Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023

[Betty P]

The defense attorney for alleged Gilgo Beach killer Rex A. Heuermann said Wednesday that another suspect in the 13-year-old case was nearly arrested under the previous district attorney and that prosecutors have not yet turned over to detectives notes that could be helpful to the defense.
Defense attorney Michael J. Brown of Central Islip said those notes would have the names of other suspects in the multiple homicide investigation.

“It's important for us to defend my client to get all the investigation notes from all the detectives and police officers involved in this case,” Brown told State Supreme Court Justice Timothy Mazzei during Heuermann’s brief appearance in court Wednesday. “We're looking forward to getting that in an expeditious manner because we're at four or five months already. That's very important for us to go forward with the trial.”

Speaking with the media outside of the courthouse, Brown said former Suffolk County District Attorney Timothy Sini “wanted somebody arrested" for this crime. Brown didn't identify the potential suspect.

District Attorney Ray Tierney said the grand jury investigation into the Gilgo Four is expected to end "very shortly" as he addressed the media following the appearance.

The special grand jury, which began on June 15, is still hearing evidence against Heuermann in the killing of potential fourth victim Maureen Brainard-Barnes, Tierney said. Tierney said the grand jury minutes that have not yet been turned over are related to the ongoing investigation.


Judge Mazzei at one point interrupted Santomartino, expressing surprise when the prosecutor said the newly turned over evidence includes 13,000 photographs taken during the execution of search warrants at Heuermann's home, office and storage units he rented.

Gilgo Beach killings: Attorney for serial killer suspect Rex Heuermann says investigators nearly arrested someone else

The attorney declined to name that potential suspect and said prosecutors have not yet turned over notes that could be helpful to Rex Heuermann's defense.

www.newsday.com

Thanks, good summary. This article and the one from the Daily Mail sort of clarified for me that the GJ has already voted on the 3 murders Rex H has been accused of. They're still deliberating on the other murders.

In the DM, the prosecution said they only had 75 pages of evidence left to send to the defense attorneys.

Gilgo Beach suspect Rex Heuermann's wife arrives at court hearing

Asa Ellerup, 59, was in court Wednesday morning to see for herself if there is evidence to indicate her spouse is guilty of the atrocities he is accused of committing.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[NyxNY]

Yeah, that would be nice, but tbh, she has a disabled son to take care of without an income. Someday she will be gone and he will still need to be provided for. My hunch is any money she makes goes to that.

jmo

I hope this is the case, and Macedonio doesn't take too much of that pie. I honestly do not think he has her or her childrens' best interests at heart. MOO

 

[Deleted member 117884]

I hope this is the case, and Macedonio doesn't take too much of that pie. I honestly do not think he has her or her childrens' best interests at heart. MOO

I agree. I don't trust the guy. Hope my doubts are misplaced.

jmo

 

[I am not Sherlock H.]

I agree. I don't trust the guy. Hope my doubts are misplaced.

jmo

Quite agree with this from observations thus far. And I had wondered wouldn’t the estranged wife of the alleged killer - by virtue of a likely witness (for either prosecution and/or defense) - be precluded from hearing court testimony or evidence?

And if that is the case, why would an attorney for the estranged wife be indicating that his client intends to be in court for all trial proceedings?

Something doesn’t pass the test on this……. and I wish some legal scholars would weigh in on the topic of her attendance once trial proceedings are underway - and if she is to be a called witness.

And I also hope this trial and other LISK or GILGO prosecutions don’t turn into a media ’circus’.
MOO

 

[Ruminations]

Many times when a spouse is charged with a serious crime, the defendant signs over their property to a spouse or partners to protect their assets. The money, etc, stays in the family- so to speak and is protected from seizure. It happens far too often. That may be the case, here.

And that's kosher- insofar as Rex does not give away his own stuff. Anything that is in both names and reasonably should be just Asa's should be transferred. Or perhaps things that really belong to adult Children that may have been in Rex's name should be transferred.

But it is not right to give away what is Rex's when it should be us3d to pay his own bills and settle his own judgement. That's stealing.

MOO.

 

[Ruminations]

Yeah, that would be nice, but tbh, she has a disabled son to take care of without an income. Someday she will be gone and he will still need to be provided for. My hunch is any money she makes goes to that.

jmo

Presumably, her disabled son gets SSI and or SSD and SNAP. it takes some of the sting off supporting him.

moo

 

[Forest_Wood]

Using her to get information on Rex's defense, to pull every manipulation possible to keep her from testifying against Rex, to move assets from Rex's victims and to Rex's family, and ultimately Rex himself, even if it only buys a slightly more comfortable incarceration.

Macedonio has already made it clear, to Rex's significant advantage, that Asa has no interest in being a cooperative witness.

Macedonio has not done or advised what you suggested (and with which I very much agree), which is to express sympathy for the survivors of the murder victims. it would help her. But if Macedonio is whipping her into fear of her own legal danger in doing so, that seems to me to harm Asa and help Rex, because her potent contribution to humanizing the victims is averted.

Macedonio spent a lot of time damaging the reputation of LE by holding up Asa as their victim, helping Rex and IMO harming Asa by holding her inconveniences out in front of children who had to grow up without mothers.

Macedonio repeated on Asa's behalf that she would have nothin useful to say to the police, which helps Rex with this logic: The house is small, he couldn't hide all that from her, but she has nothing useful to say, so it can't be him.

(Yet, he has warned her against self incrimination, which sounds like a contradiction; if she knows enough to be complicit herself, she has useful information)

Macedonio had the house photographed, in theory to document what is common practice in evidence search, for some dead-end lawsuit against LE. ( And am I right that the names LE is the FBI? The meddlers who locked up Spota &co.?) But perhaps he has some tricks to get them to Rex, so he can try to evaluate if certain hiding places have been discovered. This is just a theory of mine.

Macedonio got his license back after serious money laundering and bribing charges. It's hard to trust him. But his background ignored, his actions just don't seem to benefit Asa, but do have potential to benefit Rex.

MOO

So far, it seems to me they're still a committed couple, helping each other out, no matter what. MOO.

 

[Ruminations]

So far, it seems to me they're still a committed couple, helping each other out, no matter what. MOO.

Nothing convinced me of this more than reading that the house transfer and divorce were initiated THE same day.

Some conwinky-dink.

MOO

 

[Just K]

Asa is to star in a doco !
Dear oh dear !

My only wishes are for complete Justice, & that DNA science doesn't lie. Neither does telephone triangulation !

IMO this is going to turn into a tv circus.

She obviously readied herself for her star appearance- fresh outfit and more coifed hair than she’s been seen wearing, over the past four months. Either she’s there for him or to see what the defense has…

 

[Just K]

Asa is to star in a doco !
Dear oh dear !

My only wishes are for complete Justice, & that DNA science doesn't lie. Neither does telephone triangulation !

IMO this is going to turn into a tv circus.

What is a doco?

 

[Megnut]

What is a doco?

Documentary/series.

 

[CuriousCricket]

She obviously readied herself for her star appearance- fresh outfit and more coifed hair than she’s been seen wearing, over the past four months. Either she’s there for him or to see what the defense has…

or she's there because there's money in it.

 

[waldojabba]

I hope this is the case, and Macedonio doesn't take too much of that pie. I honestly do not think he has her or her childrens' best interests at heart. MOO

I would agree that Macedonio does not have his clients best interest in mind.
I would also suggest that the network people cozying up to Asa ( the network woman with the channel purse next to Asa in the pictures of Asa headed in to court) also do not have any thought of her family’s well being or hers.
These people are not who Mr Roger’s had in mind when he told us all to “ look for the helpers”.
Asa seems to be awkward socially and certainly not worldly. The difference between Asa’s sister and Asa was telling imo. She seems very trusting and simple - vulnerable to manipulation. Hence Rex.
By doing this documentary and these court appearances ( I feel like they were of course the networks idea) she is opening a door to a very unkind world. I don’t think she has any idea of what’s ahead and the utter chaos she is creating for herself and her family. The very same type of “s - storm” she found herself in when they arrested Rex and searched the house. And apparently no one with common sense is looking out after her.
On the other hand if her court appearances and the documentary attract more media coverage, that keeps the spotlight on the case and the many victims which is a good thing.
JMO

 

[Forest_Wood]

I would agree that Macedonio does not have his clients best interest in mind.
I would also suggest that the network people cozying up to Asa ( the network woman with the channel purse next to Asa in the pictures of Asa headed in to court) also do not have any thought of her family’s well being or hers.
These people are not who Mr Roger’s had in mind when he told us all to “ look for the helpers”.
Asa seems to be awkward socially and certainly not worldly. The difference between Asa’s sister and Asa was telling imo. She seems very trusting and simple - vulnerable to manipulation. Hence Rex.
By doing this documentary and these court appearances ( I feel like they were of course the networks idea) she is opening a door to a very unkind world. I don’t think she has any idea of what’s ahead and the utter chaos she is creating for herself and her family. The very same type of “s - storm” she found herself in when they arrested Rex and searched the house. And apparently no one with common sense is looking out after her.
On the other hand if her court appearances and the documentary attract more media coverage, that keeps the spotlight on the case and the many victims which is a good thing.
JMO

I agree she is opening a door to an unkind world by the choices she continues to make, but i disagree she is vulnerable or trusting. I think she knows exactly what she's doing. MOO.

 

[NyxNY]

I would agree that Macedonio does not have his clients best interest in mind.
I would also suggest that the network people cozying up to Asa ( the network woman with the channel purse next to Asa in the pictures of Asa headed in to court) also do not have any thought of her family’s well being or hers.
These people are not who Mr Roger’s had in mind when he told us all to “ look for the helpers”.
Asa seems to be awkward socially and certainly not worldly. The difference between Asa’s sister and Asa was telling imo. She seems very trusting and simple - vulnerable to manipulation. Hence Rex.
By doing this documentary and these court appearances ( I feel like they were of course the networks idea) she is opening a door to a very unkind world. I don’t think she has any idea of what’s ahead and the utter chaos she is creating for herself and her family. The very same type of “s - storm” she found herself in when they arrested Rex and searched the house. And apparently no one with common sense is looking out after her.
On the other hand if her court appearances and the documentary attract more media coverage, that keeps the spotlight on the case and the many victims which is a good thing.
JMO

Asa's attorney's office is now denying claims about the film crew, which I am not buying into because the film crew was identified as being from the Peacock Network. I call BS

Ginenne Pugliese, an associate at the office of Ellerup's attorney Bob Macedonio, said there was "no comment" to those statements by Brown. Pugliese said that although there was a media stir when Ellerup arrived, it was not a film crew recording her. "It was me," she said. "I was told to document" what transpired.

Gilgo Suspect's Estranged Wife 'Doesn't Believe' He Did It: Lawyer

Rex Heuermann's wife appeared at court Wednesday. "My understanding is she doesn't believe he committed these acts," attorney says.

patch.com

 

[Teche]

Presumably, her disabled son gets SSI and or SSD and SNAP. it takes some of the sting off supporting him.

moo

The adult, healthy daughter attended college and worked. She doesn’t have to be supported. The victims’ families have struggled and forged on.

 

[Teche]

Asa's attorney's office is now denying claims about the film crew, which I am not buying into because the film crew was identified as being from the Peacock Network. I call BS

Ginenne Pugliese, an associate at the office of Ellerup's attorney Bob Macedonio, said there was "no comment" to those statements by Brown. Pugliese said that although there was a media stir when Ellerup arrived, it was not a film crew recording her. "It was me," she said. "I was told to document" what transpired.

Gilgo Suspect's Estranged Wife 'Doesn't Believe' He Did It: Lawyer

Rex Heuermann's wife appeared at court Wednesday. "My understanding is she doesn't believe he committed these acts," attorney says.

patch.com

Asa arrived via a Mercedes Benz.

 

[Betty P]

The adult, healthy daughter attended college and worked. She doesn’t have to be supported. The victims’ families have struggled and forged on.

The children should have access to special counseling and emotional support for the psych trauma they're having to deal with now and during the next few years. BTK's daughter has spoken and written very well about the trauma she endured in the years after her father's arrest. It all probably came as a total shock to the daughter and son and I hope they get the help they need in coping with the stress and carrying on with their lives.

 

[Baby baby Jane]

The adult, healthy daughter attended college and worked. She doesn’t have to be supported. The victims’ families have struggled and forged on.

The support issue, I believe, is the care he may need (and not $). It’s possible that he cannot be left alone, and cannot care for himself. He may need 24/7 and may not tolerate strangers helping (in- home care expensive and doubt having stranger in house right now would be wise). It’s likely Asa is a full time carer for her son, (which is why she is taking him to shops with his food stamps) daughter may be giving mother & brother support. We just don’t know. But do know being full time 24/7 carer is a difficult job.

 

[BaffleMe]

Nothing convinced me of this more than reading that the house transfer and divorce were initiated THE same day.

Some conwinky-dink.

MOO

Sorry catching up. Where is this transfer and from who to who? How can they still be a committed couple???