Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023

[Onlyguessing23]

Another thing, relooking at the HK 2002-2004 document “blueprint” in the PREP section he lists CROSS BAR. Maybe part of a setup for his truck?

 

[eishish]

I looked -to the best of my ability - for anything with this sequence in NY building codes. Nothing.

I know nothing about guns, but 8672 is a Ruger model.

Yes, like the 9mm, the knife, and this. Will correlate later. So good

 

[snooptroop88]

I looked -to the best of my ability - for anything with this sequence in NY building codes. Nothing.

I know nothing about guns, but 8672 is a Ruger model.

Hotel room number, maybe? In a mix of numbers, maybe a room 72 where the murder occurred 8/6?

 

[GoBuckeyes]

So many of the places for hunting very close. Believe you have max 3 hours. Enough time. Surely he wld not multi use a swing, deer, person hoist...ugh. the chains my have been removed for dna, but wheres the two person swing or swings...and the eyes for the ropes, evidence possibly..dna certainly would transfer. Ground collected for blood? We have a month to see him again and any news, or sooner. That bluprint sure has been gone over here. Completely

Three hours is a decent amount of time. But even using a large four wheeler with a rack or a deer dolly to transport the deer to a waiting truck, it's incredibly laborious and rather time consuming. Maybe his hunting mates are fitter than RH, idk??

How large is the back yard? If he did dress the deer at home, I wonder if he got a big kick out of freaking out the neighbors?

This case is so disturbing. I'm convinced that they've just scratched the surface. I hope the breaks in the case keep coming.

 

[GoBuckeyes]

On a hunch, I tried to find a murder victim whose birthday was 080672. I have ruled out Karen Vergata, Rita, Colleen, Sandra, Valerie Mack, and the GB4 as well as Jessica. I looked at missing/murdered cases for LI 1992- thinking that he might kill a 20 year old. I have yet to find anyone. That number meant something to him because he used it as a fictitious birthday for Andy Roberts to get the Hunter email as well as part of the thawk080672 email account.
My guess, if I were to speculate, would be whoever this date refers to could be the B-day for his first murder victim. Or it’s a date that he first witnessed a murder. He would’ve been about 10 or 11 on August 6, 1972. Then again, maybe it was his first big hunting trip. I’ll keep digging.

When is AE's birthday?

 

[FromGermany1]

When is AE's birthday?

I don't know her birthday, but when RH got arrested, afaik she was 59yo. Can't be born in 1972.

 

[FromGermany1]

Here’s an interesting tidbit. A Derrick Decker was associated with his mom’s 18 Zephyr Rd address in Palmyra, VA. https://www.fastpeoplesearch.com/address/18-zephyr-rd_palmyra-va-22963

Maybe the "Derrick", RH had taken to or from the airport (in his notes)?

 

[FromGermany1]

Anyone can edit imdb

Interesting to know. Thanks!

 

[eishish]

I looked -to the best of my ability - for anything with this sequence in NY building codes. Nothing.

I know nothing about guns, but 8672 is a Ruger model.

Heckler koch knife hk2002, there is a glock reference, also id'd was a heckler koch 9mm handgun along with this ruger 8672! It fits in with hunter, hit, Andy, sandbaggers aka misleaders. All relates to him/ his interests. Great id imo, moo

 

[eishish]

Three hours is a decent amount of time. But even using a large four wheeler with a rack or a deer dolly to transport the deer to a waiting truck, it's incredibly laborious and rather time consuming. Maybe his hunting mates are fitter than RH, idk??

How large is the back yard? If he did dress the deer at home, I wonder if he got a big kick out of freaking out the neighbors?

This case is so disturbing. I'm convinced that they've just scratched the surface. I hope the breaks in the case keep coming.

Cannot even imagine the info le is unloading. 3 weeks and he is back in court. Give us some more info to tackle.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Tidbits from lengthy article.

NY Firefighter: How I Realized My Neighbor Was a Suspected Serial Killer

Firefighter Etienne de Villiers spent three decades living next door to Rex Heuermann, who would later become notorious as the suspected Gilgo Beach serial killer.

www.thedailybeast.com

Michael Daly​

Jul. 06, 2024
''Heuermann invariably made reference to his size.

“Every time, you’d talk to the guy, he’d throw that in; ‘Me being six-five, 250,’” de Villiers recalled.''
Heuermann asked de Villiers several times if he played cards. De Villiers lied and said no.''

''De Villiers recalled that Heuermann had two or three friends who came by occasionally early on, but they were scruffier than typical Massapequa residents, many of whom are cops and other firefighters.
“They seemed a pretty low life type,” de Villiers said. “You could pick them up and put them in a trailer park.”

''During a few random encounters, de Villiers found Craig to be “a nasty and mean *advertiser censored*.” Heuermann was by the firefighter’s experience “kind of a wuss.”

''He saw Christopher preparing to cut it with an antiquated rotary mower that looked considerably older than Christopher himself.
De Villiers had learned over the years that the son was not fond of physical labor, and the lawn seemed a challenge. The firefighter’s heart went out to the son of the accused serial killer.''

The article is a very good read. Kindof a strange mix of all the murders, but some ...real...upfront and personal from the next door neighbor.
The neighbor does provide some sense of "caring" over all his years living there.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Cannot even imagine the info le is unloading. 3 weeks and he is back in court. Give us some more info to tackle.

AND, only one week for our one year celebration of Rex-Arrest.

 

[eishish]

Another thing, relooking at the HK 2002-2004 document “blueprint” in the PREP section he lists CROSS BAR. Maybe part of a setup for his truck?

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Yes, that is great. I just thought crossbar for table

 

[Onlyguessing23]

Yes, that is great. I just thought crossbar for table

Me too, but then he also has BUILD TABLE listed under PREP. I would think that would include a cross bar if it needed one, and he wouldn’t list it separately… for the table. But, who knows.

 

[Rush4087]

Another thing, relooking at the HK 2002-2004 document “blueprint” in the PREP section he lists CROSS BAR. Maybe part of a setup for his truck?

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I think when he wrote “cross bar” he may have meant “spreader bar”

Jmo

 

[FromGermany1]

I think when he wrote “cross bar” he may have meant “spreader bar”

Jmo

Do you think of that:
Softly padded leather cuffs, fixed on a metal bar. Bar telescopically extendable from 35 to 60 cm.
(spreading the legs at ankle height)
ETA: Maybe, it is possible to install it on a table?

 

[Vaderman]

I hope the police searched every inch of that structure for DNA as well as the ground under the covered tree area.

I would be very surprised if the police haven't done a thorough inspection of every aspect of this guy's life.

 

[Ruminations]

I would be very surprised if the police haven't done a thorough inspection of every aspect of this guy's life.

I hope the police have done a thorough inspection of every aspect of that guy's life.

Unfortunately, I wouldn't be too surprised to find that corners were cut, being that it took so long to identify him, there seemed to be a concerted social media effort to stop charging at the gilgo 3/4 (Trollish posts like "What's the point of charging more? He's already never coming out of jail anyway?" Seemed ubiquitous), the DA has been biased rather than neutral on witnesses, attacking John Ray and exonerating Rex's family in a contrived way, rather than simply saying they are cooperating and they are not subjects or suspects at this time.

I would have a lot more optimism about the robustness of the investigation if there was not a bizarre, intense, and inaccurate campaign against John Ray. John Ray has never presented false information. John Ray has provided extremely valuable information. He is embraced by the person who put together the task force that identified Rex as a suspect and arrested him as a defendant.

I don't understand how anyone can be on the side of solving LISK, yet reject John Ray wholesale. John Ray has only added information and never given incorrect information. He shares it with law enforcement.

One crucial information that John Ray has brought us is that the family were not in Atlantic City the same dates the DA first presented. This may not mean anything. Just because a person is not in Atlantic City does not make them a murderer. But a fullsome investigation embraces that kind of information an incorporates in into neutral following of facts. I have mostly seen incredible progress by the task force, but I get worried when relevant information is pushed to the side. I want to be confident that facts are being chased.

When I see a balanced approach to John Ray and witnesses, I will start to believe that there is a fullsome investigation from all parts of the task force.

MOO

 

[Izzylizzy]

Interesting.

7 were arrested and "at least" two had their job assignment modified. The duration of that is not clear.

There is a statement thanking the internal affairs department for the swift action and holding sworn officers to a high standard. But it doesn't sound like most of the officers, who were not named, faced serious difficulties.

Providing protection for traffickers sounds to me pretty serious, even if as a courtesy. Providing protection for pay, the more likely scenario, sounds even more serious.

There might have been more action taken later than this news piece. But if this was the end of the story, that looks like a hand slap for allowing or possible profiting from human trafficking.

It is considerable later in time than Karen Vergata's visit to the Heuermann home, but there are consistent themes with the affidavit of the swinger.

MOO

They're named here in NYTs and in ABC7News article it says many of the women are from Central America.

NYTs
7 New York Police Officers Arrested in Prostitution and Gambling Investigation, Authorities Say (Published 2018)

7 NYPD officers arrested in connection with prostitution ring

The suspects -- three sergeants, two detectives and two officers -- are believed to have been providing protection for the operation of a prostitution and gambling ring.

abc7news.com

 

[iamshadow21]

My thoughts went to … young man cutting grass is maybe not safe with power mower. Can’t really cut of fingers or feet with the old manual mower. And it’s a good workout.

I've had one of those. The spinning blades aren't really safe...

I think it was more about being cheap, but also about being a sadist. Why buy a mower when he could force his son to toil for hours using an antiquated device.

MOO