Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023

[indicolite22]

MOO
Brian Laundrie hasd disturbing violent drawings. So many said if he only got help if he only got help, then what happened to Gabby wouldn't have happened. What I find in VH is disturbing, violent, disgusting, not normal, deranged, unsound, unhinged....ect.

No this is not okay, this is unhinged..

It is disturbing to me, too, but it doesn't justify John Ray making connections with specific RH's victims. VH was too young to be involved.

 

[Just K]

Then that does not mean VH was a participant in her killing. The tone was very much heavily suggested her involvement in her father's alleged crimes. Stumbling across a picture of a crime does not make someone a criminal. Every single one of us on here would be locked up, otherwise.

MOO

Right, my point being that seeing actual photos or actual victims would influence her art and possible “interests.”

 

[x_files]

Especially the discovery.

I think in order to sue she'd have to prove those weren't her paintings or blog posts and it would up a can of worms!

 

[x_files]

It is disturbing to me, too, but it doesn't justify John Ray making connections with specific RH's victims. VH was too young to be involved.

Not involved but she may have witnessed something.
Or found a body.
I feel so bad for her.

 

[LadyL]

If their Fathers were accused of murder they would hold quite a different meaning though. Some artists were depicting WAR, and HELL from the Bible, another an autopsy, and Medusa from Greek art.
None show dismembered women's corpses in a basement that somewhat resemble what their fathers were arrested for.

is that what they showed?
I wouldn't know since all the images were blurred out
I only see one painting in the newsweek link and I don't see any connection to any victim in it

 

[fidgeypie]

Right, my point being that seeing actual photos or actual victims would influence her art and possible “interests.”

Okay you have a point but consider this, there are a lot of nasty gory horror movies out there? What if this has nothing to do with Rex just MOO and playing devil's advocate

 

[CuriousCricket]

As an attorney do you think if prosecutors had been aware of VH's social media contents they wouldn't have questioned her from the get-go?

Apparently VH was questioned. She was mentioned in the bail document in the discussion of the family vacationing in VT with one of VH's kindergarten friends. She's been questioned. Just because the public doesn't know something happened does not mean it didn't.

 

[AugustWest]

JR would welcome a lawsuit.

Especially the discovery.

His statements are easily disprovable. She was in a different state when AC's murder occurred, and she was too young to have the requisite mens rea for murder. All other extraneous information would be limited as non-relevant in a civil trial.

 

[iamshadow21]

Right, my point being that seeing actual photos or actual victims would influence her art and possible “interests.”

Or... She could have been a slightly morbid teenager. If you dug up the sketchbooks of me or my partner from about twenty-five years ago, you'd find a lot of skulls and things, too.

It just meant that I was watching Buffy, The Craft, and The Crow, like every other quirky, non preppy kid at my school, and I liked to draw.

Kids from VH's generation would have been watching things like Hannibal.

I'm not saying she didn't have an unhealthy homelife, but there's nothing to indicate she was present, much less a participant in any crime just because when she was younger she drew and reblogged some dead and gory things.

MOO

 

[Jade]

Frankly, it is none of our business what VH wonders at this point. And it remains so unless and until an ACTUAL connection is made via evidence (and NOT merely insinuation, or drawing inferences based on mere family relation) when we are talking about illustrations and fan fiction that MANY young people participate in.

This is witch hunting, plain and simple.

BBM


Evidence bombshell was the point of the press conference by the murdered family’s attorney:

>adding that Victoria's hairs are found on some of the dead bodies. <

Chilling Details Revealed About Rex Heuermann's daughter


Have you even seen the pictures and the descriptions?

If its fine why the outrage of the public viewing her art work? If all so innocent and VH’s interest is shared by “many young people”

VH signed her name to the art.

Why then would she be ashamed or angry about these supposedly innocent interests shared by many revelations?

Probably she doesn’t feel like she should be ashamed and isn’t.

> Following Rex Heuermann's first indictment, Victoria was seen wearing a shirt with "a human skeleton." <

Chilling Details Revealed About Rex Heuermann's daughter

I'm concerned for the families of the murdered victims.
VH and AH have their own world in that house they still live in using the crimes for income.

all imo

 

[LadyL]

JR would welcome a lawsuit.

he would welcome the publicity IMO

 

[Mountain_Kat]

It's particularly laughable to me that JR chose to begin this press conference by pointing out VH's clothes.

 

[Warwick7]

It is disturbing to me, too, but it doesn't justify John Ray making connections with specific RH's victims. VH was too young to be involved.

We don't know that. We don't know anything. We didn't even know about Rex in the beginning. Things just keep coming to light over and over and over.
VH's art, drawings, whatever it is called his is absolutely unhinged and disturbing.

 

[iamshadow21]

BBM


Evidence bombshell was the point of the press conference by the murdered family’s attorney:

>adding that Victoria's hairs are found on some of the dead bodies. <

Chilling Details Revealed About Rex Heuermann's daughter


Have you even seen the pictures and the descriptions?

If its fine why the outrage of the public viewing her art work? If all so innocent and VH’s interest is shared by “many young people”

VH signed her name to the art.

Why then would she be ashamed or angry about these supposedly innocent interests shared by many revelations?

Probably she doesn’t feel like she should be ashamed and isn’t.

> Following Rex Heuermann's first indictment, Victoria was seen wearing a shirt with "a human skeleton." <

Chilling Details Revealed About Rex Heuermann's daughter

I'm concerned for the families of the murdered victims.
VH and AH have their own world in that house they still live in using the crimes for income.

all imo

That wasn't a bombshell, we've known since the bail document that the hair found on Amber was VH's.

 

[AugustWest]

BBM


Evidence bombshell was the point of the press conference by the murdered family’s attorney:

>adding that Victoria's hairs are found on some of the dead bodies. <

Chilling Details Revealed About Rex Heuermann's daughter


Have you even seen the pictures and the descriptions?

If its fine why the outrage of the public viewing her art work? If all so innocent and VH’s interest is shared by “many young people”

VH signed her name to the art.

Why then would she be ashamed or angry about these supposedly innocent interests shared by many revelations?

Probably she doesn’t feel like she should be ashamed and isn’t.

> Following Rex Heuermann's first indictment, Victoria was seen wearing a shirt with "a human skeleton." <

Chilling Details Revealed About Rex Heuermann's daughter

I'm concerned for the families of the murdered victims.
VH and AH have their own world in that house they still live in using the crimes for income.

all imo

It's not about her artwork. It is about him implying she was connected to his crimes, particularly AC. She can dress up like a furry, get her freak on, and draw images of Charlie Chaplin without arms. This doesn't prove anything regarding AC's murder.

 

[AppleTreeGreen]

Except that's not true. Asa's been in the US since she was very young. She may have even been born here. My memory is fuzzy on that. So that makes this account unreliable, to me.

Yeah that was something that stood out to me in JR’s affidavit is that the witness states AE told RH brought her to the US when in fact AE was raised on LI. She also doesn’t speak with an accent according to those who knew her and gave interviews.

One thing I wondered also was what day did Valentine’s Day fall on in 1996? Apparently it was a Wednesday. Would RH and AE really risk having a sex party if they had work the next day? What about their son who possibly had school or lessons the next day? Where was he?

How much of a risk was RH, and AE if she was involved, willing to take by posting their actual home address, where possible previous and future murders would take place, in a popular swinger’s club like the Trapeze?

How much did RH trust AE at that point to involve her in the murders? How certain was he that she wouldn’t slip and confide in her sister, best friend or parents? How did he know she wouldn’t tell the police out of fear for herself and her son? Or in the name of justice? How did he know she wouldn’t hold it over head for the rest of their marriage or life?

How much risks were they willing to take by having two other witnesses leave alive after knowing Karen Vergata was still with them and would heinously be their next murder victim?

RH seems to like the type to compartmentalize his life and not let one aspect of his life, work, family, hobbies and the heinous murders he committed overlap or touch the other.

I still think it is possible that KV could be sadly another victim of RH/LISK but perhaps the tragedy unfolded not exactly in the way LP told it. For example, what if AE had to work the overnight schedule that evening and RH lies and says he would be home late as well she leaves their son with her parents and sister? This could give RH the time, space and opportunity to have the house to himself all night, lure KV into his vehicle before leaving Manhattan and commit his crimes and possibly remove the evidence before going to work or his wife and son get home.

JMO

 

[wcasewatch]

I think John Ray is desperately trying to stay relevant to the case. That press conference was a car crash.

 

[indicolite22]

BBM


Evidence bombshell was the point of the press conference by the murdered family’s attorney:

>adding that Victoria's hairs are found on some of the dead bodies. <

Chilling Details Revealed About Rex Heuermann's daughter


Have you even seen the pictures and the descriptions?

If its fine why the outrage of the public viewing her art work? If all so innocent and VH’s interest is shared by “many young people”

VH signed her name to the art.

Why then would she be ashamed or angry about these supposedly innocent interests shared by many revelations?

Probably she doesn’t feel like she should be ashamed and isn’t.

> Following Rex Heuermann's first indictment, Victoria was seen wearing a shirt with "a human skeleton." <

Chilling Details Revealed About Rex Heuermann's daughter

I'm concerned for the families of the murdered victims.
VH and AH have their own world in that house they still live in using the crimes for income.

all imo

Furries and skeletons on clothing mean nothing, but some of the pictures (not art) shown were too disturbing. I stopped watching and just listened.

 

[zvzvzvzv]

I think in order to sue she'd have to prove those weren't her paintings or blog posts and it would up a can of worms!

They were not her paintings or blog posts but he sure made it seem that way. Most of the images were from accounts she followed on Tumblr, no evidence she ever even saw those particular images. She did make the sculpture of the skull and the abstract painting JR claimed displayed a "furry bu++ plug". You can find her actual art by searching the username spelled out in the presser, it's juvenile and nothing like the examples he showed.

 

[Warwick7]

It's not about her artwork. It is about him implying she was connected to his crimes, particularly AC. She can dress up like a furry, get her freak on, and draw images of Charlie Chaplin without arms. This doesn't prove anything regarding AC's murder.

BBM
It was about the fact that Rex was not leading a double life. That is what it was about.