Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023

[Ruminations]

There must be someone, somewhere who might have a nice thing to say about RH.
We've heard next to nothing from anyone who once knew him, mostly his neighbors or associates/employees, a former student from his school.
When I watched him in that video where he was interviewed, to me he just seemed like a big galoot, nerdy, awkward.
IMO

He had a coworker who slipped on the ice and reported Rex went out of his way to get her and MRI for a dx, home, and picked up a prescription.

On retrospect and with the charges in mind, it seems like grooming behavior, but on its face it seemed "nice" to her.

MOO

 

[fred&edna]

Did the wife live in the house? Wasn't RH living in Freeport when they married? Witness #3 did live in the target house. Yes, found it, RH was in Freeport in 1990, the year he married. Perhaps when he and wife split, he moved back to his family home, then moved another woman in. I'm fairly sure LE has indicated that Witness #3 was not the ex-wife.

When did his mother move out of the house? Was it before or after first wife left the home? I need a timeline refresher every time I think about who lived where and when, and who moved in and when.

 

[Betty P]

And what would they say? It's either going to be . . . "he hid it really well and I didn't suspect anything." or it's going to be ""Yeah old Rex, he's a creep. I totally knew he was a serial killer." In which case, why would you ever say that out loud to anybody.

People can sometimes provide helpful information about things he did or said around the times of the murders. They can sometimes provide things to help clarify timelines and evidence. Did they see RH on a certain day with mud on his car, like he was stuck somewhere? Did anyone ever see him in certain locations looking to pick up women? Lots of things.

Prosecutors are going to have to do some work on a couple of the cases where there's no DNA or similar evidence. No cell phone data, etc. They probably could use more information.

 

[snooptroop88]

Indeed. Plus, I'm wondering why RH's mother would move out of her longtime home. Was the couple arguing all the time? Did it get violent? Just have to wonder.

YES!!! Totally agreed on this! His mother was gone it looks like immediately. So he bought the "family home," the home his parents raised him in, which implies all this devotion and attachment. But then I'm guessing immediately afterwards, the supposed object of all that devotion was out the door. You really have to wonder what drove that dynamic. NOT sure what that could mean, but it's definitely interesting!

 

[CuriousCricket]

When did his mother move out of the house? Was it before or after first wife left the home? I need a timeline refresher every time I think about who lived where and when, and who moved in and when.

According to the bail document, Rex's mother moved out of the home two months before Witness #3 left in September 1993.

 

[CuriousCricket]

YES!!! Totally agreed on this! His mother was gone it looks like immediately. So he bought the "family home," the home his parents raised him in, which implies all this devotion and attachment. But then I'm guessing immediately afterwards, the supposed object of all that devotion was out the door. You really have to wonder what drove that dynamic. NOT sure what that could mean, but it's definitely interesting!

"Heuermann purchased the humble six-room home in 1994 for $170,000."

Town looking to buy Gilgo Beach suspect Rex Heuermann’s home, which has become a magnet for gawkers

Rex Heuermann bought the Massapequa Park property in 1994 for $170,000, it’s now valued at an estimated $635,000

nypost.com

It appears likely RH was single when he bought the house.

 

[fred&edna]

One might assume losing this wrongful death lawsuit in Nov 1993 (same month and yr as Sandra Costilla's death) filed by CR could have been a upsetting factor for RH and his family, maybe??

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[snooptroop88]

"Heuermann purchased the humble six-room home in 1994 for $170,000."

Town looking to buy Gilgo Beach suspect Rex Heuermann’s home, which has become a magnet for gawkers

Rex Heuermann bought the Massapequa Park property in 1994 for $170,000, it’s now valued at an estimated $635,000

nypost.com

It appears likely RH was single when he bought the house.

Okay, and the mother was already gone, and Witness 3 was already gone. Seeing it was sold in May of 1994. So they didn't even wait until he formally purchased it. Wonder what was going on with that.

Price History​

Date	Event	Price	Price/Sqft	Source
03/24/1998	Sold	$195,000	$147	Public Record
05/12/1994	Sold	$170,000	$128	Public Record

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/105-1st-Ave_Massapequa-Park_NY_11762_M45374-98206

 

[justagirlfromqueens]

Did the wife live in the house? Wasn't RH living in Freeport when they married? Witness #3 did live in the target house. Yes, found it, RH was in Freeport in 1990, the year he married. Perhaps when he and wife split, he moved back to his family home, then moved another woman in. I'm fairly sure LE has indicated that Witness #3 was not the ex-wife.

I wonder if he was living at this address in 1989. does anyone know? Carmen Vargas' body was found in September 1989 with her ankles tied off the meadowbrook parkway less than a mile south of merrick road which is about a 1.5 mile drive from this address. she was very petite so would fit his type. she immediately popped into my mind when I saw this address (93 Bedell street Freeport NY)

 

[fred&edna]

Okay, and the mother was already gone, and Witness 3 was already gone. Seeing it was sold in May of 1994. So they didn't even wait until he formally purchased it. Wonder what was going on with that.

Price History​

Date	Event	Price	Price/Sqft	Source
03/24/1998	Sold	$195,000	$147	Public Record
05/12/1994	Sold	$170,000	$128	Public Record

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/105-1st-Ave_Massapequa-Park_NY_11762_M45374-98206

That's interesting. I'm puzzled.

 

[fred&edna]

I wonder if he was living at this address in 1989. does anyone know? Carmen Vargas' body was found in September 1989 with her ankles tied off the meadowbrook parkway less than a mile south of merrick road which is about a 1.5 mile drive from this address. she was very petite so would fit his type. she immediately popped into my mind when I saw this address (93 Bedell street Freeport NY)

“I believe he did it when he first started killing,” she alleged of Heuermann, who reportedly worked in Freeport at the time, 11 years before the Gilgo Four’s bodies were found.


Vargas was 29 in 1989 when her body was found dumped on the side of the Meadowbrook State Parkway in Freeport, about 7 miles west of Heuermann’s lifelong home in Massapequa Park.

NY officials probing Gilgo Beach suspect Rex Heuermann in unsolved 1989 murder

The 29-year-old’s body was found dumped on the side of the Meadowbrook State Parkway in Freeport that summer, about 7 miles west of Heuermann’s Massapequa Park lifelong home.

nypost.com

 

[Izzylizzy]

Okay, and the mother was already gone, and Witness 3 was already gone. Seeing it was sold in May of 1994. So they didn't even wait until he formally purchased it. Wonder what was going on with that.

Price History​

Date	Event	Price	Price/Sqft	Source
03/24/1998	Sold	$195,000	$147	Public Record
05/12/1994	Sold	$170,000	$128	Public Record

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/105-1st-Ave_Massapequa-Park_NY_11762_M45374-98206

Who bought the place on 3/24/98?

I've never seen anything about this sale, just that
RH bought it in 94'.

 

[LadyL]

yes, yes.
We do keep bringing this up on the threads, but with all the posts and pages, it gets "lost in translation" ha ha.

I don't know if it has been specifically been stated that they found such technology.... but I strongly believe he used something like Seri, or more modern versions. Audio translation tools have been around for decades, and they do misspell.

Siri wasn't invented until 2011. He wrote the document in 2002 or 2003 - I can't remember which.

 

[LadyL]

Agree with you. I had a Palm Pilot just like the one HR used and where they found the macabre lists. That little device was the latest in technology at the time, and it was possible to hand write in its touchscreen display using a small stylo. Then it was possible to converted it into text. Of course, the text recognition technology of that time was not what it is today, it required to write each character certain way for it to be interpreted correctly. That’s why It was rather common to come across misspelled or changed words
Pretty sure said conversion caused the disorganizizing thing

It was a Microsoft Word document. Were Palm Pilots compatible with Microsoft Word documents? I suspect not but I'm having trouble understanding most of what I can find on the subject. It looks like Microsoft was in competition with Palm Pilot. It does make sense, though, that it's that kind of conversion that caused the spelling errors.

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[snarast]

He had a coworker who slipped on the ice and reported Rex went out of his way to get her and MRI for a dx, home, and picked up a prescription.

On retrospect and with the charges in mind, it seems like grooming behavior, but on its face it seemed "nice" to her.

MOO

Or just enjoying watching a woman in pain.

 

[snarast]

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Fortunately, there are other operative systems than Windows. He could have used some open source software.

He could also have been misspelling on purpose. Or have had poor eyesight for shorter distances.

 

[LadyL]

I don't think RH is necessarily a bad speller. It's likely that the text was not written manually but rather using a dictation method, such as Apple's Siri or Google's Voice Typing, which resulted in some unusual spelling errors.

Microsoft seems to have brought speech recognition products to the public in 2002 but it wasn't until 2007 that Windows Vista incorporated speech recognition. He wrote the Microsoft Word document in 2002 I think. But I do agree that something like this may have happened. It's just that with his OCD personality and attention to detail, as described by those who worked with him, I would think he would correct the errors. JMO.

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[LadyL]

Fortunately, there are other operative systems than Windows. He could have used some open source software.

He could also have been misspelling on purpose. Or have had poor eyesight for shorter distances.

compatible with Microsoft Word and on a palm pilot?

 

[snarast]

compatible with Microsoft Word and on a palm pilot?

I don’t know about that…is it known for sure what OS he used?

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Maybe RH wrote his manifesto in the dark, maybe even while sitting outside in his car?
Capitol letters are easier to see and to type some things, maybe more so when only using one hand.
Could it be a change in writing style when altered by alcohol or other?
speculation, imo, fwiw

Interesting you had this thought, dotr. I have always suspected that LISK drunk dials. Maybe he drunk writes, as well.