Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023

[Ruminations]

My impression, at the time, of that presser with J Ray and R Harrison was that Harrison had already decided to “retire” from the task force. It seemed that he was now going to go off the official playbook and introduce an issue that he had tried to pursue but perhaps had been stymied on. At this point he may have felt free to bring the issue of SC investigators previously interfering or deliberately ignoring leads.

I think Rodney did know that it was soon going to be time for him to leave. He had to squeeze this presser in before he was fired.

I think he knew he would face backlash from a powerful minority of old timers in LE who preferred to keep their fiefdom over solving LISK. John Ray and Rodney Harrison have something in common: they want to solve LISK. They both knew the LE tip line rejected and ignored Information that could lead to solving LISK. So, they worked together to make sure the momentum continued after Harrison left as Commissioner.

Rodney Harrison did look uncomfortable. He was probably thinking: did I do this too soon? Probably, they weren't going to fire me before the election. Maybe now I will be greeted with a carton of my family photos from my desk. Maybe now someone will harass my daughter at sports events. I hope I didn't just hasten my departure. On the other hand, if I didn't do this presser now, word might have gotten out ahead of time, and Tierny would have sabotaged it. Good lord, Tierny is already tweeting against me. I'm guess I'm fired, but at least I'm doing everything I can to get some justice for LISK victims. After getting Rex arrested, this presser if the most important thing I can do on this case.

He was stressed out. Because doing the right thing isn't easy.

MOO

 

[Deleted member 117884]

I agree he returned to visit the bodies.

Totally.

jmo

 

[Vern]

A HOLE drilled in her head/neck/hyoid bone?!!!
I hope they find everyone involved because that is disturbing. That's torture and I do not want anyone capable of that level of sadism walking the streets free.

Did the second autopsy actually state that a hole "had been drilled into the hyoid bone" (I suspect that there would be evidence of tool markings/drilling of that hole)? If so, please link to the report.

Or simply that there "was a hole in the hyoid bone"?

Can this be naturally occuring when such a small bone is left in the harsh elements for such a prolonged period of time? I ask this because it's actually a 'thing' in these parts to search for rocks with holes worn into them by the elements and salt water. Those are rocks. Seems to me, that same natural erosion could also easily occur to a small human hyoid bone that is also laying exposed in same enviornmental circumstances in a much quicker timeframe.

Hag Stones / Adder Stones

 

[CuriousCricket]

Interesting take. Harrison left the task force not long afterward, though that could be completely unrelated, idk. I found it very strange that he was there, essentially playing second fiddle when he is not a second-fiddle player in this.

As for the affidavit itself, I will let time tell.

jmo

When Harrison came on board, he knew that most likely his time was short. In an early press conference/interview he made a point of addressing that and saying it was unclear if he would be invited to stay on after the election.

At the time of the Ray interview, IIRC it was probably apparent from the polls that the winner would be someone not likely to reappoint Harrison. With that as my perspective, I've wondered if Harrison's attendance at the PC was to encourage people to know they had someone reliable, someone he trusted, to talk to if they did not want to talk to LE.

 

[BUF]

FOX 5 NY will stream the presser regarding the new developments in the case live at 11:15 a.m. ET.

Attorney: Evidence exists of Rex Heuermann’s family’s involvement in Gilgo Beach murders case

Attorneys accused Gilgo Beach serial killer's daughter of posting disturbing images to social media: "This appears to be the remains of a human who is half-eaten."

www.fox5ny.com

 

[fred&edna]

And, another link...

 

[Izzylizzy]

ugh, I hope not.

I'm trying not to jump to conclusions but it is hard not to first think his wife knew something about his activities.

I'm curious if AE had a confident at times throughout her marriage.

imo:
I think AE had an "open secret" marriage to RH.

 

[x_files]

Did the second autopsy actually state that a hole "had been drilled into the hyoid bone" (I suspect that there would be evidence of tool markings/drilling of that hole)? If so, please link to the report.

Or simply that there "was a hole in the hyoid bone"?

Can this be naturally occuring when such a small bone is left in the harsh elements for such a prolonged period of time? I ask this because it's actually a 'thing' in these parts to search for rocks with holes worn into them by the elements and salt water. Those are rocks. Seems to me, that same natural erosion could also easily occur to a small human hyoid bone that is also laying exposed in same enviornmental circumstances in a much quicker timeframe.

Hag Stones / Adder Stones

I do NOT know the answer at this time, but if I find it I will let you know.

 

[Izzylizzy]

FOX 5 NY will stream the presser regarding the new developments in the case live at 11:15 a.m. ET.

Attorney: Evidence exists of Rex Heuermann’s family’s involvement in Gilgo Beach murders case

Attorneys accused Gilgo Beach serial killer's daughter of posting disturbing images to social media: "This appears to be the remains of a human who is half-eaten."

www.fox5ny.com

Yeah!
Thanks!

 

[Izzylizzy]

And, another link...

Yeah! Yeah!
Thank you too!

 

[Betty P]

I think Rodney did know that it was soon going to be time for him to leave. He had to squeeze this presser in before he was fired.

I think he knew he would face backlash from a powerful minority of old timers in LE who preferred to keep their fiefdom over solving LISK. John Ray and Rodney Harrison have something in common: they want to solve LISK. They both knew the LE tip line rejected and ignored Information that could lead to solving LISK. So, they worked together to make sure the momentum continued after Harrison left as Commissioner.

Rodney Harrison did look uncomfortable. He was probably thinking: did I do this too soon? Probably, they weren't going to fire me before the election. Maybe now I will be greeted with a carton of my family photos from my desk. Maybe now someone will harass my daughter at sports events. I hope I didn't just hasten my departure. On the other hand, if I didn't do this presser now, word might have gotten out ahead of time, and Tierny would have sabotaged it. Good lord, Tierny is already tweeting against me. I'm guess I'm fired, but at least I'm doing everything I can to get some justice for LISK victims. After getting Rex arrested, this presser if the most important thing I can do on this case.

He was stressed out. Because doing the right thing isn't easy.

MOO

JMO, Rodney Harrison has a lot of allies on his "team". He'll likely be rewarded for taking on a stressful and thankless task, going into the lair of the other "team" and helping solve the case. He and the people behind him probably knew what would happen and planned for it. Putting him in charge of a new multi-institutional and jurisdictional task force allowed him to use the NY State Police to circumvent the locals and access the LISK investigation files and evidence and find the killer.

The task force is still in place, the NY State Police and FBI are still involved and the case is moving through the courts. The whole world is watching. Who knows? Rodney may soon come into some support in running for a senate seat or AG or any number of good jobs. JMO

 

[BUF]

JB is live…PC hasn’t started yet

 

[Deleted member 117884]

When Harrison came on board, he knew that most likely his time was short. In an early press conference/interview he made a point of addressing that and saying it was unclear if he would be invited to stay on after the election.

At the time of the Ray interview, IIRC it was probably apparent from the polls that the winner would be someone not likely to reappoint Harrison. With that as my perspective, I've wondered if Harrison's attendance at the PC was to encourage people to know they had someone reliable, someone he trusted, to talk to if they did not want to talk to LE.

Good insight. I think you might be right. jmo

 

[Izzylizzy]

JMO, Rodney Harrison has a lot of allies on his "team". He'll likely be rewarded for taking on a stressful and thankless task, going into the lair of the other "team" and helping solve the case. He and the people behind him probably knew what would happen and planned for it. Putting him in charge of a new multi-institutional and jurisdictional task force allowed him to use the NY State Police to circumvent the locals and access the LISK investigation files and evidence and find the killer.

The task force is still in place, the NY State Police and FBI are still involved and the case is moving through the courts. The whole world is watching. Who knows? Rodney may soon come into some support in running for a senate seat or AG or any number of good jobs. JMO

BBM:

Rodney Harrison, former Suffolk top cop, joins Petrone Risk​

Long Island Business News
https://libn.com › 2024 › May › 16




May 16, 2024 — Rodney Harrison, the former Suffolk County police commissioner, has joined Petrone Risk, a Uniondale-based consulting firm. Harrison is serving ...

 

[dotr]

Did the second autopsy actually state that a hole "had been drilled into the hyoid bone" (I suspect that there would be evidence of tool markings/drilling of that hole)? If so, please link to the report.

Or simply that there "was a hole in the hyoid bone"?

Can this be naturally occuring when such a small bone is left in the harsh elements for such a prolonged period of time? I ask this because it's actually a 'thing' in these parts to search for rocks with holes worn into them by the elements and salt water. Those are rocks. Seems to me, that same natural erosion could also easily occur to a small human hyoid bone that is also laying exposed in same enviornmental circumstances in a much quicker timeframe.

Hag Stones / Adder Stones

So far just this bit about the second autopsy from the lengthy and very informative article from 2023..

Inside the mind of a murderer: New clues in the hunt for the Long Island serial killer

Ten years after the discovery of the first victim of the elusive killer, new evidence and police insights in the biggest unsolved murder case in N.Y. history

www.cbsnews.com

By Erin Moriarty August 4, 2023 rbbm
''Erin Moriarty: What's the first thing that comes to mind when you think about Shannan?
Sherre Gilbert: Her singing. The jokes that we would tell.''
Sherre Gilbert: … at the age of 16, she graduated from high school. She skipped a grade.
Erin Moriarty: Smart then. Really smart.''

''Ray also commissioned a second autopsy. A private forensic pathologist determined that a damaged hyoid bone in Shannan's neck suggested she may have been strangled''.

 

[CuriousCricket]

JMO, Rodney Harrison has a lot of allies on his "team". He'll likely be rewarded for taking on a stressful and thankless task, going into the lair of the other "team" and helping solve the case. He and the people behind him probably knew what would happen and planned for it. Putting him in charge of a new multi-institutional and jurisdictional task force allowed him to use the NY State Police to circumvent the locals and access the LISK investigation files and evidence and find the killer.

The task force is still in place, the NY State Police and FBI are still involved and the case is moving through the courts. The whole world is watching. Who knows? Rodney may soon come into some support in running for a senate seat or AG or any number of good jobs. JMO

I've wondered how much pride played into the hiring of Harrison. IIRC, the man who hired him would be leaving office at the end of the term and could not run again because of term / time limits. Perhaps he was unwilling to leave office with the biggest case of his life unsolved. As his term dwindled down, he brought Harrison on board to solve the case while he was still in office.

 

[Izzylizzy]

JMO, Rodney Harrison has a lot of allies on his "team". He'll likely be rewarded for taking on a stressful and thankless task, going into the lair of the other "team" and helping solve the case. He and the people behind him probably knew what would happen and planned for it. Putting him in charge of a new multi-institutional and jurisdictional task force allowed him to use the NY State Police to circumvent the locals and access the LISK investigation files and evidence and find the killer.

The task force is still in place, the NY State Police and FBI are still involved and the case is moving through the courts. The whole world is watching. Who knows? Rodney may soon come into some support in running for a senate seat or AG or any number of good jobs. JMO

Indeed, "the whole world is watching" and Harrison certainly put the new Police Commissioner Robert Waring and Ray Tierney
on notice.

 

[Vaderman]

I have a feeling I'm going to regret cutting out of something else to watch this press conference. I never learn when it comes to these things lol.

 

[Izzylizzy]

Yeah! Yeah!
Thank you too!

View live at the scene and reporter commenting as it unfolds.
Taking questions from chat etc.

 

[Megnut]

Presser:

So far he's introducing an expert and underscoring he's not making money...

His bombshell involves one of RH's children

Jmo