Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023

[everlearning]

Rodney Harrison, former Commissioner who led the taskforce, said yesterday he still has questions about family members and possible involvement or knowledge. He also said this isn't over, the investigation will continue that he hopes will answer the questions.

"God willing, we'll find out down the road."

If Mr. Harrison can have questions, I will allow myself to wonder as well.

He was talking with CBS News New York. Begin about 27.30

Among many things I have learned in my life is to never say never when it comes to someone's behavior. People I thought would never, did. I, like Mr. Harrison, still have questions. It's possible that Asa knows more than she wants to share (which, in my opinion, correlates with the need to make sure you have fully investigated everyone's behavior). RH's daughter is a bit of a struggle. But it is possible she heard and saw things (she did work with him, too) that seemed off, but she didn't know how to piece them together. The civil suit may be the best way to uncover those things. It is a reminder that one person's actions can affect those around us, especially those who care about us most. I would say RH should be ashamed, but I don't think shame or conscience is there for him any longer (if it ever was). Hopefully, a wise judge will decide quickly if there is any merit to the lawsuit, and if it stands, if there is merit to keeping his daughter a party in it.

 

[Warwick7]

Thanks, I'd missed that update. Baby Doe and Valerie Mack were discovered literally feet apart from each other, that's a truly wild coincidence if they were buried next to each other by separate killers.

Yes and no that it was a coincidence.

My gut tells me as Valerie Mack's Civil suit progresses forward, we could end up finding out that "many" may have known about this burial dump. As if like it was an unspoken secret. Yes, more than one perpetrator could have felt comfortable in this isolated area.

It was a remote, unlit, and easily accessible stretch of road, making it a "perfect" site for anyone looking to dispose of remains undetected.

All my own opinion.

 

[Ruminations]

I think once sentencing day has come and gone RH won't be able to keep his mouth shut !!!! or the smirk from his face

He will, because keeping his mouth shut protects his family's assets.

I do have a lot of empathy for Rex's family. But the best they could do at the time is not good enough at this time.

Remember, the swinger witness needed the benefit of looking back. In a perfect world, she would have dumped her BF and called an ethical cop that very night she saw Karen Vergata. But I totally understand why she didn't at that time.

We don't all do what we should have done at every point in our lives. But it remains a reasonable expectation on an adult to revisit past perceptions and decisions based on them.

For example, this is a good time for someone to say, "Wait, that bathroom was not just a surprise for me."

MOO

 

[Betty P]

Thank you for the quick response! If there are more victims (and I agree that there are) maybe that’s why he’s smirking. Because he really does think that he got away with murder.

I agree. It's very possible there are more victims who haven't been tied to him, yet. They may be unknown victims, still considered missing or cold cases. One of Tierney's statements yesterday seemed to hint there may be more victims to find at Gilgo or in that area.

If there are other victims somewhere, undiscovered or not linked to him, it would probably amuse him that he's kept those to himself. Small consolation when he has to spend the rest of his life (hopefully) behind bars.

 

[Betty P]

He always asks for it to be cut that way. Husband is corrections where he is currently detained.

Very interesting. Thanks for that info. It's a strange haircut, indeed. Oddly enough, he probably thinks its attractive. JMO

 

[minazoe]

I would scour the coast with cadaver dogs. look how he kept moving up the coast...I would also move down from victim 2 in the other direction...the beach where he was a life guard.

unknown missing girls could be laying in the spaces where there isn't any foot traffic ... why wouldn't there be more?

also could be other Jane Does in other areas. I think he pulled a fast one..he is getting off easily without further incrimination.

how careful was he about DNA etc. back in the 90's say?

how many unsolved cases are tabled in the area? Definitely not the last time we hear from Rex. mOO

 

[ttjo]

I agree. It's very possible there are more victims who haven't been tied to him, yet. They may be unknown victims, still considered missing or cold cases. One of Tierney's statements yesterday seemed to hint there may be more victims to find at Gilgo or in that area.

If there are other victims somewhere, undiscovered or not linked to him, it would probably amuse him that he's kept those to himself. Small consolation when he has to spend the rest of his life (hopefully) behind bars.

Why the sudden stop in 2010? inceased forensic technology, increased police presence, bodies were found?
And why do they think he was getting ready to kill again? Was it the planning document?
Interesting to think about why he stopped and then possibly was going to start again? Forensics would have only gotten better, do you think he loved the notoriety and wanted that thrill of being elusive again or why he wouldnt have been satisfied with never being caught? Another similarity to BTK, maybe he wanted people to know who he was. Now we know who he is but he keeps the details to himself (for now). He thinks he is Al Capone’s vault.

 

[Teche]

Exactly! The ex wife, daughter and step son were confirmed away, in Iceland, Atlantic City, etc during the murders. The daughter was also a literal child for much of the time of his murderous activities. They are indeed also victims of this horrible murderer, certainly in a different way from the families of the murdered women, but victims nonetheless. People are mad but are taking their anger out on innocent parties, not solely on the man who caused all of this grief. They should be allowed to tell their stories, just as the daughter of BTK did, as a cautionary tale. They need to sustain themselves as well. The ex wife has been battling breast and skin cancer, has a developmentally disabled son and a shell shocked daughter.

IMO: RH’s family is innocent, but they are not victims. The victims are the tortured and murdered and their family members. If anyone should receive funds from books, documentaries, and movies, it should be the true victims.

I feel the same way about BTK’s family member, who continues to appear on every talking-head program and documentary. I wish that any funds derived from the publicity would be donated to the true victims or programs that provide services to the victims and their families.

 

[othram]

We built DNA profiles for a number of human remains cases from that area.

For those following the Long Island Serial Killer case, I thought you all might appreciate something we’ve been working on. We recently launched a YouTube series that walks through how cases like this actually get solved, step by step, from DNA to identification.

We’re planning to cover the identification of Karen Vergata now that her case is being formally closed.

In the meantime, we did an episode on a very similar case, Sherri Ann Jarvis, a young girl found murdered along a Texas freeway in 1980, who remained unidentified for decades.

It’s a good example of how these cases go from “no leads” to a name, even when the evidence is terrible.

Watch here:

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Would love feedback and recommendation for other cases we could cover.

 

[lohrtabitha]

From the MSN article. MSN

Heuermann was not charged with Vergata’s murder on Wednesday, instead adding her to his allocution as the eighth victim. The DA stated Vergata’s murder is covered by his admission and guilty plea to the seven other murders.

“There will be no further prosecutions for these eight victims,” said Heuermann’s attorney Mike Brown.

Because Karen Vergata was lumped in with the others, it looks like he can't be prosecuted for anything else related to her. I wonder if he wanted her included because he knew there was a witness (Lorraine) who could pinpoint KV being at his home
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[PickleChris]

Why the sudden stop in 2010? inceased forensic technology, increased police presence, bodies were found?
And why do they think he was getting ready to kill again? Was it the planning document?
Interesting to think about why he stopped and then possibly was going to start again? Forensics would have only gotten better, do you think he loved the notoriety and wanted that thrill of being elusive again or why he wouldnt have been satisfied with never being caught? Another similarity to BTK, maybe he wanted people to know who he was. Now we know who he is but he keeps the details to himself (for now). He thinks he is Al Capone’s vault.

I've always wondered why they didn't continue searching to the West.

 

[I am not Sherlock H.]

I feel like an awful lot of Suffolk County corruption just dodged a dose of sunlight with this plea deal.

Rex's only defense would have been bringing up Suffolk County dirt, including including the whole, sloppy Bittrolff conviction.

MOO

Exactly @Ruminations ….. and agree entirely. From what I have seen in following this case over the years, I will believe much more from former investigator Rodney Harrison and John Ray than I would from many of the others.

I also hope that things are being carefully and methodically looked at now. And not done so in a rush. Will be interesting to see what happens when RH DNA and other forensic profiles make the databases. IANAL MOO

 

[Vaderman]

He always asks for it to be cut that way. Husband is corrections where he is currently detained.

That is fascinating. Any stories of what he's been like in jail you can share?

 

[I am not Sherlock H.]

Rodney Harrison, former Commissioner who led the taskforce, said yesterday he still has questions about family members and possible involvement or knowledge. He also said this isn't over, the investigation will continue that he hopes will answer the questions.

"God willing, we'll find out down the road."

If Mr. Harrison can have questions, I will allow myself to wonder as well.

He was talking with CBS News New York. Begin about 27.30

I would love to hear more from Mr. Harrison on this topic. And it is unfortunate that apparently others close to the case are not allowed to speculate along these lines. IMO this is being rushed rather quickly at this point.

In the meantime I shall wait further developments in this case. And once the now admitted felon RH’s DNA hits the databases. Maybe other cases will be solved. Bless the victims and their families and friends….. for having to endure this these many decades and years. MOO

 

[hot cawfeee]

I wonder if there was something in the deal he considered a major win. Or something he felt he had pulled over on the court. There is something, somewhere - IMO. I hope his ego will lead to him spilling everything sometime just to have the last laugh - just to demonstrate his superiority.

I think he can control some info to the FBI ( bc he is a compelling subject), the current known victims (bless them) he can't be further prosecuted for....the unknown victims as of this moment he won't be prosecuted for (please those who are more legally astute clarify this)....and there's protecting his family ....bc he's a hell of guy !!!

 

[everlearning]

Why the sudden stop in 2010? inceased forensic technology, increased police presence, bodies were found?
And why do they think he was getting ready to kill again? Was it the planning document?
Interesting to think about why he stopped and then possibly was going to start again? Forensics would have only gotten better, do you think he loved the notoriety and wanted that thrill of being elusive again or why he wouldnt have been satisfied with never being caught? Another similarity to BTK, maybe he wanted people to know who he was. Now we know who he is but he keeps the details to himself (for now). He thinks he is Al Capone’s vault.

He is 62. I'm wondering if he wanted to see if he could still pull one of these murders off. That could be an age when a man might begin to feel like he's aging and wants to see if he's still can because he knows age will begin to answer that question for him. Just pondering

 

[twall]

Very interesting. Thanks for that info. It's a strange haircut, indeed. Oddly enough, he probably thinks its attractive. JMO

The haircut is definitely a choice. (and a bad one at that!) I don't know about NY state prisons but some states shave new inmates hair when they arrive for hygenic reasons (lice). Hoping that happens to RH!

 

[Izzylizzy]

Apr 9, 2026

"The decades-long search for answers in the Gilgo Beach serial killer case may finally be over.Suffolk County District Attorney Ray Tierney joins us after Rex Heuermann pleaded guilty to murdering seven women and admitted to killing an eighth on Long Island. Tierney breaks down how the plea deal came together, the evidence that helped crack the case and what comes next'

 

[Warwick7]

Why the sudden stop in 2010? inceased forensic technology, increased police presence, bodies were found?
And why do they think he was getting ready to kill again? Was it the planning document?
Interesting to think about why he stopped and then possibly was going to start again? Forensics would have only gotten better, do you think he loved the notoriety and wanted that thrill of being elusive again or why he wouldnt have been satisfied with never being caught? Another similarity to BTK, maybe he wanted people to know who he was. Now we know who he is but he keeps the details to himself (for now). He thinks he is Al Capone’s vault.

Why the sudden stop in 2010?? I've always pondered the idea of his health and his getting older. I've always wondered if there was a health scare or something or other. As he aged he would have declining physical strength, reduced testosterone, and increased caution. Either a health scare or older age would make it harder to overpower victims and even evade modern surveillance.

That doesn't mean it left his system. If I remember correctly his wife and children were scheduled to leave the state. LE had fears of him following through with past protocols, meaning: she leaves he kills.

 

[hot cawfeee]

He is 62. I'm wondering if he wanted to see if he could still pull one of these murders off. That could be an age when a man might begin to feel like he's aging and wants to see if he's still can because he knows age will begin to answer that question for him. Just pondering

I wondered and will speak delicately but perhaps in 2010 the age of his daughter was getting close to the age of the victims RH was soliciting and RH had a tinge of conscience? discomfiture? and RH may have broadened his search for companionship.....I believe he went to the "shadow population" that are unable to obtain legal work bc they lack proper identification..***** I make no political statement with what I wrote...I live in an area where such humans live and are employed off-the-books farming, cleaning homes etc....people have to eat and need a roof over their heads .....mods please take this down if I'm inappropriate.....