Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023

[NoSpoonFeeding]

If this is true about a Derek and the 6x6s why didn't RH just buy them cut from the lumber yard?
LE has the phone records from that timeline and I think it was his personal phone?
I forget the date and the year of that entry,I do remember the "wife" has gone to Vermont and he's going shooting out East.
Talking about the saw I had recently read in one of the RH articles that forensics can tell from the dismembered if it was a right or left hander responsible but is that a hand-saw or electric saw or both?

I'm confused about so much confusion about the 6X6 posts. You can't precut at the lumber yard. You don't buy them to rip to a smaller post. You must cut posts on site to an exact measurement. For example, the posts on the porch, they needed to be measured individually, the cement porch is not going to be perfectly level and equidistant from the roof/overhang for the entire length of the porch.

 

[Onlyguessing23]

If this is true about a Derek and the 6x6s why didn't RH just buy them cut from the lumber yard?

It’s possible that he is repurposing lumber from railroad ties, old decking material, or old heavy-duty pallets.

 

[Tigerlily81]

I’ve also ruminated over what RH meant with “miss-leaders.”

It is included in a long list of types of evidence that a perpetrator would need to take care not to leave if he intends to avoid detection.

There are so many spelling errors on the document that I think it likely this is yet another and RH meant to write “misleaders,” in which case I’m inclined to think he means leaving something with a body that points to someone other than him OR that might lead to a profile which differs substantially from his.

Alternatively, he could mean something untrue (a misdirection) that he tells the escort when making arrangements to meet so that if the escort tells others (a driver, another escort, a friend, or protector), those others will repeat that to anyone concerned, including LE, so that LE investigates based upon untrue information.

I think you're onto something here. His spelling and grammar are atrocious and "misleaders" makes the most sense out of that part of the checklist.

 

[x_files]

Seems like 'someone' associated with the number 6, the ''6x6 wood' and the airport pickup also @ 6. imo.

So if Derek isn't a real person it may be code for something.
Or he used hanging out with Derek (friend/family member) as an excuse, a cover story.

 

[Izzylizzy]

I'm confused about so much confusion about the 6X6 posts. You can't precut at the lumber yard. You don't buy them to rip to a smaller post. You must cut posts on site to an exact measurement. For example, the posts on the porch, they needed to be measured individually, the cement porch is not going to be perfectly level and equidistant from the roof/overhang for the entire length of the porch.

It's obvious I know zilch about lumber.
Thanks.

Here Macedonio talks about the "there is no sex dungeon" and he describes what it looks like,open ceiling , 2x4s.

around 2:00

 

[willy wagtail]

Let's hope RH didn't put Derek 6 feet under.

 

[Izzylizzy]

Seems like 'someone' associated with the number 6, the ''6x6 wood' and the airport pickup also @ 6. imo.

666 explains everything,

 

[minazoe]

I have a feeling his misspellings are clever in some way only to him , maybe he likes to tinker with words . like spelling "thanks" as thanx. for instance . also this 666 thing could be something. Rex would not be the first to obscure facts with coded words and symbols. but he's not really very smart is he?
You don't write down how you are going about obscuring your crime...lol, Rex is an idiot and he got caught, and he wrote it all down...I don't know who this dude is , this Derek..could it just be an architect or business thing?
is Derek male? female? would he need a 6x6 to take him down? was he done away with and tossed early in the morning
out near an airport?
mOO

 

[Onlyguessing23]

I have a feeling his misspellings are clever in some way only to him , maybe he likes to tinker with words . like spelling "thanks" as thanx. for instance . also this 666 thing could be something. Rex would not be the first to obscure facts with coded words and symbols. but he's not really very smart is he?
You don't write down how you are going about obscuring your crime...lol, Rex is an idiot and he got caught, and he wrote it all down...I don't know who this dude is , this Derek..could it just be an architect or business thing?
is Derek male? female? would he need a 6x6 to take him down? was he done away with and tossed early in the morning
out near an airport?
mOO

Along the same lines of being too clever by half… I’ve entertained the possibility that his “MISS-LEADERS??” entry under PROBLEMS might refer to SWs that he presumed were female, but turned out to be male. Miss-leading…

 

[Ruminations]

I have a feeling his misspellings are clever in some way only to him , maybe he likes to tinker with words . like spelling "thanks" as thanx. for instance . also this 666 thing could be something. Rex would not be the first to obscure facts with coded words and symbols. but he's not really very smart is he?
You don't write down how you are going about obscuring your crime...lol, Rex is an idiot and he got caught, and he wrote it all down...I don't know who this dude is , this Derek..could it just be an architect or business thing?
is Derek male? female? would he need a 6x6 to take him down? was he done away with and tossed early in the morning
out near an airport?
mOO

Rex did delete the blueprint document, as planned. He may have been making inside jokes to amuse himself, but I doubt this is coded. He thought it would never be found.

The planner might have been coded or intended to be read or even have been a deceiver itself. Maybe Derek doesn't exist but Rex wanted to do something at 5:00 before the sun came up. Then he wanted to explain wood chips and workshop activity.

MOO

 

[Just K]

I have a feeling his misspellings are clever in some way only to him , maybe he likes to tinker with words . like spelling "thanks" as thanx. for instance . also this 666 thing could be something. Rex would not be the first to obscure facts with coded words and symbols. but he's not really very smart is he?
You don't write down how you are going about obscuring your crime...lol, Rex is an idiot and he got caught, and he wrote it all down...I don't know who this dude is , this Derek..could it just be an architect or business thing?
is Derek male? female? would he need a 6x6 to take him down? was he done away with and tossed early in the morning
out near an airport?
mOO

He very well may have killed the males with severe trauma to the head. He did have T (UNk- Black) on his planning doc.

 

[Forest_Wood]

Plus, we know she had a DNA cheek swab. So, did she likely go to the Police Station for that? Or would LE have been prepared when they first went to tell her of RH's arrest?

Good question! You'd think she'd have to go in to have it done?

 

[minazoe]

I kinda went off with out reading all the details..busy day..but you never write stuff down and nothing is really deleted and there are all kinds of ways this stuff can still be retrieved as happened here.
I am super interested in knowing how many victims he has and when he is going to come clean and tell us he has victims going back to the eighties and there are murders that he can clear up for LE . I feel like his DNA is going to ping on cases in Manhattan etc. He better start dealing, he's not getting off and CODIS is looming..he's never going home so..

if he pulled anything in SC they will pull the switch on him. he has to be nervous.. you know Bundy got around, Keyes was always on the move...is Rex a homeboy ? or did he cross State lines? I really wish we could know all his different locales and all his travels. mOO

 

[Ruminations]

Good question! You'd think she'd have to go in to have it done?

I would think they would have a kit on hand for any moment she seemed amenable to giving the sample voluntarily. It's just a q-tip and a container- a very simple test.


MOO

 

[eishish]

666 explains everything,

He does think he is cute...the harassing phone calls, etc. Cld see this

 

[NoSpoonFeeding]

Plus, we know she had a DNA cheek swab. So, did she likely go to the Police Station for that? Or would LE have been prepared when they first went to tell her of RH's arrest?

LE served the first search warrant at the house as RH was being arrested, so they would have been prepared. I would be surprised if a warrant didn't include a cheek swap for everyone in the family. They wouldn't just hope for cooperation or want that the swabbing could in anyway be claimed to be done under duress. Warrant is always the best course. Have we seen a return of service that shows cheek swabs? It could be separate and not released.

 

[snooptroop88]

He flies into town to borrow a saw?

It is weird. Derek is probably part of the getting the story straight step.

MOO

Okay, this is too weird for words, but just yesterday, I looked into the idea of whether they make silencers for chainsaws. They do. There are "chainsaw mufflers" and chainsaw muffler systems. There have been reduced to no-noise chainsaws being manufactured since 1959. (Rough estimate, I was just poking around at the time.)

So this person flew into town to borrow a saw?

 

[willy wagtail]

The note on the calendar says “pick up Derek at 6 am for airport.” Not FROM airport.

Without knowing more, we cannot know if that means Derek was departing by air, arriving by air, or picking something up at the airport.

Given the early morning hour, I think it more likely RH was giving Derek a ride to the airport for an early morning departing flight. And given that, I think it likely Derek lives in the area, temporarily flew out, but had returned sometime in the intervening week or so to be at RH’s for the cutting of the post (if in fact Derek did that and the notation was not simply to provide cover to the sound of RH using the band saw to cut something substantial).

Perhaps RH picked Derek up at the airport when Derek returned and didn’t put it in his calendar, or perhaps Derek found another means of getting home from the airport when he returned.

Maybe Derek is a shooting buddy for Peconic

 

[snooptroop88]

Maybe Derek is a shooting buddy for Peconic

Wondering too if Bittrolff might have been shooting at Peconic, which has a sign outside noting established 1948.

 

[fred&edna]

Is there an associated phone number with "Derek", or a phone number that corresponds to RH's airport notation or the cutting 6x6's note??

Derek a construction guy?? 'Just the mention of "CCC" or "construction crew" gives me the creeps. Thinking aloud since my post about Gacy using construction crew to spread lyme in the crawlspace of his house.

jmo