Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023

[Passeridae]

Im hoping we will see an in depth search of the South Conduit. Im also hoping genetic genealogy is being down on the unidentified victims tied to the lisk investigation (Peaches, baby doe, and Asian Doe)
Along with some of the other cases we've discussed (Cherries, Lattingtown Jane Doe, Muttontown Jane Doe, the 2 remainingManorville John Does, and both the Asian male Does, that Mary Murphy mentioned) i believe LE has said Cherries is being worked on.

Im wondering if theres any progress on the Nevada DNA comparisons

It definitely is. That's how they identified Valerie and Karen, and they've given some clues that they used this to try and trace Peaches, but hit some kind of road block among her immediate blood relatives. But they were seeking relatives of hers a couple of years ago: Family of Alabama man who died in 1963 may have info on New York serial killer victims: FBI

 

[Betty P]

Im hoping we will see an in depth search of the South Conduit. Im also hoping genetic genealogy is being down on the unidentified victims tied to the lisk investigation (Peaches, baby doe, and Asian Doe)
Along with some of the other cases we've discussed (Cherries, Lattingtown Jane Doe, Muttontown Jane Doe, the 2 remainingManorville John Does, and both the Asian male Does, that Mary Murphy mentioned) i believe LE has said Cherries is being worked on.

Im wondering if theres any progress on the Nevada DNA comparisons

I'm pretty sure Peaches DNA has been tested, but they were unable to come up with a close relative who could identify her.

Is The FBI Close to IDing Peaches, Baby Doe in Gilgo Case?

Investigators appear to be one step closer to identifying a woman and her young child whose murders have been unsolved for 25 years and were linked to the gruesome Gilgo Beach murders.

www.longislandpress.com

Gilgo Beach victim ‘Peaches’ may have link to Alabama man | 1010 WINS

One of the unidentified victims of the Gilgo Beach serial killer may have a connection to a man in Alabama. | 1010 WINS

www.audacy.com

Some families don't have many members who've taken DNA tests or have theirs in a database.

 

[iamshadow21]

I'm pretty sure Peaches DNA has been tested, but they were unable to come up with a close relative who could identify her.

Is The FBI Close to IDing Peaches, Baby Doe in Gilgo Case?

Investigators appear to be one step closer to identifying a woman and her young child whose murders have been unsolved for 25 years and were linked to the gruesome Gilgo Beach murders.

www.longislandpress.com

Gilgo Beach victim ‘Peaches’ may have link to Alabama man | 1010 WINS

One of the unidentified victims of the Gilgo Beach serial killer may have a connection to a man in Alabama. | 1010 WINS

www.audacy.com

Some families don't have many members who've taken DNA tests or have theirs in a database.

Yeah, Peaches' case is in the same situation as Kelly (El Dorado Jane Doe) was, as far as I know. Kelly was a result of an encounter or relationship outside a marriage. Her close relatives said that she strongly resembled their family, but they had no idea who she was. They called her Memory amongst themselves until she was finally, conclusively identified. If Kelly could be identified, Peaches can be, too. Whether through her own family tree, or the family tree of her daughter. It's just going to take time.

MOO

 

[Teche]

I absolutely agree, but I think a few people are still hung up on the difference in how Asian Doe was killed. But personally I agree, and I think law enforcement does too or they would have held back those searches. They suspect him and they want him and the public to know they suspect him imo.

The dismemberment, finding remains in two places, and proximity of Valerie to Jessica in Manorville and to Baby Peaches on Gilgo Beach offer some much stronger connections between those four victims. Karen is the other where the connection is slightly weaker, but if one person is responsible for three dismembered women found on Ocean Parkway the odds are high he is responsible for the fourth.

But yeah, I do personally think Heuermann killed Asian Doe. I also think he probably killed at least two of the Manorville men (one unidentified, one ID'd but identity not yet released due to request from family, both found fairly near Valerie and Jessica's sites) and possibly Sugar Bear as well, and if he is ever conclusively linked to any of those four victims, there's a man who was found murdered on Staten Island that I hope they also consider.

And I hope he's also being looked at for some of the Belt Parkway murders in Brooklyn.

Rex is evil. But, when it comes to Baby Peaches, he’s beyond evil.

 

[iamshadow21]

Rex is evil. But, when it comes to Baby Peaches, he’s beyond evil.

Yeah, it's always a hard thing when I hope that a baby was smothered quickly rather than thrown alive into brambles to die of exposure. But here we are.

MOO

 

[TOMBISHOP]

Good morning everyone, I have been absent for a month or more due to surgery, since as you can imagine I have a lot of pages to catch up on, is there any of you kind enough to update me on the news in this last month, I know there was also a another court hearing at the end of July, has anything new come to light or have any of you brought anything interesting to attention?! Thank you all for your contribution to keep me updated

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Goodling’s involvement in the case highlights the brutal reality of the crimes Heuermann is accused of committing. Goodling worked as a sex worker in New York during the late 1990s and early 2000s, a period when Heuermann is alleged to have been planning his heinous acts. She had multiple arrests, two of which occurred in 2002 near Heuermann's former office, raising questions about whether their paths might have crossed.

The second phone number found in the document, a pager number, remains unverified. Investigators are continuing their efforts to determine its relevance to the case. According to authorities, Heuermann used the planning document between 2000 and 2002, outlining his methods for carrying out his crimes and evading law enforcement. The document included phone numbers associated with individuals identified as "Megan?" and "Target 1," which may refer to Goodling, though her mother, Cindy Fitt, has stated she does not recall her daughter using the name Megan.

Gilgo Beach Murder Investigation Links Suspect's Planning Document to Former Bronx Sex Worker

Investigators have made a significant connection in the Gilgo Beach murder case, linking one of the phone numbers listed in an alleged planning document belonging to Rex A. Heuermann, the prime suspect, to a former Bronx sex worker. This discovery sheds new light on the case, ...

audioboom.com

 

[imstilla.grandma]

The alleged planning document had been deleted in 2002 from Heuermann's computer but was recovered from a device seized from his Massapequa Park home last summer, prosecutors have said. Its content was recovered early this year, prosecutors said.

Former FBI profiler Gregg McCrary said the fantasy for many previously convicted serial killers is to keep victims alive for torture to enjoy their reaction to pain. Killing is often secondary to the crucial goal of captivity, he said.

"The more interaction they can have is the payoff for them," McCrary said. "They want to keep them alive as long as they can, reasonably. Killing is what they have to do at the end to not be discovered."

Gilgo Beach killings: Accused killer Rex Heuermann sought to keep victims alive to enhance sadistic pleasures, investigators say

Rex Heuermann's alleged planning document lays out his desire to keep victims alive as long as possible, with references to torture, captivity, noise control and "play time." An FBI profiler analyzes the details.

www.newsday.com

*I hate this man's face. Sorry not sorry

 

[Cool Cats]

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The alleged planning document had been deleted in 2002 from Heuermann's computer but was recovered from a device seized from his Massapequa Park home last summer, prosecutors have said. Its content was recovered early this year, prosecutors said.

Former FBI profiler Gregg McCrary said the fantasy for many previously convicted serial killers is to keep victims alive for torture to enjoy their reaction to pain. Killing is often secondary to the crucial goal of captivity, he said.

"The more interaction they can have is the payoff for them," McCrary said. "They want to keep them alive as long as they can, reasonably. Killing is what they have to do at the end to not be discovered."

Gilgo Beach killings: Accused killer Rex Heuermann sought to keep victims alive to enhance sadistic pleasures, investigators say

Rex Heuermann's alleged planning document lays out his desire to keep victims alive as long as possible, with references to torture, captivity, noise control and "play time." An FBI profiler analyzes the details.

www.newsday.com

*I hate this man's face. Sorry not sorry

So horrible I can't stomach reading the article right now. I cannot wait for that smug smirk on his face to be wiped off at his trial.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

 

[Betty P]

Also in the past month

Asa showed up in court with Rex's dog

Gilgo Beach suspect’s wife — and family dog — in court to support accused serial killer

Asa Ellerup, the dutiful wife of accused Long Island killer Rex Heuermann, showed up in a Long Island courtroom Tuesday cuddling up with a scraggly emotional support dog named Stewie.

nypost.com

Attorney claims graphic ‘evidence’ suggests accused Gilgo Beach serial killer did not live ‘double life’

No members of Rex Heuermann’s family have been charged with crimes in relation to the case

au.news.yahoo.com

 

[Forest_Wood]

Also in the past month

Asa showed up in court with Rex's dog

Gilgo Beach suspect’s wife — and family dog — in court to support accused serial killer

Asa Ellerup, the dutiful wife of accused Long Island killer Rex Heuermann, showed up in a Long Island courtroom Tuesday cuddling up with a scraggly emotional support dog named Stewie.

nypost.com

Attorney claims graphic ‘evidence’ suggests accused Gilgo Beach serial killer did not live ‘double life’

No members of Rex Heuermann’s family have been charged with crimes in relation to the case

au.news.yahoo.com

I thought the dog was the son Christopher's? That's what the media suggested previously. And now we see AE bringing the dog to court as a service animal. That seems a lot of burden on this poor animal to tend to this entire family's emotional trauma.
MOO.

 

[james.coff]

I thought the dog was the son Christopher's? That's what the media suggested previously. And now we see AE bringing the dog to court as a service animal. That seems a lot of burden on this poor animal to tend to this entire family's emotional trauma.
MOO.

I thought the same when I saw her in court! Hmmm

 

[GoBuckeyes]

Also in the past month

Asa showed up in court with Rex's dog

Gilgo Beach suspect’s wife — and family dog — in court to support accused serial killer

Asa Ellerup, the dutiful wife of accused Long Island killer Rex Heuermann, showed up in a Long Island courtroom Tuesday cuddling up with a scraggly emotional support dog named Stewie.

nypost.com

Attorney claims graphic ‘evidence’ suggests accused Gilgo Beach serial killer did not live ‘double life’

No members of Rex Heuermann’s family have been charged with crimes in relation to the case

au.news.yahoo.com

I didn't know the dog was Rex's!! That's cruel to do to the dog, imoo.

 

[GoBuckeyes]

Also in the past month

Asa showed up in court with Rex's dog

Gilgo Beach suspect’s wife — and family dog — in court to support accused serial killer

Asa Ellerup, the dutiful wife of accused Long Island killer Rex Heuermann, showed up in a Long Island courtroom Tuesday cuddling up with a scraggly emotional support dog named Stewie.

nypost.com

Attorney claims graphic ‘evidence’ suggests accused Gilgo Beach serial killer did not live ‘double life’

No members of Rex Heuermann’s family have been charged with crimes in relation to the case

au.news.yahoo.com

Have Rex's extended family ever given any statements about him or the investigation? Just curious. TIA

 

[dotr]

Have Rex's extended family ever given any statements about him or the investigation? Just curious. TIA

Sister-in-law of suspect in Gilgo Beach murders 'stunned' and in 'profound' disbelief

"This disbelief alone is profound and altering," said the sister-in-law of Rex Heuermann, who was charged last week in three murders.

www.nbcnews.com

2023
''Dr. Johanna Ellerup, Heuermann's sister-in-law, said in an email to NBC News on Friday that she is
"stunned" and "this disbelief alone is profound and altering."

"I vacillate between desperately wanting my niece and nephew’s life returned to its previous state, intact, without a father accused of being a serial killer to being pleased and secure in knowing that someone is in custody," Ellerup said.

Rex Heuermann’s sister-in-law says family going ‘through a uniquely difficult time’

‘My ego has great difficulty processing the idea that I looked Rex in the eye and was unable to discern any murderous intentions,’ Dr Johanna Ellerup told NBC News

www.independent.co.uk

“My ego has great difficulty processing the idea that I looked Rex in the eye and was unable to discern any murderous intentions.”

 

[I am not Sherlock H.]

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The alleged planning document had been deleted in 2002 from Heuermann's computer but was recovered from a device seized from his Massapequa Park home last summer, prosecutors have said. Its content was recovered early this year, prosecutors said.

Former FBI profiler Gregg McCrary said the fantasy for many previously convicted serial killers is to keep victims alive for torture to enjoy their reaction to pain. Killing is often secondary to the crucial goal of captivity, he said.

"The more interaction they can have is the payoff for them," McCrary said. "They want to keep them alive as long as they can, reasonably. Killing is what they have to do at the end to not be discovered."

Gilgo Beach killings: Accused killer Rex Heuermann sought to keep victims alive to enhance sadistic pleasures, investigators say

Rex Heuermann's alleged planning document lays out his desire to keep victims alive as long as possible, with references to torture, captivity, noise control and "play time." An FBI profiler analyzes the details.

www.newsday.com

*I hate this man's face. Sorry not sorry

This might have already been researched and addressed….. and I admit asking just telegraphs I am behind on this case…. and yes, I am….. but anyway……

Intrigued that the planning document was deleted circa 2002……. wondering the significance of that date and other possible factors.

Is there rationale for why that occurred? Why then? Was the computer being sold or disposed? Change in RH modus operandi? Document being transferred to another computer? Change in his family situation? Maybe someone discover it? Some other external factor for RH? MOO

 

[imstilla.grandma]

“His intent was specifically to locate these victims, to hunt them down, to bring them under his control and to kill them,” said Suffolk County District Attorney Ray Tierney.

The Microsoft Word document was recovered using a computer forensic extraction method. It was found in an “unallocated space,” which means someone had deleted it. A forensic analysis concluded that the document was created in 2000 and had been modified between 2001 and 2002.

It allegedly references slayings that prosecutors believe likely happened inside Heuermann’s Massapequa Park home. It notes steps to take “next time,” such as “hit harder” and “consider a hit to the face or neck for takedown.”

Under a list labeled as “SUPPLIES,” Heuermann allegedly wrote down cutting tools, acid, hair nets, and tarps.

“We allege that the methodology, that the exact method by which these murders were committed in excruciating detail in that document, is in some cases identical to the methodology used to murder the six victims in this case,” Tierney said.

Heuermann allegedly listed Mill Road on the document, an area in Manorville where police first found partial remains of Gilgo Beach victims Valerie Mack and Jessica Taylor, as a potential dumping site.

Prosecutors said Heuermann’s planning document included a list labeled “BODY PREP." It states tasks such as “remove head and hands, remove trace DNA and remove ID marks [like] tattoos.”

The contents are consistent with the condition of Mack and Taylor’s remains in 2000 and 2003. Their torsos were discovered in Manorville and more of their remains were found along Ocean Parkway in 2011. Also, Taylor’s tattoo had been mutilated in, what investigators believed at the time, an attempt by her killer to cover up anything that might identify her.

The document also stated to “use push pins to hang drop cloths from ceiling” and “use heavy rope for neck-light rope broke under stress of being tightened.” These details are what brought detectives back to Heuermann’s home for a renewed search in May.

“Once we received that document, we went back into the house and, looking at the paneling in the downstairs basement area, we were able to look through an infrared light and establish a cordoned-off area where an adhesive had been placed,” Tierney said. “We also found an area where there were push pins into the drop ceiling.”

Suffolk DA: Gilgo Beach suspect Rex Heuermann had 'planning document' to plot his kills

Prosecutors say Heuermann wrote lists of issues to avoid getting caught and potential dumping sites.

longisland.news12.com

 

[dotr]

Good discussion about the 'document'.@2:00

'Jun 6, 2024 #banfield #gilgobeach #gilgofour
Police have searched Gilgo Beach killing suspect Rex Heuermann’s home twice, and one piece of evidence they said they found in his basement was a Microsoft Word document named “HK2002-04.” Included in the documents was a “checklist of supplies” including ropes, saws and surgical drapes. Forensic psychology expert Katherine Ramsland and Milwaukee Police Dept. retired detective Steve Spingola join "Banfield" to discuss. '

 

[dotr]

Aug 26, 2024 rbbm

Rex Heuermann update: Chilling new details on victims' four days of torture

Alleged Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex Heuermann allegedly kept his victims alive to inflict pain and torture them, according to investigators and crime experts.

www.newsweek.com

"We allege that the more rest the participants [have], the more you get done," Tierney said. "The more rested the participants are the more you can get done."

The planning document had been deleted in 2002, but it was recovered from a device found by officials at his home in Massapequa Park.''

'Prosecutors have released evidence showing a potential four-day period where Taylor may have been in captivity, based on the last time she called a family member and the day when a pickup truck was seen near where her body was found'