Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023

[CuriousCricket]

I wish we knew more about DEREK.

Yep, don't we just? BTW, I don't have any idea what I would do if I were Derek. He'd have to know they'd find him. I'd think the smart thing to do --- IF he even sees or becomes aware of his name becoming public in this monstrous case -- would be to call LE and say, "Hey, I'm Derek. I can not believe this." But I'd probably put it off for a long time.

 

[x_files]

Yep, don't we just?

waiting for the trial is hard.

 

[NoSpoonFeeding]

Rex says he make furniture. Maybe he just means crude tables for torture. Maybe he made that rather nice bench on the porch. But either way, I bet he can cut his own 6x6

That very hefty bench's legs look to be 4X4's and if you look to the side of bench to AE's left, you can see the difference in size between the porch/ overhang post and the bench. The porch post is larger, as it should be. A 6X6 is actually 5.5" and a 4X4 is 3.5".
6X6 posts are expensive, they would be overkill and unnecessary for anything less than structural support. If I got some shorter ones for free, I might rip them down to repurpose, otherwise it would be throwing money away.

 

[Onlyguessing23]

Did Derek know what he might be building? Maybe he was just using Rex saw? I can't imagine Rex needed help to cut them

Depending on how long the 6x6 posts are, he might need another person to support it while sawing.

 

[PickleChris]

Don't think info was specific.
Article says, "on July 3 in Brady Park, which is just a few minutes’ drive from Heuermann’s home on 1st Avenue in Massapequa Park."

He approached her, breathing behind her and close enough to see photo of her boyfriend on her phone. RH asked for the time, kept popping up, asked her name and if she came there often. terrifying.

Exclusive | Long Island woman, 25, reveals recent disturbing encounter with Gilgo Beach serial killings suspect Rex Heuermann

“My mom showed me the picture and I started screaming. I got so nervous because I realized that that was him,” Ally told The Post.

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Brady has a history with strange things happening on the west side of the park by the train tracks. If you grew up in the area, I'm sure you have some stories about that area. It's definitely a spot worth looking around.

 

[CuriousCricket]

Brady has a history with strange things happening on the west side of the park by the train tracks. If you grew up in the area, I'm sure you have some stories about that area. It's definitely a spot worth looking around.

What kind of things?

 

[Just K]

I wish this mysterious DEREK would please come forth.
If you were friends with Rex and noticed your name pop up- what would you do? Call the police and offer info. Or hire an attorney first, then call the police?
Does he have to come forward?

Maybe Derek is the male torso found near Jessica.

 

[Izzylizzy]

I don't know how, but Rex had a public defender. We don't know who is paying the attorneys for the family. They might just be satisfied with their own contracts with Peacock plus favors old and new. We have just been reminded that Spota allowed Macedonio to practice law after cocaine and bribe convictions.

I'm not at all comfortable with this documentary situation and I will not be watching it.

There is something very wrong about a witness saying she has nothing of value to say to LE, but has a million dollar statement for Peacock.

MOO

RH never had a Public Defender.
He was appointed/assigned Brown before his July 14,2023 court appearance by the judge who also sent the case to Judge Mazzei.
The case is so huge and the amount of evidence so overwhelming that besides appointing RH an overloaded cases public defender who may have no experience with defending an accused murderer no less 3 murders charges which is now 6 murders charges.
Brown gets paid hourly by the state,PD are on salary.
Brown now has IIRC: 3-4 (?) other lawyers on his team, he mentioned that after the last superseding indictment.
There's a list or a rotating list judges use for appointing lawyers.
Be it a PD or court assigned lawyer the state pays.

 

[dotr]

I wonder if DEREK is a real person or even an accomplice. Or someone who he wants to blame?

Seems like 'someone' associated with the number 6, the ''6x6 wood' and the airport pickup also @ 6. imo.

 

[Just K]

Seems like 'someone' associated with the number 6, the ''6x6 wood' and the airport pickup also @ 6. imo.

Great catch!

 

[willy wagtail]

Maybe Derek is the male torso found near Jessica.

Well there is no note to take Derek back to the airport !!

 

[minazoe]

he could run a 6X 6 through a radial arm saw and have two 3X6's or 4 3X3's which is what could be holding up the deck.

mOO

 

[Onlyguessing23]

I’m reading (Wed 7/16/2003) “pick up Derek at 6 am for airport” as though he’s taking Derek TO the airport - maybe a commuter, since he plans to be back by Sunday 7/27/2003 to saw posts. Or maybe Derek works at the airport and needed a ride in..?

 

[fred&edna]

I think I saw it rumored somewhere that Derek could be a possible RH relative. I have not done any research into this AT ALL. So, I have no proof either way. jmo

 

[CuriousCricket]

Seems like 'someone' associated with the number 6, the ''6x6 wood' and the airport pickup also @ 6. imo.

Let's hope RH didn't put Derek 6 feet under.

 

[NoSpoonFeeding]

Depending on how long the 6x6 posts are, he might need another person to support it while sawing.

Typically, a post or beam that large is cut on the ground with a circular saw with the cut end raised and supported, unless it's put into the ground or already secured to a structure. It would be difficult to handle and install the porch posts without help, especially if you haven't done it before.

he could run a 6X 6 through a radial arm saw and have two 3X6's or 4 3X3's which is what could be holding up the deck.

mOO

A 6X6 is 5.5". Too expensive to buy to rip to a 4X4 which is readily available. I don't think he has a radial arm saw in that little packed garage. MOO I'm no expert but I grew up with a structural engineer and I inherited his radial arm saw.

 

[Izzylizzy]

he could run a 6X 6 through a radial arm saw and have two 3X6's or 4 3X3's which is what could be holding up the deck.

mOO

If this is true about a Derek and the 6x6s why didn't RH just buy them cut from the lumber yard?
LE has the phone records from that timeline and I think it was his personal phone?
I forget the date and the year of that entry,I do remember the "wife" has gone to Vermont and he's going shooting out East.
Talking about the saw I had recently read in one of the RH articles that forensics can tell from the dismembered if it was a right or left hander responsible but is that a hand-saw or electric saw or both?

 

[Izzylizzy]

Well there is no note to take Derek back to the airport !!

SCREAM!

 

[Ruminations]

he could run a 6X 6 through a radial arm saw and have two 3X6's or 4 3X3's which is what could be holding up the deck.

mOO

Yes but the pictures with lumber are not from 2002. In 2011, there are no extra supports yet, either.

And, why would a furniture making hobbiest need someone from out of town to cut his lumber?

Edited to add: I guess Derek could be a person returning home, rather than from out of town.

MOO

 

[Diddian]

Well, there are three things.

1) We don't know how long victims were kept alive, nor do we know how long they were kept deceased. (Jessica, happy heavenly birthday, sweet angel, is the only victim we have a clear clue as to possible torso disposal date.)

2) There is a highly credible question about the dates of the Atlantic City trip.

3) Even if the family is shown to be away abduction through disposal of evidence, there would have to be clues like the construction and drain cleaning and burning and staining, possible new tires, old box of garbage bags, which was hardly used, has been replaced with a new package, etc. I get how hindsight is a different thing from knowing real time, and I know coercive control is likely, and can cause one to see what the controller wishes to be seen. So for this reason, I'd understand if the other residents of the house would not know what signs were signs. But they are witnesses and they have seen signs even if they don't know what they are. (In the spirit of presumption of innocence: what they saw, even if they can't identify it, could be exonerating evidence.)

Don't confuse being a witness and being accused. They are different things.

MOO

The note on the calendar says “pick up Derek at 6 am for airport.” Not FROM airport.

Without knowing more, we cannot know if that means Derek was departing by air, arriving by air, or picking something up at the airport.

Given the early morning hour, I think it more likely RH was giving Derek a ride to the airport for an early morning departing flight. And given that, I think it likely Derek lives in the area, temporarily flew out, but had returned sometime in the intervening week or so to be at RH’s for the cutting of the post (if in fact Derek did that and the notation was not simply to provide cover to the sound of RH using the band saw to cut something substantial).

Perhaps RH picked Derek up at the airport when Derek returned and didn’t put it in his calendar, or perhaps Derek found another means of getting home from the airport when he returned.