• #2,581
IMHO, it could be one of the two.

First, whether his family might suffer, be removed of the house, etc.

Second, if indeed some buddy was marginally involved (unlikely but can't be excluded), RH hoped that the person would have the guts to remove some clues. Being not a social guy, RH is predictable and hunts where he stays, so the police could sort out who could have helped him, and where. A female companion, statistically, is unlikely, IMHO.
remember he has a "company"... with city contracts- in his "other" life, he has his business reputation to worry about
 
  • #2,582
I thought about business associates. Perhaps it hadn't quite sunk in that he will not be free again and was wondering about his livelihood and how this news would damage it.

jmo
With all those guns (200 guns seized, reports have said... 92 of which were registered) and his reportedly preventing others from seeing the room they were stored in, would it be a stretch to wonder whether his livelihood extends beyond the conventional to include firearms dealing?

It was hard to tell much detail, but in the photos of LE searching the backyard, there was an evidence marker (#2 or #3, IIRC) next to an open toolbox or ammunition box and it looked like that box contained many bundles or wads of something that to my eyes looked like the colors of US currency. Another poster here indicated they thought the same.

If he was an illicit dealer, I would imagine that unwelcome press AND the presence of LE would permanently drive away customers who prefer to transact far from scrutiny (and would probably have past clients worried at this point that he may have documented some connection to them in such a way that LE might find it while searching for evidence related to the murders).
 
  • #2,583
Good point about the guns. Where did he get them?
I dunno but if you get those serials numbers ,I can help you out.
ETA
So many innocent victims here. I didnt even real eyes it..
 
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  • #2,584
Rex Heuermann was a seasonal employee at Jones Beach State Park in [the] summer of 1981 and from 3/05/82 through 10/24/84,”


He was likely working there as a college student, he would have been about 17-20 during this time period, if I am remembering his birth date correctly.
 
  • #2,585
Lots of people were born before 1978.
Yes and probably most of them know what food stamps WERE. it isnt important ,its a fine detail that shows us something without saying it.
 
  • #2,586
With all those guns (200 guns seized, reports have said... 92 of which were registered) and his reportedly preventing others from seeing the room they were stored in, would it be a stretch to wonder whether his livelihood extends beyond the conventional to include firearms dealing?

It was hard to tell much detail, but in the photos of LE searching the backyard, there was an evidence marker (#2 or #3, IIRC) next to an open toolbox or ammunition box and it looked like that box contained many bundles or wads of something that to my eyes looked like the colors of US currency. Another poster here indicated they thought the same.

If he was an illicit dealer, I would imagine that unwelcome press AND the presence of LE would permanently drive away customers who prefer to transact far from scrutiny (and would probably have past clients worried at this point that he may have documented some connection to them in such a way that LE might find it while searching for evidence related to the murders).
Maybe some of the guns were inherited from dad, grandpa.

jmo
 
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Yes and probably most of them know what food stamps WERE. it isnt important ,its a fine detail that shows us something without saying it.
The grocery store clerk who provided the food stamp info also said she watched the kids grow up. Considering the younger of the two children is now 27'ish, I would assume the grocery store clerk was born before 1978. Not sure why this matters at all, tbh.

jmo
 
  • #2,589
I'm surprised. I assumed it would've been earlier (no reason, just a false assumption on my part).

He's 59 and apparently the land was for his retirement. He's a planner.

jmo
 
  • #2,590
I am so glad there has been an arrest made in this case. I have spent years looking at evidence. Speculating with friends, some of whom are cops. A buddy and I have even taken late night rides in the area years ago hoping to find this monster "dumping bodies". As if he was going to go back to same spot to dump more bodies. I am actually surprised he picked that location. It is quite and desolate late at night but a cars headlights would be visible a ways out in either direction. A lot of teens (I was one of them) would takes rides to the area to smoke weed and do other things teens do. We sometimes would play cat and mouse with state troopers/park rangers trying to catch us. He must have went very late at night (12AM to 4AM) when LE activity was non existent. Getting pulled over on Ocean parkway with a body is a very fast and easy way to get caught, especially if you are from Massapequa. I am still wondering if he boated the bodies across the bay. see my map below

There's also a coast guard station very close to where all the bodies were found. One of my theories is the killer was in the coast guard.

The red ex's are where some of bodies were found
the green circle is where the Coast Guard base is
A lot of people use Ocean Parkway to avoid traffic on the Southern State Parkway. At night there would be no traffic. So it would only make sense to drive the Ocean Parkway if you are from the area or doing something in the area. It would make no sense for someone who doesn't live East (right) or West (left) of the two blue arrows I drew. For example if you need to get from freeport to bay shore and the southern state is backed up. You would take the Meadowbrook or Wantagh south to ocean parkway. Take ocean east to Robert moses parkway. Take that back north to the southern state in Bay shore. Massapequa is in between the eastern and western entrances to ocean parkway. Risking getting caught there late night then not having an explanation could trigger a cop to investigate further. Is it possible he boated, following my black line, and carried the bodies ( they are 100 pounds which should be hard for a man his size to carry) a few hundred feet south. Then got back on his boat and went home?

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  • #2,591
Yes and probably most of them know what food stamps WERE. it isnt important ,its a fine detail that shows us something without saying it.
I'm confused, what does it show us ?
 
  • #2,592
The grocery store clerk who provided the food stamp info also said she watched the kids grow up. Considering the younger of the two children is now 27'ish, I would assume the grocery store clerk was born before 1978. Not sure why this matters at all, tbh.

jmo
Well,it may not ever matter but EBT Monies go for 50 cents on the dollar and normaly sex workers money is cash under the table ...so collecting EBT cards ,and pin numbers from phones might have been a thing. Not sure. But I expect it to be a thing in this investigation and that- Rex -out there hooking up in the wilds and all. 20 years he cant be street stupid or it would have been over a long time ago. Just saying.

(black market ebt cards are stable investment if laws do not matter )
 
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I am so glad there has been an arrest made in this case. I have spent years looking at evidence. Speculating with friends, some of whom are cops. A buddy and I have even taken late night rides in the area years ago hoping to find this monster "dumping bodies". As if he was going to go back to same spot to dump more bodies. I am actually surprised he picked that location. It is quite and desolate late at night but a cars headlights would be visible a ways out in either direction. A lot of teens (I was one of them) would takes rides to the area to smoke weed and do other things teens do. We sometimes would play cat and mouse with state troopers/park rangers trying to catch us. He must have went very late at night (12AM to 4AM) when LE activity was non existent. Getting pulled over on Ocean parkway with a body is a very fast and easy way to get caught, especially if you are from Massapequa. I am still wondering if he boated the bodies across the bay. see my map below

There's also a coast guard station very close to where all the bodies were found. One of my theories is the killer was in the coast guard.

The red ex's are where some of bodies were found
the green circle is where the Coast Guard base is
A lot of people use Ocean Parkway to avoid traffic on the Southern State Parkway. At night there would be no traffic. So it would only make sense to drive the Ocean Parkway if you are from the area or doing something in the area. It would make no sense for someone who doesn't live East (right) or West (left) of the two blue arrows I drew. For example if you need to get from freeport to bay shore and the southern state is backed up. You would take the Meadowbrook or Wantagh south to ocean parkway. Take ocean east to Robert moses parkway. Take that back north to the southern state in Bay shore. Massapequa is in between the eastern and western entrances to ocean parkway. Risking getting caught their late night then not having an explanation could trigger a cop to investigate further. Is it possible he boated, following my black line, and carried the bodies ( they are 100 pounds which should be hard for a man his size to carry) a few hundred feet south. Then got back on his boat and went home?

View attachment 435783
If he went by boat and he went by day, is it desolate enough that a "hunter" could carry a duffle bag and not be noticed? Or if a boat went across the bay at night, would that be noticed? I'm assuming the boat would need lights.

I picture him driving in at night with the bodies in back of the Avalanche, but willing to consider other ideas.

jmo
 
  • #2,594
I think this case is one of the most prolific we will see in our lifetime. People will be coming out of the woodwork with their stories about encounters w RH. Are some of these peoples stories legitimate? Absolutely. The media contact people directly knowing their connection with RH. Neighbors, co workers, etc. I can’t imagine working with or living close to this man.

But then we have the randoms. The people media wouldn’t contact, so they go to the media themselves. These people who claim that they “knew something was off”, and even claim to have heard RH mention the murders/chat about the case yet never reported anything to anyone.

Again, I’m not saying all of these stories are BS or sus, but it’s a psychological phenomenon that we’re only seeing in recent years because of social media and it can be dangerous. People’s need to insert and associate themselves with current events/trashed/high media covered cases
 
  • #2,595
I'm confused, what does it show us ?
I think it shows us that we're old, lol.

Born in the 60s and wore plaid pants and ponchos to elementary school in the 70s. :)

jmo
 
  • #2,596
Same and it’s so nice to see the return of all these OG usernames for this case.

How close was @Mountain_Kat back in 2015 !!

 
  • #2,597
The grocery store clerk who provided the food stamp info also said she watched the kids grow up. Considering the younger of the two children is now 27'ish, I would assume the grocery store clerk was born before 1978. Not sure why this matters at all, tbh.

jmo

Wait what RH had footstamps? I thought he was a successful architect. What did I miss?
 
  • #2,598

NY Post, I know, but we now have a former sex worker detailing an unsettling encounter with RH.

I find it incredibly creepy and disturbing that he chose to talk about his own alleged killings on a date. At this point, his dumping grounds had already been discovered. Was he still killing at this point and had found a different dumping ground? He wanted her to go back with him – did he just plan on having sex with her, or did he actually plan on killing her? Was he trying to set the stage for some kind of fantasy by bringing up he killings earlier in the night? Glad she trusted her instinct and hightailed it out of there.

I suspect that more of these stories will be coming out. Women who are still in sex work might be fearful to share any past encounters with him

JMO
 
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  • #2,600
I am so glad there has been an arrest made in this case. I have spent years looking at evidence. Speculating with friends, some of whom are cops. A buddy and I have even taken late night rides in the area years ago hoping to find this monster "dumping bodies". As if he was going to go back to same spot to dump more bodies. I am actually surprised he picked that location. It is quite and desolate late at night but a cars headlights would be visible a ways out in either direction. A lot of teens (I was one of them) would takes rides to the area to smoke weed and do other things teens do. We sometimes would play cat and mouse with state troopers/park rangers trying to catch us. He must have went very late at night (12AM to 4AM) when LE activity was non existent. Getting pulled over on Ocean parkway with a body is a very fast and easy way to get caught, especially if you are from Massapequa. I am still wondering if he boated the bodies across the bay. see my map below

There's also a coast guard station very close to where all the bodies were found. One of my theories is the killer was in the coast guard.

The red ex's are where some of bodies were found
the green circle is where the Coast Guard base is
A lot of people use Ocean Parkway to avoid traffic on the Southern State Parkway. At night there would be no traffic. So it would only make sense to drive the Ocean Parkway if you are from the area or doing something in the area. It would make no sense for someone who doesn't live East (right) or West (left) of the two blue arrows I drew. For example if you need to get from freeport to bay shore and the southern state is backed up. You would take the Meadowbrook or Wantagh south to ocean parkway. Take ocean east to Robert moses parkway. Take that back north to the southern state in Bay shore. Massapequa is in between the eastern and western entrances to ocean parkway. Risking getting caught there late night then not having an explanation could trigger a cop to investigate further. Is it possible he boated, following my black line, and carried the bodies ( they are 100 pounds which should be hard for a man his size to carry) a few hundred feet south. Then got back on his boat and went home?

View attachment 435783

Did they ever put up trail cameras hoping to catch LISK in action?
I know it's a long stretch of beach but curious if they even attempted to catch the killer near his dumping ground. I bet e visited or slowed down often.
 

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