Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023

[DS2021]

Hes turning this into a circus. Its time for him to step back. This is absolutely pointless

 

[Ruminations]

Now an image viewed by VH... figure hanging, missing a shoe.

Suggesting father and daughter share a fetish.

Or, a daughter is working through knowing her father's fetishes.

MOO

 

[DS2021]

Why is this not a tip to the tip line in the event they'd any tie to actual crime?

Because JR wouldn't get to jump up in front of a camera if he did that

 

[Megnut]

JR says her hairs were found on bodies. Is that true? Did I hear him right? I thought they were his wife's.

Jmo

 

[sds71]

For the first time in this case, prosecutors revealed that a hair sample from Heuermann’s daughter, Victoria, was found on Gilgo Beach victim Amber Costello.

“If I live with somebody, their DNA is all over me—their hair, their clothing fibers,” said Michael Alcazar, retired NYPD detective and adjunct professor at John Jay College of Criminal Justice. “In this case, Heuermann brought that DNA potentially, this is what they're trying to prove, to the crime scene and to the victims’ bodies. That's very damning evidence.”

Court records: DNA from suspected Gilgo Beach killer’s wife, daughter recovered from victims’ bodies

Through a forensic analysis of a hair found on the belt buckle used to restrain victim Maureen Brainard-Barnes’s body, detectives obtained nuclear DNA results that they said are nearly identical to Asa Ellerup, Heuermann’s wife.

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[indicolite22]

All John Ray's press conference has done is made me side eye my graphic novel collection and wonder if someone will ever be calling me a cannibal one day. The Killing Joke alone should land me in a padded room according to John Ray!
Also, I will be "walking amongst us" with my gothy black clothes later and just letting ya'll know, I don't plan on hurting anyone. I just need some oat milk. Don't judge me.

Anyone else pick up the irony of John Ray and his circus ringmaster attire (I dig it!) trying to hint we should be judging others on their clothing choices?

Unusual clothing choices are less harmful than obsession with torture porn.

 

[fred&edna]

Expert is citing cases where family members did assist murdering parents. He says there's enough evidence so far that the behavior should be looked at closely.

The expert is using the German pronunciation of Rex's name - "Hoyer-mon". Source, I asked a German.

Participation isn't impossible (forced or coerced)... but, I certainly don't want to go that far.

A LE professional with credentials similar to Dr B should have interviewed all family members before this.

jmo

 

[Dre]

That “art” is beyond anything I could imagine, literally speechless. Her obsession with cannibalism puts it over the top.

Shame on Rex for raising his child to be his prodigy, actively participating or not. Absolutely diabolical, what an unexpected twist that makes me want to weep

 

[Ruminations]

I find this mutual (RH&VH) interest in serious gore p**n beyond disturbing.

What are the percentages of family members living in same household enjoying this gore p**n. How common is this love for gore p**n... is it 1 in 3 US households who engage in committing (as well as visually enjoying / creating this)??

jmo

To be fair, we don't know if anyone other than Rex (allegedly, based on anecdotes and bail documents) enjoyed this kind of thing.

There is no reason to think VH is sadistic or enjoys this.

But the thought that she knows nothing is out the window.

MOO

 

[TTF14]

JR says her hairs were found on bodies. Is that true? Did I hear him right? I thought they were his wife's.

Jmo

I thought so too but I'm far from an expert on the details in this case. I may have heard "Victoria" and assumed it was his wife since I don't even know their names.

 

[iamshadow21]

Wasn't VH barely a teenager when the last known murder pinned to her father took place?

Yep, she was a literal child.

He's kink shaming someone who is not connected to any crime except by way of having a family member who did very bad things, for which he is awaiting trial.

There are plenty of people who are furries. There are plenty who like vore art. The vast majority of those have never and will never commit a violent crime.

Many people also create art for fandom and kink communities, ESPECIALLY furries. Furries love having art made of their fursonas, and have a reputation for being generous, considerate customers towards the artists they commission, which, as the partner of a fan artist, let me tell you is FAR from the norm. Too many people out there want something for nothing, and furries as a community are known to be better than the average to work with.

Just because someone does furry or vore fanart doesn't necessarily mean it's their personal kink, just that that's where they have an audience.

I'm done with Ray. He's lost whatever credibility he had in my eyes.

MOO

 

[TTF14]

Maybe all of Rex's notes were a guide for her...maybe he was preparing to teach the next generation.

 

[Megnut]

MOO

Maybe RH didn't always keep his double life separate.

I know adults who are just now trying to work through childhood SA....

What if the abuse you're trying to work through is what you saw as a very young child?

Ugh. My stomach hurts.

No one picks having a father who is a serial killer, and one of this level. He's horrific, demonic.

JMO

 

[fred&edna]

Hes turning this into a circus. Its time for him to step back. This is absolutely pointless

I strongly disagree. Kinks, fetishes and BDSM aren't a problem unless your daddy is torturing and murdering women in the home. The task force needed a psych pro to question family members long before now... not to prosecute but to at least offer help. I'm not in favor of keeping this family gore p**n continuing on.

jmo

 

[indicolite22]

To be fair, we don't know if anyone other than Rex (allegedly, based on anecdotes and bail documents) enjoyed this kind of thing.

There is no reason to think VH is sadistic or enjoys this.

But the thought that she knows nothing is out the window.

MOO

John Ray claims that VH created the sadistic art herself.

 

[DS2021]

I think the distinction should be made that the majority of the explicit images found in RHs devices was of real people, whereas VHs is all drawings.

 

[Ruminations]

Wasn't VH barely a teenager when the last known murder pinned to her father took place?

Potentially, she was horrifically traumatized. She was possibly conceived the night Karen Vergata was murdered. (Excuse me while I vomit.)

But in addition to the trauma and victimization, she knows something.

She shouldn't be selling that to Peacock.

MOO

 

[TTF14]

Yep, she was a literal child.

He's kink shaming someone who is not connected to any crime except by way of having a family member who did very bad things, for which he is awaiting trial.

There are plenty of people who are furries. There are plenty who like vore art. The vast majority of those have never and will never commit a violent crime.

Many people also create art for fandom and kink communities, ESPECIALLY furries. Furries love having art made of their fursonas, and have a reputation for being generous, considerate customers towards the artists they commission, which, as the partner of a fan artist, let me tell you is FAR from the norm. Too many people out there want something for nothing, and furries as a community are known to be better than the average to work with.

Just because someone does furry or vore fanart doesn't necessarily mean it's their personal kink, just that that's where they have an audience.

I'm done with Ray. He's lost whatever credibility he had in my eyes.

MOO

I can appreciate your perspective, but I don't think it excludes what we just learned from possibly being significant. One bad apple is still a bad apple even if it manages to not ruin the whole bunch.

IMO MOO

 

[Just K]

And, another link...

Holy #***t. The only thing, that I would question, did RH or Asa set up the Tumbler acct and the only part VH was involved in was being forced/groomed into viewing such images or actual victims and viviolence - leading to her own violent paintings.

 

[TTF14]

MOO

Maybe RH didn't always keep his double life separate.

I know adults who are just now trying to work through childhood SA....

What if the abuse you're trying to work through is what you saw as a very young child?

Ugh. My stomach hurts.

No one picks having a father who is a serial killer, and one of this level. He's horrific, demonic.

JMO

Right. I look forward to reading her book someday (my assumption/hope she will write one). The things Rex has done are terrible and there's no reason to doubt he might have been trying to raise a prodigy to continue his legacy.

IMO MOO