Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023

[Mountain_Kat]

Yes, but she’s married to an American, RH.

Where are we getting the idea that AE is a foreigner. To the best of my knowledge, she was born in the United States. Am I wrong ?

 

[x_files]

Or if you’re flying below the radar because you are undocumented.

But she married prior and still is married to RH correct?

 

[Warwick7]

The tweet is accurate. Gloria Allred represents the family of Jessica Taylor. John Ray does not represent any of the victims families for the 6 cases Rex Heuermann is currently being charged with.

The original tweet said: that they did not have representation. That was a text from 2023. As it stands today, that text is inaccurate, Gloria Allred is representing them.

 

[DS2021]

Yep, saw that. So that tweet is no longer accurate.

I was using it to show that JR is no longer involved

 

[Mountain_Kat]

The original tweet said: that they did not have representation. That was a text from 2023. As it stands today, that text is inaccurate, Gloria Allred is representing them.

Thanks for clarifying, Warwick. I'm playing catch up this afternoon.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Where are we getting the idea that AE is a foreigner. To the best of my knowledge, she was born in the United States. Am I wrong ?

you just have to go back a few pages to get the full drift.

 

[Warwick7]

I personally don't pay attention to John Ray. He doesn't work for LE ( or in partnership with them ), and he doesn't represent any of the victims or their families. He's just some lawyer off the streets.

IMO

The depositions he took are strong and powerful. If it wasn't for his tenacity looking for Shannon they would have never found all the others.

Be a family fighting for your dead loved one and no one will listen to you. He chose to listen.

Witnesses are reaching out to him. They trust him. They had to deal with people like Burke for far too long.
MOO

 

[x_files]

Where are we getting the idea that AE is a foreigner. To the best of my knowledge, she was born in the United States. Am I wrong ?

I keep reading conflicting reports, here is one that claims she is from Iceland.

"Ellerup emigrated to the United States from Iceland as a child, and grew up near Heuermann on Long Island."

How Gilgo Beach serial killer suspect's wife reacted to images

Asa Ellerup, 59, was home in Massapequa Park when officers burst in at the moment her husband Rex Heuermann, 59, was arrested outside his NYC firm for the murders of three sex workers.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Ruminations]

I personally don't pay attention to John Ray. He doesn't work for LE ( or in partnership with them ), and he doesn't represent any of the victims or their families. He's just some lawyer off the streets.

IMO

I have to disagree for a few reasons.

Many people are not trusting of LE for various reasons, and John Ray has extended the opportunity to give information another way.

The most effective police commissioner over this case in its history asked the public to approach John Ray if they were not willing to go through Crime Stoppers (LE tip line). If the police commissioner who oversaw the task force identify, surveil and arrest Rex Heuermann trusts John Ray, why would anyone distrust him? It is absolutely not accurate that John Ray does not work in partnership with LE.

He has information that LE rejected and is highly relevant. You would think his info would be from populations involved in illegal activities, but in fact his most interesting witnesses are law abiding persons. One of them attempted to get her information accepted by crime stoppers, and was unsuccessful.

If it were not for John Ray, we would NOT have the Shannan Gilbert 911 tape.

MOO

 

[Warwick7]

I was using it to show that JR is no longer involved

However, he is involved.

He was extremely tenacious taking and dealing with all those depositions. They knocked me off my feet what information he found. Sometimes I would have to take a break from reading, because it was so horrific, all the information he was obtaining.

If it wasn't for him, the looking for Shannan, the fighting for what was right, they wouldn't had found all those other victims.

He is quirky and can have a big ego. That said, at least he doing something....
MOO

 

[jessr927]

Interesting-I always thought the lie was what she said to the swinger- I never considered that she went to HS on LI as being the lie.

Still, she travels internationally. You can't just fly to another country and fly back into the USA without having the legal residence.

MOO

I agree - I think she made up a story for the swinger.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

One more comment and then I'm going to just shut up and read. A sworn affidavit is meaningless if it can't be presented in a court of law. Since (so far) John Ray doesn't represent any of the known victims, or their families , he can't present this "swinger party" affidavit in a court of law. And after seeing this witness in an interview with Banfield, I would be SHOCKED if Ray Tierney ever put her on the witness stand.

All JMO

 

[zvzvzvzv]

Where are we getting the idea that AE is a foreigner. To the best of my knowledge, she was born in the United States. Am I wrong ?

All I've seen says she was born in South Farmingdale on Long Island. I know early on people were speculating she was from Iceland, but it seems she is 1st generation American with extended family in Iceland. That witness who claimed to be at the Heuermann's and met her should have been struck by her thick Long Island accent in contrast to the Icelandic claim. My guess is the witness concocted that story early in the case before the public knew more of her history or had heard her speak.

 

[Warwick7]

"An affidavit is a legally binding written statement that can be used in legal proceedings to verify the truth of a document. It's considered sworn testimony, similar to testifying in court, and can be used as evidence to support a side in a dispute.

An affidavit is the written version of swearing under oath to tell the truth, just as if you were testifying in a courtroom. The document is signed both by the person making the statement, called an affiant, and by a person who is legally authorized to administer an oath, such as a notary public or certain court and government officers.

Affidavits are often used in pre-trial, arbitration, and civil litigation... However, affidavits can be used to impeach a witness's testimony if it contradicts what they stated in their affidavit. If the contradiction was intentional and involved a material issue, it could potentially lead to criminal charges of perjury."

What Is an Affidavit and How Is It Used?

From courtrooms to everyday transitions—an affidavit is the most utilized legal document. Learn about its importance and implications.

www.legalzoom.com

 

[devilsangeldoc]

ED meds or an STD.

Yes or a snippy snip. Maybe all.

 

[Warwick7]

All I've seen says she was born in South Farmingdale on Long Island. I know early on people were speculating she was from Iceland, but it seems she is 1st generation American with extended family in Iceland. That witness who claimed to be at the Heuermann's and met her should have been struck by her thick Long Island accent in contrast to the Icelandic claim. My guess is the witness concocted that story early in the case before the public knew more of her history or had heard her speak.

BBM
I, like others believe she is telling her truth, just like she heard it.

An affidavit is the written version of swearing under oath to tell the truth, just as if you were testifying in a courtroom.

Signing an affidavit that contains false information can subject the affiant to criminal penalties. Therefore, before signing, it is very important to read the document carefully to ensure that the information is accurate and truthful. If the affidavit includes any statements that are the opinion or belief of the affiant, the fact that it is opinion or belief needs to be clearly stated."

What Is an Affidavit and How Is It Used?

From courtrooms to everyday transitions—an affidavit is the most utilized legal document. Learn about its importance and implications.

www.legalzoom.com

 

[Just K]

Where are we getting the idea that AE is a foreigner. To the best of my knowledge, she was born in the United States. Am I wrong ?

People were wondering if she was fibbing to the swinger about RH rescuing her and bringing her to the US or if she’s fibbing on social media about going to HS in LI. If it was true that RH brought her to the US, people wondered why her social media would say she went to HS locally.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

People were wondering if she was fibbing to the swinger about RH rescuing her and bringing her to thevUS or if she’s fibbing on social media about going to HS in LI. If it was true that RH brought her to the US, people wondered why her social media would say she went to HS locally.

Thank you, JK. I'm just going to skip over that discussion in the thread, then. Saves me a lot of time.

 

[Baby baby Jane]

He was building alibis (“his story”) per his HK document.

He can drive around checking on dumpsites- he can be in Manorville and have a purpose…
Why were you in Manorville?
I’m there quite often, I volunteer at events at the Peconic River Club.

 

[snooptroop88]

i keep wondering as well.... thought maybe it was Heuermann Kills.

I've seen Heuermann Kills on here, I've seen Hunt Kill. Happy Killer. These sound like good ideas for this.

It's interesting, though, that we've got initial set "HK" now in the discussion and the other set of important initials he introduced before was with the belt, WH. And it's kind of interesting, WH upside down becomes HM. HK upside down is backwards "K" and H. All the inversion and so forth is almost certainly overthinking it, but does he have any relatives with initials HK or KH? Because that WH is the grandfather.

It not likely there's the same type of thinking between this set of initials on the document and the set with the belt. The initial set on the belt (WH) was left with a victim's remains, RH had to wonder if LE would someday find it. The "HK" was buried in a deleted file. But I'd still be curious to know if any victims or any of his relatives had those initials.