Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023

[Mr.Dandy]

my vibe is many more victims, way more than 7 ..he hasn't even been run through Codis yet..too bad there's no incentive for him to talk..none. and South Carolina? Alabama? now they will execute him if he murdered in the Deep South..did he? we all know what he did when AE was out of town,right? But what did he do when he was out of town? If he killed in a DP state I hope they can eventually get him with DNA ..BTK killed in a DP state but there's no DNA and that's why he won't confess to the laundromat murder because he doesn't want to be executed in Oklahoma.

if he murdered peaches and her baby, imagine the cruelty he is capable of, he may have male victims too..so this shows
he switches up his game...doesn't always do the same thing..and maybe in the past nothing happened in his house...but he found it way more convenient and fun to murder at home where he had all the time in the world to live out his fantasies..where as other situations were on a tighter schedule or required quick killing and dumping as for instance if he murdered SG in the wetland area, well he had to do it and just leave her there because it wasn't practical to move her with people out there so quickly searching.

I think Rex was always looking to get his kicks. He may have even murdered as a child like Bundy who murdered when he was very young but wasn't suspected.

with a CODIS run they can go way back in the wayback machine and see what pops up. And the Manorville male victims ?
I could see him doing those too and keeping them separate..wonder if there is a club over there that caters to men ?

yes Rex likes to get his kicks and you know you can't always get what you want...

I was actually thinking that might be all of his victims…. Previously I thought he had a ton but I’m not so sure now. He’s seems to have a pretty set method and type. Just my opinion, but we’ll see.

 

[DS2021]

he hasn't even been run through Codis yet

if he left similar evidence in other crime scenes theres a good chance that it wont be in CODIS. AFAIK codis only allows nuclear dna in the index his dna would be compared to,

collecting nuclear dna from rootless hair is a fairly new process, i doubt its cheap either. Unless LE in those jurisdictions are going thru old cases and using new tech to collect dna, im not sure how much CODIS will be of help

 

[thermpro]

my vibe is many more victims, way more than 7 ..he hasn't even been run through Codis yet..too bad there's no incentive for him to talk..none. and South Carolina? Alabama? now they will execute him if he murdered in the Deep South..did he? we all know what he did when AE was out of town,right? But what did he do when he was out of town? If he killed in a DP state I hope they can eventually get him with DNA ..BTK killed in a DP state but there's no DNA and that's why he won't confess to the laundromat murder because he doesn't want to be executed in Oklahoma.

if he murdered peaches and her baby, imagine the cruelty he is capable of, he may have male victims too..so this shows
he switches up his game...doesn't always do the same thing..and maybe in the past nothing happened in his house...but he found it way more convenient and fun to murder at home where he had all the time in the world to live out his fantasies..where as other situations were on a tighter schedule or required quick killing and dumping as for instance if he murdered SG in the wetland area, well he had to do it and just leave her there because it wasn't practical to move her with people out there so quickly searching.

I think Rex was always looking to get his kicks. He may have even murdered as a child like Bundy who murdered when he was very young but wasn't suspected.

with a CODIS run they can go way back in the wayback machine and see what pops up. And the Manorville male victims ?
I could see him doing those too and keeping them separate..wonder if there is a club over there that caters to men ?

yes Rex likes to get his kicks and you know you can't always get what you want...

When did Bundy kill when he was young? the earliest mentioned was 1969 so he was like 24 or something.

 

[thermpro]

I was actually thinking that might be all of his victims…. Previously I thought he had a ton but I’m not so sure now. He’s seems to have a pretty set method and type. Just my opinion, but we’ll see.

But we had Costilla from 1993... and who knows where he killed her but obviously wasn't in his future home.

 

[Izzylizzy]

Something to maybe ponder knowing Tierney said all the evidence they have has not been divulged.

If I'm reading the the bail application correctly (end of page 20) it lists the news paper/magazine souvenirs that LE seized from RH's office and vault that only mention those victims that RH has been charged with murdering?

Does LE have other publications that mention Peaches and her child?
Asian Doe and any other identified or unidentified victims and are they're saving while working on other victim's cases?

"Umm" They found numerous news souvenirs in the Heuerman's "primary bedroom".

Thanks to sds17

begins on page 17
FINAL- LTI - Superseding-Bail-Application-12.17.2024

 

[DS2021]

But we had Costilla from 1993... and who knows where he killed her but obviously wasn't in his future home.

most likely in the home he lived in up until his arrest. His mom and ex had moved out in the months prior to the murder

 

[minazoe]

When did Bundy kill when he was young? the earliest mentioned was 1969 so he was like 24 or something.

There was a woman who was a neighbor, she was found strangled with the belt of her robe on her front lawn early one morning. I thought It had been long speculated she was his first victim. But I can't find anything about it, I'll have to look more.. But Ann Marie Burr happened when Bundy was 14 and he is a suspect in that case. She was a neighbor in Tacoma who was taken from her home and murdered. She was 8 years old. (was never proven).

 

[DS2021]

Does LE have other publications that mention Peaches and her child?
Asian Doe and any other identified or unidentified victims and are they're saving while working on other victim's cases?

I think they are being strategic in what they release. I think its entirely possible that theres more that they havent shared

 

[Forest_Wood]

Correction: 1993 Sandra Costilla.

Amber Costello was the last of the known series, not killed until 2010.

Thank you for correcting her name.

 

[Mr.Dandy]

But we had Costilla from 1993... and who knows where he killed her but obviously wasn't in his future home.

It could have been. He’s lived there his whole life….but I have speculated it was a car… I don’t know why. Just kinda got the feeling it could have been. IMO

 

[Mr.Dandy]

Why is everyone so convinced that he killed Peaches? It’s the hill many will die on that she was his victim! To me, her case doesn’t fit at all. She was black, had a child, was found with jewelry a towel, a pillow case and…. Had a child! She was also found in a completely different place. So you mean to tell me he dumps Sandra on one side of Long Island, then dumps peaches completely on the other side….then dumps Jessica and Valerie back where he dumped Sandra? (Not exactly but closer). Then he’s going to write his little killer to do list looking for a second dumpsite which he had already chosen if he killed peaches….you see that? That’s exactly why I don’t think he killed her. Because he hadn’t chosen Oak Beach yet. He chose Oak Beach with Valerie….and honestly, he was probably just driving around looking for a good spot. It was just a coincidence Peaches and her child happened to be there. It’s a good spot…..
I’ve even read some articles that say the police don’t think she’s one of his victims.she was most likely a domestic altercation.
I’ll admit I was wrong if I’m wrong…..but she just doesn’t fit to me.

 

[Mr.Dandy]

Why is everyone so convinced that he killed Peaches? It’s the hill many will die on that she was his victim! To me, her case doesn’t fit at all. She was black, had a child, was found with jewelry a towel, a pillow case and…. Had a child! She was also found in a completely different place. So you mean to tell me he dumps Sandra on one side of Long Island, then dumps peaches completely on the other side….then dumps Jessica and Valerie back where he dumped Sandra? (Not exactly but closer). Then he’s going to write his little killer to do list looking for a second dumpsite which he had already chosen if he killed peaches….you see that? That’s exactly why I don’t think he killed her. Because he hadn’t chosen Oak Beach yet. He chose Oak Beach with Valerie….and honestly, he was probably just driving around looking for a good spot. It was just a coincidence Peaches and her child happened to be there. It’s a good spot…..
I’ve even read some articles that say the police don’t think she’s one of his victims.she was most likely a domestic altercation.
I’ll admit I was wrong if I’m wrong…..but she just doesn’t fit to me.

 

[minazoe]

Why is everyone so convinced that he killed Peaches? It’s the hill many will die on that she was his victim! To me, her case doesn’t fit at all. She was black, had a child, was found with jewelry a towel, a pillow case and…. Had a child! She was also found in a completely different place. So you mean to tell me he dumps Sandra on one side of Long Island, then dumps peaches completely on the other side….then dumps Jessica and Valerie back where he dumped Sandra? (Not exactly but closer). Then he’s going to write his little killer to do list looking for a second dumpsite which he had already chosen if he killed peaches….you see that? That’s exactly why I don’t think he killed her. Because he hadn’t chosen Oak Beach yet. He chose Oak Beach with Valerie….and honestly, he was probably just driving around looking for a good spot. It was just a coincidence Peaches and her child happened to be there. It’s a good spot…..
I’ve even read some articles that say the police don’t think she’s one of his victims.she was most likely a domestic altercation.
I’ll admit I was wrong if I’m wrong…..but she just doesn’t fit to me.

she is a different profile, I will give you that. but a killer is a killer is a killer. could be a relationship he had. wish we knew who she was, wish we had her real name. mOO

 

[Mr.Dandy]

she is a different profile, I will give you that. but a killer is a killer is a killer. could be a relationship he had. wish we knew who she was, wish we had her real name. mOO

The part about peaches that baffles me the most IS her child. She had a mom, a dad. That was their grandchild…. And no one cared? Her baby had a dad too… who knows who he is… or if he even knew about his child. I wonder if they have done a genealogy on the child?

 

[Izzylizzy]

Law & Crime
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[IzzyBlanche]

The part about peaches that baffles me the most IS her child. She had a mom, a dad. That was their grandchild…. And no one cared? Her baby had a dad too… who knows who he is… or if he even knew about his child. I wonder if they have done a genealogy on the child?

Maybe her parents weren't living. Maybe she had no one in the world.

I hope I will live long enough to see justice for her.

 

[Mr.Dandy]

Maybe her parents weren't living. Maybe she had no one in the world.

I hope I will live long enough to see justice for her.

Well… no matter who killed her, I hope she sees justice too.

 

[Eaglette]

If this is 17 Dec 2024 - most recent photo - there is a lot to unpack:

Gilgo Beach suspect Rex Heuermann charged with seventh murder

Rex Heuermann, a New York architect, is accused of killing Valerie Mack, who was last seen by her family in New Jersey in 2000.

www.bbc.com

EDIT: Correct DOB: 13 Sept 1963 which makes RH 61yo

 

[snarast]

if he left similar evidence in other crime scenes theres a good chance that it wont be in CODIS. AFAIK codis only allows nuclear dna in the index his dna would be compared to,

collecting nuclear dna from rootless hair is a fairly new process, i doubt its cheap either. Unless LE in those jurisdictions are going thru old cases and using new tech to collect dna, im not sure how much CODIS will be of help

You have to start somewhere.

Also - I’ve said this before and I have some (WS-unverified) background in this area so it’s not ChatGPT i’m offering here - they have hopefully matched every single sequence in codis against eachother. Guess what you would get?

A serial killer cloud (several more likely but for simplicity) of sequences related to one another.

No year long genealogy studies, nothing just BLAST all the sequences against each other. The open source software has been available since the 80s - and that’s just for starters.

I don’t know if they are allowed to do this.

It is that simple. Very elementary. Of course you have to refine it and sort out things, but just doing all-gainst-all would very likely lead to some interesting fallout.

I just hope they do this in an automated fashion as a serial killer/rapist preventive measure.

IMHO

 

[Mr.Dandy]

He’s scary…. That look he has.. just plain scary.