Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023

[minazoe]

LOL, I'm thick; I need a less subtle hint. Who was covering for RH?

Sorry I meant Brewer covering for Rex

 

[sds71]

In a CBS New York exclusive, the sheriff of Suffolk County tells our Jennifer McLogan that some potential key witnesses are in the same jail where Heuermann is being held without bail.

"My staff has interviewed 141 sex workers so far," Suffolk County Sheriff Errol Toulon said.

"So far we've had 12 women that have claimed interactions with Rex Heuermann," Toulon said.

Whether they actually had a physical encounter, was it a phone call, was it through social media. Anything we can gather from them will be very helpful," Toulon said.

Exclusive: Suffolk County sheriff says potential key witnesses in Gilgo Beach murders case are in same jail as suspect Rex Heuermann

The investigation into the Gilgo Beach serial killer has followed suspect Rex Heuermann behind bars.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[Deleted member 117884]

In a CBS New York exclusive, the sheriff of Suffolk County tells our Jennifer McLogan that some potential key witnesses are in the same jail where Heuermann is being held without bail.

"My staff has interviewed 141 sex workers so far," Suffolk County Sheriff Errol Toulon said.

"So far we've had 12 women that have claimed interactions with Rex Heuermann," Toulon said.

Whether they actually had a physical encounter, was it a phone call, was it through social media. Anything we can gather from them will be very helpful," Toulon said.

Exclusive: Suffolk County sheriff says potential key witnesses in Gilgo Beach murders case are in same jail as suspect Rex Heuermann

The investigation into the Gilgo Beach serial killer has followed suspect Rex Heuermann behind bars.

www.cbsnews.com

For number-crunching nerds like me, 8.5% of the sex workers interviewed so far had interactions with RH, or at least claimed to. I think that is significantly high.

Plus, it only takes one with significant info to make a big difference in the case.

jmo

 

[Baby baby Jane]

For number-crunching nerds like me, 8.5% of the sex workers interviewed so far had interactions with RH, or at least claimed to. I think that is significantly high.

Plus, it only takes one with significant info to make a big difference in the case.

jmo

I like the numbers as well, if RH met 2 “new” sex workers a month, over 20 years = 480 !! Probably a conservative number.
A lot of potential witnesses !

 

[Ursamajr]

Also I disagree with the FBI agent on NN last night, who thinks it's not likely this cab driver ran into Rex twice..There aren't that many cabs out there on the island driving late at night. I one hundred percent think he could even call and request her through the dispatcher or somehow find out who she was.

mOO

::snipped by me::
Backing you up on this @minazoe - I know lots of Long Islanders who had a favorite cabbie back in the 90s and 00s back before Lyft/Uber existed. You can hail a random cab in NYC no problem but not on LI. They would call the local dispatch (usually services had a small posts around the LIRR train stations) and request your driver.

 

[Ursamajr]

My mind did go there- especially since RG was friends with Brewer’s accused sex offender priest neighbor. Placa was RG’s friend and employee, Alan Placa.

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all of us right now:

Seriously though, I have a feeling this case is as deep as we all thought yet somehow even deeper than we could imagine.
Unfortunately, I don't see a way there aren't more bodies. Between police coverups and possibly coconspirators, unfettered access to hundreds if not thousands of buildings in various forms of demo/construction, hundreds of weapons, access to boats, multiple properties in multiple states, a possible wife who doesn't want to know...

 

[Just K]

all of us right now:
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Seriously though, I have a feeling this case is as deep as we all thought yet somehow even deeper than we could imagine.
Unfortunately, I don't see a way there aren't more bodies. Between police coverups and possibly coconspirators, unfettered access to hundreds if not thousands of buildings in various forms of demo/construction, hundreds of weapons, access to boats, multiple properties in multiple states, a possible wife who doesn't want to know...

And then there is the great possibility that the corrupt Chief and some of his dirty subordinates had intimate knowledge of RH. It seems they ran in the same circles with similar proclivities.

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[FromGermany1]

And then there is the great possibility that the corrupt Chief and some of his dirty subordinates had intimate knowledge of RH. It seems they ran in the same circles with similar proclivities.

Disgraced Gilgo Beach police chief has a 'history of strangling women on boats'

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Almost same age, bi-sexual, sex addict to the power of ten, violent, advantageous connections. Nice.

 

[Baby baby Jane]

::snipped by me::
Backing you up on this @minazoe - I know lots of Long Islanders who had a favorite cabbie back in the 90s and 00s back before Lyft/Uber existed. You can hail a random cab in NYC no problem but not on LI. They would call the local dispatch (usually services had a small posts around the LIRR train stations) and request your driver.

Knew a guy who moonlighted as cab driver by LIRR station. He was a writer looking for ideas and characters. The dispatch kept log of everything locations, phone numbers & fares. Driver kept little log on a clipboard. Drivers would know a lot of local gossip, who had what visitors, they made deliveries, who and where to buy stuff. Mostly regular long term drivers drivers with lot of regular customers. Constant radio contact with dispatch. You would not take one of these cabs to a murder.

 

[FansBlowing]

I hate that the press keep using Karen Vergatta's grade school pic. She was 34 years old when she died.

 

[FansBlowing]

There was an address for Karen and she had 2 sons.

 

[kevmoley]

This has been the most sordid case I've ever followed.
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along with the Delphi case

 

[Medic4881]

The witness spoke of driving for a cab company out of Sayville, NY. That's not too close to Manorville, but it is close to Heuermann's house. I want to look around that area.

Just checked. Sayville is about halfway between Massapequa and Manorville

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[Medic4881]

Two totally different area. Ocean ave that they are talking about is Suffolk county. Exit 59 on the Long island expressway. Hook creek blvd and jfk are in queens. Far away from ocean ave in Suffolk county ny

That sure sounds possible, especially with the other bodies found there. There probably aren't many places where he could tramp around in the woods.

But is that the location he called the taxi to, or just where he wanted her to drive to?

I also have to give major credit to the taxi driver's dispatcher who it seems took control of the situation, called LE and started yelling at Rex H to get out of the car.

ETA: In the affadavit, the taxi driver says she was called to a little road off Ocean Ave, in Ronkonkoma. Actually, that's over near JFK. Any idea where that might have been? Is Ocean Ave also called Hook Creek Blvd? There are some streets off Ocean Ave that have areas of woods. She said he stepped out of some woods that were at the edge of a parking lot. Across the street there was a residence where people saw what was going on.

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[CuriousCricket]

Been wondering. Perhaps someone local can tell us: The judge on the Heuermann case -- is he elected or appointed? Specifically, is he up for election at the same time Harrison will likely lose his position?

 

[NyxNY]

Been wondering. Perhaps someone local can tell us: The judge on the Heuermann case -- is he elected or appointed? Specifically, is he up for election at the same time Harrison will likely lose his position?

Elected

 

[x_files]

I hate that the press keep using Karen Vergatta's grade school pic. She was 34 years old when she died.

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i noticed that too! She was a beautiful woman, not a child. I wonder why the media keeps using that photo.

 

[Ursamajr]

Knew a guy who moonlighted as cab driver by LIRR station. He was a writer looking for ideas and characters. The dispatch kept log of everything locations, phone numbers & fares. Driver kept little log on a clipboard. Drivers would know a lot of local gossip, who had what visitors, they made deliveries, who and where to buy stuff. Mostly regular long term drivers drivers with lot of regular customers. Constant radio contact with dispatch. You would not take one of these cabs to a murder.

It would be amazing to find out there is a former taxi service owner out there who kept all those records from years ago. I doubt it though, and most of the companies are long gone. I pass the All Island shack that has sat abandoned and boarded up for years now. They had some nice drivers.

Just a thought: one might not take one of these cabs to a murder but one might take the cabbie to their own murder... if the account from the driver/witness is true, Rex knew he could be linked with Shannan through this driver. He was using a fake name and was calling from a hotel that would eventually be court ordered to sell after the owners and employees were found to be running a human trafficking racket.

 

[Ruminations]

The affidavit didnt indicate thats why she was picked up. They said she was homeless and hungry

John Rays comments imply that the narcotics detective swinging boyfriend knew Karen Vergata and picked her up in particular. He said, "We don't know how he knew her" or something to that effect, "but he did and picked her up." I didnt go back for the exact words, but understood his statemenos to mean it wasn't like he picked Karen Vergata up at random on the street. I wonder if they picked her up near her home; they didn't say or imply this.

MOO

 

[Ruminations]

I agree. The witness likely did forget the night over the decades, but the memory wasn't completely gone. Who remembers every encounter decades later? It's just not worth the energy, most of the time, and life moves on.

But, it would be a night that could be recalled with a trigger because it was indeed memorable:

* traveling from the city to Long Island to party/swap

*picking up a homeless hungry woman who needed a shower. That is so incongruent to a pleasant sexual escapade, imo. Isn't not appealing to many, imo, to have sex with someone dirty picked up off the streets (yes, I'm aware some might find that appealing, but I'm thinking the witness did not or she wouldn't remember the dirty/hungry part).

* going all the way to Long Island and then being rebuffed by AE. Even if the "rejection" was mutual, people remember rejection. That is significant, imo, in sealing the memory even in the recesses of the mind.

* leaving poor Vergata is, of course, memorable .

I'm thankful the witness saw Vergata's photo and made the call to tell her story. It's like she had a golden key to unlock a mystery and didn't know it.

Honestly, I think AE's apparent rejection of the witness is significant because it kept the memory from completely disappearing. My opinion only.

jmopinion

Good point about the rejection, which also seemed racial. POC endure more micro aggressions than they can count, sometimes, but it does make the episode more memorable. Rejection and racism.