Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023

[Betty P]

There are still questions as to whether the victims whose remains were found in Manorville, NY are also linked to Rex H. Some victims remains are in both locations - Manorville and Gilgo Beach area.

I was wondering why Rex H or another serial killer would move the remains of their victims. The last victim of Green River Killer was recently revealed and her remains were located in two areas, across the state line in Oregon.

Last known set of remains linked to Green River killer identified as Everett teen

The remains, known as “Bones 20,” were identified as 16-year-old Tammie Liles, the King County Sheriff’s Office said Monday.

www.seattletimes.com

In interviews, Gary Ridgway revealed that he moved the remains of his victims to confuse LE

Gary Ridgway - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Since some victims found in Manorville also had remains found near Gilgo Beach, do you think Rex H. also killed the victims at Manorville?

 

[Betty P]

There are still questions as to whether the victims whose remains were found in Manorville, NY are also linked to Rex H. Some victims remains are in both locations - Manorville and Gilgo Beach area.

I was wondering why Rex H or another serial killer would move the remains of their victims. The last victim of Green River Killer was recently revealed and her remains were located in two areas, across the state line in Oregon.

Last known set of remains linked to Green River killer identified as Everett teen

The remains, known as “Bones 20,” were identified as 16-year-old Tammie Liles, the King County Sheriff’s Office said Monday.

www.seattletimes.com

In interviews, Gary Ridgway revealed that he moved the remains of his victims to confuse LE

Gary Ridgway - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Since some victims found in Manorville also had remains found near Gilgo Beach, do you think Rex H. also killed the victims at Manorville?

Jessica Taylor and Valerie Mack's remains were found both at Gilgo Beach and Manorville, NY. Both were described as having been "tied up like a hunter did it".

2 other Gilgo Beach victims were tied up like a ‘hunter’ did it: investigator

MANORVILLE, Long Island (PIX11) — Wednesday marked 20 years since the headless and handless body of Jessica Taylor, a 20-year-old escort working out of New York City, was discovered in the wo…

pix11.com

 

[x_files]

2 other Gilgo Beach victims were tied up like a ‘hunter’ did it: investigator

MANORVILLE, Long Island (PIX11) — Wednesday marked 20 years since the headless and handless body of Jessica Taylor, a 20-year-old escort working out of New York City, was discovered in the wo…

pix11.com

What if Rex had a buddy?
Someone with similar interests? Stranger things have happened.

 

[Izzylizzy]

Chris Cuomo interviews Macedonio about Rex's hearing charging him with murder of 4th victim on Gilgo Beach. Macedonio claims his family thinks LE might be "framing" Rex H. I feel badly for the family, especially the daughter. It's a nightmare being caught up in such a horrible situation, making you question everything you believe about your parent.

Chris Cuomo asks if there's any chance Rex Heuermann will confess and tell what he did. Macedonio says no chance. Heuermann has an excellent defense attorney who won't allow that to happen. FWIW, It almost sounds like Macedonio thinks Rex H is innocent, too.

Bob Macedonio didn't sound like Rex was so innocent back in November.

'Ellerup’s lawyer, Robert Macedonio, told The Post Thursday that her DNA being found on the scene is “nothing new” and that it was more than likely from a “hair transfer inside the house.'

Suspect Rex Heuermann’s estranged wife’s cheek swab matches DNA found on victims: report

A cheek swab was taken from Asa Ellerup on the night her husband was arrested. That sample now matches the DNA found on hair strands on the victims.

nypost.com

 

[Izzylizzy]

Macedonio came right out and said that Asa "doesn't want to believe" it and has reason to believe that the investigation is "flawed".
What I don't get is why Asa's is using the media reporting as her go-to for info/confirmation and isn't relying on the state's evidence?
To me it looks like Asa considers the prosecutors as an enemy.
It's all about Asa and her need to "process" and has zilch to do with the victims and their loved ones and any possible future victims that were spared the evil ways of her husband.


Cuomo and Macedonio after Rex is charged with 4th murder.

 

[Izzylizzy]

If I had heard, my parents were swingers at their (and my) own home, not discreet at a certain specialized club, I think, I would have had enough of both at the moment. I don't believe, I would long for seeing my father in addition at court, where he appears as the alleged multiple murderer of young women like myself. MOO

Signing a documentary contract lets others dictate your actions.
It was time for a Victoria viewing.
Curious how Asa's son will be portrayed, he also has a contract to be fulfilled, iirc: $200,000 worth.

 

[Red Clover]

Macedonio came right out and said that Asa "doesn't want to believe" it and has reason to believe that the investigation is "flawed".
What I don't get is why Asa's is using the media reporting as her go-to for info/confirmation and isn't relying on the state's evidence?
To me it looks like Asa considers the prosecutors as an enemy.
It's all about Asa and her need to "process" and has zilch to do with the victims and their loved ones and any possible future victims that were spared the evil ways of her husband.


Cuomo and Macedonio after Rex is charged with 4th murder.

AE & VH probably need to "process" the fact that their DNA is now forever associated with more than one of these murders.

 

[Izzylizzy]

AE & VH probably need to "process" the fact that their DNA is now forever associated with more than one of these murders.

Meanwhile back on the river Nile, Asa Heuermann conveniently wants to forget all the evidence the prosecutors have which I'm sure they would be more than willing to explain what they have and how they gathered it.
So much easier to follow the media, eh?
Why does she think that everyone else was surprised?


'The only thing that [Asa] knows is what is in the media. She was as surprised as everyone else.'

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Gilgo Beach cops followed Rex Heuermann's DAUGHTER ...​

Daily Mail
https://www.dailymail.co.uk › news › article-12970505



8 days ago — On May 25, 2023, Victoria Heuermann, 26, was followed from Penn Station in New York City on a Long Island Rail Road train to Massapequa Park, .

 

[Ruminations]

From your reference to Macedonio saying Rex H might be innocent, we all know that every defense lawyer worth his weight in salt will be believable and adamant that their client is innocent, railroaded, not guilty or falsely accused.. you name it. What they say before court is in session is opinion and is not sworn testimony. They are only trying to defend the accused to try to unbias a skeptical public who normally believes anyone arrested is automatically guilty because the cops rarely screw up and get the wrong guy.

I get it. Defense lawyers... That is their job in the American legal system. The defendant, no matter how guilty they are, has a right to be defended vigorously. Our system has faults and is not perfect by a long shot. But the vast majority of people who are convicted, are guilty. And the majority of people who are let off or not prosecuted, were innocent to start with.

It's the ones in between that make the system imperfect.. Innocent serving time and guilty getting off for technicalities that drives us bonkers.

But...how often do defense attorneys declare that other person's clients are not guilty? That is the strange dynamic here. Macedonio is AE's attorney. What does Rex's guilt or innocence have to do her, given that she is not charged as a co conspirator?

MOO

 

[Red Clover]

But...how often do defense attorneys declare that other person's clients are not guilty? That is the strange dynamic here. Macedonio is AE's attorney. What does Rex's guilt or innocence have to do her, given that she is not charged as a co conspirator?

MOO

Perhaps it's possible that she could be charged at some point so her lawyer is acting like the whole thing must be a big setup???
I mean one hair on one body is a coincidence... but IMO if there's evidence of AE's DNA on several it's a different ballgame.
MOO

 

[Ruminations]

Perhaps it's possible that she could be charged at some point so her lawyer is acting like the whole thing must be a big setup???
I mean one hair on one body is a coincidence... but IMO if there's evidence of AE's DNA on several it's a different ballgame.
MOO

IDK. The prosecution is making a point about emphasizing AE's travel during the disappearance. But you make an interesting observation. If she were a co conspirator, that would explain several of Macedonios's actions.

so, I'll stick a pin in it. And review this thought if the prosecution backs down on the assertion that AE was traveling.

MOO

 

[Teche]

Signing a documentary contract lets others dictate your actions.
It was time for a Victoria viewing.
Curious how Asa's son will be portrayed, he also has a contract to be fulfilled, iirc: $200,000 worth.

Do you wonder how the son’s government funds will be affected? Is he going to lose benefits?

 

[Red Clover]

IDK. The prosecution is making a point about emphasizing AE's travel during the disappearance. But you make an interesting observation. If she were a co conspirator, that would explain several of Macedonios's actions.

so, I'll stick a pin in it. And review this thought if the prosecution backs down on the assertion that AE was traveling.

MOO

I mean... there have been ALOT of bodies found over many years in that same general area. Then there's the person(s) that have named her as an active swinger and sometimes sexual partner of visitors to their home. It's JMO but there's hardly a chance that she wasn't acutely aware of RH's predilections, possibly even the violent ones.

 

[Izzylizzy]

Do you wonder how the son’s government funds will be affected? Is he going to lose benefits?

I thought more along the lines of Asa's friend saying CH was "learning disabled" and if he is capable of understanding what he signed?
Would the money be considered earnings?

 

[Izzylizzy]

I haven't found any new info saying otherwise.

"Magdalene Dismas Society and John Ray are presenting a Symposium as to LISK and LISK victims on January 30, 2024. This event will be held at the Merillac Hall Auditorium at St John's University in Queens NY, from 3:30 to 7:30 p.m. The real story of several victims, the police, and John Ray's work will be disclosed. Several victims are expected to attend. "
Admission is free.

 

[Forest_Wood]

Signing a documentary contract lets others dictate your actions.
It was time for a Victoria viewing.
Curious how Asa's son will be portrayed, he also has a contract to be fulfilled, iirc: $200,000 worth.

Exactly what I thought too. It was time for VH to show up in court to earn her $$$$ in the contract. Very weird seeing them walking into court imo.

 

[Forest_Wood]

I thought more along the lines of Asa's friend saying CH was "learning disabled" and if he is capable of understanding what he signed?
Would the money be considered earnings?

Good question! They got money from the crowdfunding, and now the documentary money. If not earnings, then definitely income. I wonder how that will affect any subsidies they've been receiving in support of him.

 

[I am not Sherlock H.]

But...how often do defense attorneys declare that other person's clients are not guilty? That is the strange dynamic here. Macedonio is AE's attorney. What does Rex's guilt or innocence have to do her, given that she is not charged as a co conspirator?

MOO

Yes! And this is exactly why I tend to have a clouded or jaundiced view of participating in a fee-based ‘docu-drama’. And I am not a lawyer, but would love to hear some speak on the actions of the defendant’s wife’s lawyer and all the comments made by that lawyer on behalf of his client, in addition relating to the accused RH. IMO this is all just setting up for ‘bad theatre’. Or worse, could compromise any court proceedings or possible convictions?

I also keep hoping that more charges will result. Time will tell. And I also hope that Mr. Ray and the Gilbert family will keep their ‘foot on the gas’. I shudder to think where all of this case might be had the Gilbert family and Mr. Ray and Mr. Harrison not pressed matters. MOO

 

[Baby baby Jane]

Do you wonder how the son’s government funds will be affected? Is he going to lose benefits?

Probably funds into a special needs trust which shouldn’t impact his benefits. Funds to be used at trustee discretion.

 

[Baby baby Jane]

I thought more along the lines of Asa's friend saying CH was "learning disabled" and if he is capable of understanding what he signed?
Would the money be considered earnings?

Lawyer would prob have set up a trust to protect his funds, which will be only spend at trustee approval, not impact his benefits.