Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023

[Luzie!]

I think its really interesting that Karen lived close to RHs office. Its just a 15 minute walk or even shorter car ride to her place from his work place. Obviously this are all just assumptions, but if we think he started earlier and not mid/end 40ies , this could be totally connected, even if we probably never will find the proof for it.
Also for what i understand he was divorced in 1995 from his first wife and married his second wife in April 1996, so there is the possibility that he was living alone at that time in his childhood home ?

 

[iamshadow21]

I think its really interesting that Karen lived close to RHs office. Its just a 15 minute walk or even shorter car ride to her place from his work place. Obviously this are all just assumptions, but if we think he started earlier and not mid/end 40ies , this could be totally connected, even if we probably never will find the proof for it.
Also for what i understand he was divorced in 1995 from his first wife and married his second wife in April 1996, so there is the possibility that he was living alone at that time in his childhood home ?

Karen disappeared two months before he married. You're right. If they didn't live together before tying the knot, he would have had the place to himself.

MOO

 

[passionflower]

Justice for these ladies

 

[DS2021]

Investigators with the Gilgo Beach Homicide Investigation Task Force added the profile of Judith Ramona Veloz, a Bronx teen who vanished from Manhattan in 1993, to a national missing persons databaselast October.

Do we know how theyve determined that, because her NamUs doesnt say anything about Gilgo

 

[iamshadow21]

I guess saying “at the time LE didn’t give a crap about sex workers” would have made them look bad

As opposed to all the rest of the scandal to do with SCPD? They weren't taking questions anyway, they just could have left that sentence out.

Because, so often when we're talking vulnerable victims, never reported missing so often seems code for not our fault, we couldn't have done anything, it's on the people in their life to let us know. They have all the power, and it doesn't matter how much the family protests that they did try to report it after that point, because they can't call a national reach press conference, and even if they could, they can't unring the bell of everyone hearing and writing articles about how they never bothered to report it.

MOO

 

[Podstan]

The idea of multiple SKs working in this same area at the same time, targeting the same type of victims doesn’t seem totally far fetched to me. I grew up in a big deer hunting state and it’s very common for multiple hunters to be clued into a good spot. I tend to think that, among other things, all the LE issues and corruption made Long Island a good spot. I listened to ”The Set“ podcast and it referenced SCPD scandals back in the 90s. They were making it easy for these predators by being focused on selfish things. IMO

I do have a hard time making any sense of the Shannon Gilbert aspect. I’ve always struggled with the coincidence of the calls to victims’ families. Dr. Hackett’s call to SG’s mom seemed so similar in nature to the call’s MB’s sister and MBB’s roommate (off memory) got from their killer. Based on the evidence in the bail doc, I now have to believe that these calls were just coincidences. Which means there are likely more people on the sadism spectrum than we know!

 

[NyxNY]

Been wondering that myself. Also, this identification was made in September-October, her family notified in October, and from the Presser: we were beginning our grand jury confidential investigation into what has been known as the Gilgo 4 -- that is, the murders of Maureen Brainard-Barnes, Melissa Barthelemy, Megan Waterman, and Amber Costello -- so we decided we were not going to make any public comment at this time."

The confidential Grand Jury Gilgo 4 investigation began immediately on the heels of learning this name. RH had been identified as a suspect in what February or March?

certainly suggestive . . .

Yes, March, and I hear you loud and clear.

 

[iamshadow21]

Do we know how theyve determined that, because her NamUs doesnt say anything about Gilgo

Could it be that the investigator to contact is part of the taskforce? It's listed as a Suffolk County case.

MOO

 

[Luzie!]

RH would’ve been 29 or 30, then. This was in the years between his first and second marriage and while he was working the internship in Freeport, NY. It is the year before he started his business and bought his mother’s home.

I read this : "Rex Heuermann is an architect who founded the New York City firm RH Consultants and Associates in 1994, according to the company's website" so he should have had his own firm already or was setting it up at this point ?

 

[passionflower]

Google Search

At the right age

 

[Jurisprudence]

I am glad that the press conference was kept to Karen Vergata. Much respect to LE for the work being done. moo

Does make me wonder what the hold up is with MBB. They seemed so confident he was linked to MBB that I was expecting news in a matter of days.

jmo

 

[Ruminations]

So much for 'never reported missing'. That phrase makes me so angry, because as someone who follows Does, that so often is part of the police statement when they're identified, and then it comes out that the families did everything they could and the police did nothing, often wouldn't even take their loved one's information. Of all cases, of all police, you'd think the Gilgo Task Force would do their best to avoid making that horrendous blunder.

MOO

ITA.

I always take"Never reported missing," to mean, "No agency would accept a missing person report."

It's really sad.

MOO

 

[DS2021]

Could it be that the investigator to contact is part of the taskforce? It's listed as a Suffolk County case.

MOO

Do we have a list of members of the task force

 

[iamshadow21]

ITA.

I always take"Never reported missing," to mean, "No agency would accept a missing person report."

It's really sad.

MOO

Or 'person was a literal child when they went missing, and on the day they would have turned eighteen, we shredded the report and didn't tell the family'.

MOO

 

[Ruminations]

Karen fits to me. My new theory is that RH learned in the late 90's that water disposal doesn't work. Parts float to shore. Then he switched to all ground. Then not dismembered.

MOO

 

[Ruminations]

Does make me wonder what the hold up is with MBB. They seemed so confident he was linked to MBB that I was expecting news in a matter of days.

jmo

Could be as simple as Grand Jury scheduling.

 

[iamshadow21]

Karen fits to me. My new theory is that RH learned in the late 90's that water disposal doesn't work. Parts float to shore. Then he switched to all ground. Then not dismembered.

MOO

That theory of evolution of disposal would exclude Cherries, then. She was washed up in 2007.

MOO

 

[Scotch]

As opposed to all the rest of the scandal to do with SCPD? They weren't taking questions anyway, they just could have left that sentence out.

Because, so often when we're talking vulnerable victims, never reported missing so often seems code for not our fault, we couldn't have done anything, it's on the people in their life to let us know. They have all the power, and it doesn't matter how much the family protests that they did try to report it after that point, because they can't call a national reach press conference, and even if they could, they can't unring the bell of everyone hearing and writing articles about how they never bothered to report it.

MOO

I think it would be more appropriate to say that police never filed a missing person report. I still would prefer that they say the family reported that they tried to file one.

 

[Friday13]

I read this : "Rex Heuermann is an architect who founded the New York City firm RH Consultants and Associates in 1994, according to the company's website" so he should have had his own firm already or was setting it up at this point ?

Most likely and I believe in the few years before he opened his own firm (and while he was married to his first wife) he was working in Freeport

 

[Jurisprudence]

<modsnip: Quoted post was removed> The cheek swab is to give them a primary source of DNA evidence directly from RH. Right now, the PCA was based on the DNA sourced from the pizza crust he threw away.

Cops want a swab of accused serial killer Rex Heuermann's DNA

The Suffolk County District Attorney's office is asking a justice to allow prosecutors to swab Rex Heuermann's cheek for further DNA after collecting a sample off a pizza crust and napkin.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Without the sample, Assistant District Attorney Michelle Haddad argued, forensic biologists would only be able to reference the pizza crust and napkin as being 'purported to be used/touched' by Heuermann.

'Should the defendant's DNA from the [cheek swab] not match the DNA profile from the pizza crusts and napkin submitted for Rex Heuermann, the defense would be presented with a potential trial defense.

'Thus, there is a clear indication that material and relevant evidence will be found and is crucial for that.'

A cheek swab, she said, 'would provide further relevant evidence of the defendant's identity as the perpetrator of these crimes.'

I saw this too and this is just completely BAFFLING to me.

Why they did not obtain a warrant to obtain his DNA via Buccal Swab on arrest is confounding. Why did they wait? They'd been tailing his for some time already at that point.

On another note, it solves the mystery surrounding the hearing #623

jmo