wanted the entire public to be aware these two different trucks are to be considered the same . I need every poster to be aware that there are 2 different trucks. That green suv from bing map images 2008ish guys... keep looking . sleuthing lives matter!/ .might be part of a fleet. we are not there yet. I am trying to not get yeeted out the conversation, When that green suv shows up that will be vehicle number 3 . Thatis not important at the moment .

The images you posted about a few days ago - the images on Google/Bing of these similar vehicles being parked near where the G4 bodies were found... so far I haven't seen these anywhere. I haven't heard of them before. Unfortunately, It's hearsay/rumor right now. It would be important that if they did indeed exist, they get sent to NYSP. Otherwise... this is how rumors start.
 
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The images you posted about a few days ago - the images on Google/Bing of these similar vehicles being parked near where the G4 bodies were found... so far I haven't seen these anywhere. I haven't heard of them before. Unfortunately, It's hearsay/rumor right now. It would be important that if they did indeed exist, they get sent to NYSP. Otherwise... this is how rumors start
Google maps created them.
You can find them.
I agree everything I have told you about these screen shots from google seem elusive and rumor like. But they are somewhere and veryreal . So ,a sad fact of life is things cannot be uncovered if no one knows they are buried . Rumors have a place. Maybe not here. It is not a rumor.
 
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The Tinder Profile was set up in the name “Andy” (Heuermann’s middle name is Andrew), with links to a burner cellphone which was subscribed in the fictitious name of “Andrew Roberts,” using an email account, [email protected]. The [email protected] account was established with AOL on January 15, 2011, in the fictitious name “John Springfield” with an Astoria, Queens, New York zip code, using another burner cellphone.
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What if in 2011, when RH set up the AOL account, he had already 9 victims, therefore the number 9 added to the username "Springfieldman"? Because he seems to be proud of his crimes, it would make sense to me, if he added the number of victims. Nobody would have known, but him. What a thrill.
 
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The food stamp thing is stupid. They stopped making them in the late 80's I think ,so the store should not have been taking them . They could be refering to the EBT card as the goverment issues deposits for that ,but the mintue you said food stamps ,it sounded like BS. Sometime semantics matter. Sometimes they dont. In this case we dont know because ,well our county is being run by people who painted those stamps..
I'm pretty sure they mean the EBT card. MOO
 
  • #2,490
I know I keep up . I wanted the entire public to be aware these two different trucks are to be considered the same . I need every poster to be aware that there are 2 different trucks. That green suv from bing map images 2008ish guys... keep looking . sleuthing lives matter!/ .might be part of a fleet. we are not there yet. I am trying to not get yeeted out the conversation, When that green suv shows up that will be vehicle number 3 . Thatis not important at the moment .
What are the 3 vehicles? The green Avalanche, the black Avalanche, and what's the third? TIA
 
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Google maps created them.
You can find them.
I agree everything I have told you about these screen shots from google seem elusive and rumor like. But they are somewhere and veryreal . So ,a sad fact of life is things cannot be uncovered if no one knows they are buried . Rumors have a place. Maybe not here. It is not a rumor.

Well thats... um... cryptic.
 
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Yeah, they would have put food and water in the trap, so that when the cat got hungry and thirsty enough to venture out of hiding, they would go inside and the gate would shut behind them. 'Trap' sounds scary and violent, and yeah, they do startle when the gate shuts, but it doesn't hurt them at all, just contains them. And then they can safely be removed from that environment and taken to their owner, to a shelter, foster carer, or boarding facility, or to a vet if they want to make sure their condition is okay.

I think every LE department worth their salt has good animal rescue people on speed dial. The animals are not the bad guys, here, and cops are just as likely to be folks who love animals as the rest of us. They want that cat to be safe and out of that environment as much as we do. And let's face it, wrangling animals is a specialist skill not all of us have. A friendly dog, maybe? But what about a python? What about a territorial goat or goose? You can't just shoot your way through, that reads terribly on the evening news, so you ring up your animal person and let them know you've got a live one, and please, can they wrangle the goose because it chased you over a fence and your buddy is laughing at you.

(Okay, so the goose idea is a bit silly, but geese are scary. Ever been chased by one? Those so-and-sos hate everything, but especially people.)

MOO
Yes, I've been chased by a goose, and they are crazy mean and surprisingly fast!
 
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Yes, there was an interview with an interior designer named Katherine Shepard in the DM in which she said she had been invited to RH's house in 2005 to look over and measure the place in preparation for a kitchen reno. She saw the locked basement room and RH told her no one is permitted in there. He said because of the guns.


It's interesting because the first of the G4 wasn't killed until two years later. I wonder if that has implications for the possibility of earlier victims.
That's very interesting and unsettling. I thought I read that he kept all of his guns in a very large safe?? So, indeed, why could she not go down there?
 
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I'm pretty sure they mean the EBT card. MOO
Me too but I cant fiGure out the narritive . No one born after 1978 says food stamps, and Well, WTF.
 
  • #2,495
My guess would be the burlap bags were used in the garden.

JMO
I hope it isn't against advertiser guidelines to bring this up, but have you seen Mindhunter? It's a show "based on the 1995 true-crime book Mindhunter: Inside the FBI's Elite Serial Crime Unit by John E. Douglas and Mark Olshaker" chronicling the creation of the FBI's SK profiler unit. (Cameron Britton's turn as Edward Kemper is beyond amazing.)
What an incredibly well done show that was
 
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From news sources I am am under the impression that: The truck that was hauled away in SC was the truck that RH owned at the time of the Gilgo 4 murders. He replaced that Chevy Avalanche with another Chevy Avalanche - that one was hauled from the Massapeua home last week.

Edited to add: The Chevy hauled from SC may or may not have been on one of the properties owned by RH or his brother CH. I don't know if that has been confirmed in the media yet.
Avalanche siezed in SC was on property owned by the Heuermanns
 
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For one thing, why would a woman in her mid-twenties accept a date from then 49-year-old RH? He wasn't exactly a looker.
I was wondering if she meant "date" rather than a date date .. as in she was in a similar line of work as his other victims.. (or something adjacent like a sugar-daddy thing?) I agree though, if not that it doesn't sound super believable.
 
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I was wondering if she meant "date" rather than a date date .. as in she was in a similar line of work as his other victims.. (or something adjacent like a sugar-daddy thing?) I agree though, if not that it doesn't sound super believable.

My humble opinion is that people who solicit sex workers are generally not "lookers" themselves. This is the only way they get what they want. But I've never ever done that, so I might be ignorant who goes to them.
 
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I was wondering if she meant "date" rather than a date date .. as in she was in a similar line of work as his other victims.. (or something adjacent like a sugar-daddy thing?) I agree though, if not that it doesn't sound super believable.
Me too. I assume thats what she meant especially with the mention of meeting him on a sketchy site. I'm stuck though on what she said about knowing info that wasn't released to the public. I'm hoping if she was following the case that closely and immediately had red flags like she said she did, then she would have made an anon tip. She's sending up my own red flags though :rolleyes:
 
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I was wondering if she meant "date" rather than a date date .. as in she was in a similar line of work as his other victims.. (or something adjacent like a sugar-daddy thing?) I agree though, if not that it doesn't sound super believable.
I was thinking the same thing - specifically the site “seeking arrangements”
I was wondering if she meant "date" rather than a date date .. as in she was in a similar line of work as his other victims.. (or something adjacent like a sugar-daddy thing?) I agree though, if not that it doesn't sound super believable.
When I saw this woman speaking about her date w RH I immediately thought of the website “seeking arrangements” . She was a very attractive woman and RH not so much. IMO this wasn’t a traditional date
 

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