Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023

[CuriousCricket]

At least, according to the plea agreement, he has to serve his life sentences consecutively, not concurrently. I hope he's not eligible for parole, either. Kind of unusual plea agreement when the prosecution had so much evidence against him.

ETA: There are 3 first degree murder charges to be served consecutively, so it seems pretty likely he will be in prison for life.

I've been thinking about this. While I believe RH was smirking because he believes he pulled something over on the State, I'm wondering if maybe he was allowed to think that in order for the prosecution to get what it wanted. Tierney is a seasoned DA. He's seen and dealt with ego and arrogance before.
The state got confession to guilt enough for three consecutive life sentences without parole or the right to appeal -- if I understood that correctly. If I am remembering correctly, at various times, attorneys or prosecutors on here have explained how much better it is to have a defendant pled it out than to put everything into the hands of a jury because there is truly never any way of knowing how a jury will go. These confessions are "bird in hand".

So, no more taxpayer money spent on a very expensive, drawn out trial, nor in the appeal or parole process. Also, I'm wondering if the FBI Behavioral aspect doesn't get RH into federal hands and completely off Suffolk County money. Is that a possibility? How does that work?

Of course RH is guilty of so many crimes: kidnapping, rape, torture and who can count them all. But to what real practical advantage would it be to charge and try him for all of them? He's in prison for the rest of his life. In New York, could any more be done?

Then, there's behind the scenes we know nothing about. The taskforce has continued to work. With RH in prison for life, perhaps Tierney can move on to other cases. With the suddenness and apparent speed we've seen here, I'm wondering if something else big might be in the works? Just musing and thinking here.

 

[Izzylizzy]

Heuermann will be sentenced on 17 June​

One last time, the judge has asked Heuermann to formally enter a plea for each murder count.

He says guilty to each one.

The judge set a sentencing date of 17 June, and Heuermann is escorted out.
Live updates: Gilgo Beach serial killer suspect Rex Heuermann pleads guilty

Josh Zeman & Laura Ingles were talking about until the sentencing he can change his mind and withdraw the guilty pleas.
Not that they anticipate him doing so.
imo

 

[CuriousCricket]

Apparently, it was Megan Waterman the Bounty towels of the rare design was tied to. How a Bounty paper towel linked Gilgo Beach murder victim to Rex Heuermann: DA

 

[NoSpoonFeeding]

BBM
There is alot more to come from all of this. This is just the tip of the iceberg. The clincher to capturing RH was the removal of James Burke and someone else, I cant think of his name. Burke was criticized for stalling the Gilgo investigation years before RH's capture.

February 2022 the newly appointed County Police Commissioner Rodney Harrison formed a special task force to investigate the Gilgo Beach murders.
The Timeline: Within six weeks of this new task force being formed and starting a "fresh look" at the evidence, investigators identified Rex Heuermann as a suspect in March 2022. Bam!!

Burke was in jail as of Dec 2015 so he wasn't stalling anything after that. More than 7 years passed before RH was identified so it doesn't seem his removal had much effect.

 

[Izzylizzy]

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[Warwick7]

Burke was in jail as of Dec 2015 so he wasn't stalling anything after that. More than 7 years passed before RH was identified so it doesn't seem his removal had much effect.

After reading article after article, I respectively disagree.

 

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I started watching this but had to leave for a zoom meeting. I was wondering if it was going to be good. Was it?

 

[sds71]

A Smirk and a Guilty Plea: Watching Rex Heuermann Own His Crimes

Rex Heuermann lumbered into Judge Timothy Mazzei's courtroom in Riverhead, New York just after 11 a.m. on Wednesday, April 8th. It was standing room only, with the architect's ex-wife and daughter, Victoria, managing to get seats in the back corner....

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[Ruminations]

Exactly.
RH's attorney is no dummy. By lumping in KV at the last minute RH won't be given further charges in her death. It's a "blocking" attempt.

Michael Brown knows how powerful Lorrain Paulino's affidavit is. LP is the only human who saw, met and talked with Asa Hauermann while Karen V. was delivered to and in that house.

That affidavit could have opened all kinds of answers. But, now we may never know.

Mt hinky meter says the prosecutors were not interested in going to court where the official resistance to investigation would be exposed- it's really Rex's only defense.

Rex made it more likely his wife keep any assets he transferred to her if less is known about the specifics of his crimes.

So, it's basically a win-win. The County is less exposed and the defendant is less exposed.

The rest of us can pound dirt if we want more honest government or Rex's victims to get, for example, the proceeds from selling Rex's guns and jeep.

MOO

 

[getthefax]

At least, according to the plea agreement, he has to serve his life sentences consecutively, not concurrently. I hope he's not eligible for parole, either. Kind of unusual plea agreement when the prosecution had so much evidence against him.

ETA: There are 3 first degree murder charges to be served consecutively, so it seems pretty likely he will be in prison for life.

BBM

He’s never coming out.

 

[su5ie]

BBM

He’s never coming out.

Thank God , he is a horrible and dangerous man

 

[ttjo]

He is 62. I'm wondering if he wanted to see if he could still pull one of these murders off. That could be an age when a man might begin to feel like he's aging and wants to see if he's still can because he knows age will begin to answer that question for him. Just pondering

Do you think that he knew there was so much evidence against him he know he would never win, or do you think that pleading allowed him to not feel caught, arrogantly keeping people wondering if there was more, he remains a mystery. He also didnt allow all the evidence to come out, all the work the detectives did, for years. They dont get to tell that story, but now he gets to talk at his discretion. Like bird feeding one crumb at a time
is his agreement to talk to the BAU about how serial killers operate or to tell more of what he did?
I wonder if the sudden stop was only that he changed the location where he dumped bodies.

 

[Betty P]

Burke was in jail as of Dec 2015 so he wasn't stalling anything after that. More than 7 years passed before RH was identified so it doesn't seem his removal had much effect.

Former FBI agent Geraldine Hart took over after Burke. She made some progress, but not a great deal. She’s the one who released the photos of Heuermann’s belt to the public, hoping someone would recognize it.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/22/us/gilgo-beach-killings-robert-kolker-netflix

There were also problems at the prosecutor’s office that continued to stall things.

Rodney Harrison really saved these cases. He took charge and created a multi jurisdictional task force. The rest is history.

Someone was being interviewed about this the other day. The FBI did a lot of work on this case over the years. They gathered a lot of data and gave it to Suffolk County PD, but they didn’t use it. They were low-tech and didn’t like using computer data analysis.

 

[Betty P]

BBM

He’s never coming out.

Let’s hope so.

 

[Eaglette]

And what will be the repercussions, for RH, if RH doesn't want to talk to the F.B.I., at any given time

e.g. If RH wanted a Bagel with Butter & Coke and they brought him Maccas & a Lemonade
A: Zero.

RH may never agree to chit chat - and there will be SFA anyone can about it..... eg "RH controls the narrative"

When/Where/If he does - because IMO I can't imagine RH's going to sing like a canary.

RH has the sick Power ! (still, in his mind).....(moving forward)

This is all Power for RH.... it's why he's still smirking !

 

[Betty P]

And what will be the repercussions, for RH, if RH doesn't want to talk to the F.B.I., at any given time

e.g. If RH wanted a Bagel with Butter & Coke and they brought him Maccas & a Lemonade
A: Zero.

RH may never agree to chit chat - and there will be SFA anyone can about it..... eg "RH controls the narrative"

When/Where/If he does - because IMO I can't imagine RH's going to sing like a canary.

RH has the sick Power ! (still, in his mind).....(moving forward)

This is all Power for RH.... it's why he's still smirking !

IIRC, according to the DA, if he doesn’t cooperate, the deal is off and they go to trial.

 

[NoSpoonFeeding]

Former FBI agent Geraldine Hart took over after Burke. She made some progress, but not a great deal. She’s the one who released the photos of Heuermann’s belt to the public, hoping someone would recognize it.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/22/us/gilgo-beach-killings-robert-kolker-netflix

There were also problems at the prosecutor’s office that continued to stall things.

Rodney Harrison really saved these cases. He took charge and created a multi jurisdictional task force. The rest is history.

Someone was being interviewed about this the other day. The FBI did a lot of work on this case over the years. They gathered a lot of data and gave it to Suffolk County PD, but they didn’t use it. They were low-tech and didn’t like using computer data analysis.

I'm in LE, homicide detectives don't include prosecutors or take direction from them, in active ongoing investigations when there is no suspect. The claim that the removal of Burke somehow led to progress when it took more than another 7 years to find RH after Burke left, is what I questioned. Burke's relationship with prosecutors wasn't relevant to the investigation, they don't have any involvement in the day to day work of police departments. <modsnip>I certainly don't wish to rehash all of that.
MOO

 

[everlearning]

Do you think that he knew there was so much evidence against him he know he would never win, or do you think that pleading allowed him to not feel caught, arrogantly keeping people wondering if there was more, he remains a mystery. He also didnt allow all the evidence to come out, all the work the detectives did, for years. They dont get to tell that story, but now he gets to talk at his discretion. Like bird feeding one crumb at a time
is his agreement to talk to the BAU about how serial killers operate or to tell more of what he did?
I wonder if the sudden stop was only that he changed the location where he dumped bodies.

I definitely believe his decision was for a purpose that we don't know yet. I doubt he does anything on a whim. He was too smug.

 

[LadyL]

Very interesting. Thanks for that info. It's a strange haircut, indeed. Oddly enough, he probably thinks its attractive. JMO

reminds me of Hitler's hairstyle

 

[getthefax]

I definitely believe his decision was for a purpose that we don't know yet. I doubt he does anything on a whim. He was too smug.

I think he k ew the case against him were airtight and this was his only chance at any sort of concessions in the future. This way he is spared the Vergata case AND gets special “attention” from the FBI.

Importantly, this deal doesn’t prevent him from being brought on charges for other murders. I’m guessing he’s hoping none more come to light. We shall see… but I’m guessing we have not heard about the last of his victims. MOO