Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 7 murders, July 2023 #16

[Betty P]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1935569924602142899

"The Gilgo Beach serial killer suspect uttered the words 'good job'
to one of his defense attorneys during the critical murder trial hearing taking place this week.

Defense attorney Danielle Coysh
was given the high praise by accused murderer Rex Heuermann
after she wrapped up her questioning with their expert defense witness Nathaniel Adams,
a systems engineer at Ohio-based Forensic Bioinformatic Services, Inc,
Newsday reported.

Coysh has been an integral part of Heuermann's legal team
and has been working alongside lead attorney Michael Brown since Heuermann's arrest in July 2023."

I wonder if she’s flattered at the compliment from him?

 

[minazoe]

I wonder if she’s flattered at the compliment from him?

barf.

 

[Dotta]

It is her job folks.
Hazard of the job.

JMO

 

[333_OnlyHalfEvil]

by Jared Hatcliffe | Mar 31, 2025

The Gilgo Beach Murders – The Defense’s Attempt to Preclude DNA Evidence | The Advocate's Advantage

haubadvocacy.blogs.pace.edu

See the chart below for a summary of the DNA results.​

VICTIM	DESIGNATION IN BAIL LETTER	APPROX. LOCATION OF HAIR RECOVERY	MITOCHONDRIAL DNA RESULTS	NUCLEAR (SNP) DNA RESULTS
SANDRA COSTILLA	MALE HAIR ON COSTILLA	TAPE-LIFT OF STRIPED SHIRT ABOVE VICTIM’S HEAD	99.96% of North American population can be excluded, but not REX HEUERMANN	4.347 x 10332 Times More Likely to Come From An Individual with the Identical Genetic Profile as REX HEUERMANN
SANDRA COSTILLA	FEMALE HAIR ON COSTILLA	VICTIM’S RIGHT ARM	99.98% of North American population can be excluded but not WITNESS 3	4.578 x 101040 Times More Likely to Come From An Individual with the Identical Genetic Profile as WITNESS 3
VALERIE MACK	FEMALE HAIR ON MACK	INSIDE GARBAGE BAGS CONTAINING VICTIM, NEAR VICTIM’S LEFT WRIST	99.65% of the North American population can be excluded but not ASA ELLERUP or VICTORIA HEUERMANN	1.31 x 10356 Times More Likely to Come From An Individual with the Identical Genetic Profile as VICTORIA HEUERMANN6
JESSICA TAYLOR	MALE HAIR UNDERNEATH TAYLOR	ON SURGICAL DRAPE UNDERNEATH VICTIM	99.96% of North American population can be excluded, but not REX HEUERMANN	1.837 x 10603 Times More Likely to Come From An Individual with the Identical Genetic Profile as REX HEUERMANN
MAUREEN BRAINARD BARNES	FEMALE HAIR ON BARNES	BUCKLE OF BELT RESTRAINING LOWER BODY	N/A	7.9 Trillion Times More Likely to Come From An Individual with the Identical Genetic Profile as ASA ELLERUP
MEGAN WATERMAN	[FIRST OF] TWO FEMALE HAIRS ON WATERMAN	OUTSIDE HEAD AREA	99.69% of North American population can be excluded but not ASA ELLERUP or VICTORIA HEUERMANN	2.374 x 1048 Times More Likely to Come From An Individual with the Identical Genetic Profile as ASA ELLERUP
MEGAN WATERMAN	[SECOND OF] TWO FEMALE HAIRS ON WATERMAN	TAPE IN THE AREA OF THE HEAD	N/A	2.778 x 10480 Times More Likely to Come From An Individual with the Identical Genetic Profile as ASA ELLERUP
MEGAN WATERMAN	MALE HAIR ON WATERMAN	BOTTOM PORTION OF BURLAP	99.96% of North American population can be excluded, but not REX HEUERMANN	1.408 x 10169 Times More Likely to Come From An Individual with the Identical Genetic Profile as REX HEUERMANN
AMBER COSTELLO	FEMALE HAIR ON COSTELLO	TAPE IN THE AREA OF THE HEAD	99.98% of North American population can be excluded but not ASA ELLERUP or VICTORIA HEUERMANN	4.654 x 1063 Times More Likely to Come From An Individual with the Identical Genetic Profile as VICTORIA HEUERMANN

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April 15, 2025

Lab founder defends new DNA technology ahead of Gilgo Beach murders trial

The founder of a lab that used new DNA technology to link hairs found on Gilgo Beach victims to accused serial killer Rex Heuermann testified in court Tuesday.

www.cbsnews.com

If nuclear DNA evidence is allowed in the trial of accused Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex Heuermann, it would be a first for New York.
A lab used the new technology to link hairs on several victims to Heuermann. That lab's founder, University of California scientist Dr. Richard Green, testified in court Tuesday.

Apr 15, 2025
'If nuclear DNA evidence is allowed in the trial of accused Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex Heuermann, it would be a first for New York. A lab used the new technology to link hairs on several victims to Heuermann.'

Apr 10, 2025 #CourtTV
Attorney Michael Brown, representing accused serial killer Rex Heuermann, discusses their ongoing battle over DNA evidence in the case.

Gilgo Beach: 'Cutting edge' DNA evidence helped link suspect to 4th victim, DA says

Some of the new evidence released against alleged Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex Heuermann is "cutting edge" DNA evidence, the district attorney told ABC News.

abcnews.go.com

''Investigators found DNA belonging to Heuermann's now estranged wife, Asa Ellerup, in hair recovered from a belt used to restrain Brainard-Barnes, according to the indictment. Heuermann's family was out of state when Brainard-Barnes was killed, prosecutors said, and Ellerup is not suspected to be involved.
"The DNA itself was extracted from the hair back in 2010," Tierney said. "At that time, there was no method to obtain nuclear DNA profile from hair -- that has since changed. So we're on the cutting edge with regard to using this DNA analysis."

How many people would that be exactly? What is .04% of the population now?

 

[Maat99]

I wonder if she’s flattered at the compliment from him?

I think it’s more likely to be nightmare fuel

 

[dotr]

How many people would that be exactly? What is .04% of the population now?

Good question!

https://www.census.gov/popclock/

3. United States

342,034,432​

''The U.S. population clock is based on a series of short-term projections for the resident population of the United States. This includes people whose usual residence is in the 50 states and the District of Columbia. These projections do not include members of the Armed Forces overseas, their dependents, or other U.S. citizens residing outside the United States.

The projections are based on a monthly series of population estimates starting with the April 1, 2020 resident population from the 2020 Census.''

 

[CuriousCricket]

I think it’s more likely to be nightmare fuel

It's unfortunate but some women do fall "in love" with these men and do all sorts of things - destroy evidence, help them escape and go on the run.

Middle Tennessee lawyer facing charges after police say evidence was destroyed for client

A Middle Tennessee lawyer is facing charges after police say she destroyed evidence for a client.

www.tennessean.com

https://www.nytimes.com/1983/04/07/us/role-of-lawyer-in-her-client-s-escape-from-prison-mystifies-friends.html

 

[Ruminations]

I am interested to know if he had a selection of handguns.

I believe he was carrying a handgun and impersonating LE per a taxi driver.

MOO

 

[gremlin444]

How many people would that be exactly? What is .04% of the population now?

Depends on what they are defining as "North American."

Do they mean US+Canada?

If they mean the continent of North America, then it gets much much bigger because you're adding in Mexico, Central America, and the Caribbean.

 

[minazoe]

I believe he was carrying a handgun and impersonating LE per a taxi driver.

MOO

right, that's why it's important to know he does in fact own handguns. mOO

 

[Ruminations]

right, that's why it's important to know he does in fact own handguns. mOO

Whoosh! Right over my head, lol.

Yeah, Rex had a few pistols.

Yes, I believe the witnesses who have given affidavits.

MOO

 

[minazoe]

Whoosh! Right over my head, lol.

Yeah, Rex had a few pistols.

Yes, I believe the witnesses who have given affidavits.

MOO

I believe them too. totally. mOO

 

[snooptroop88]

right, that's why it's important to know he does in fact own handguns. mOO

And remember how adamant AE was that the guns be sold?

This is what concerns me a lot about this situation. This guy's at the very least a suspected serial sadistic murderer with many victims. (And for myself and it seems like most people on this thread, it's a foregone conclusion at this point he's a muderer, who thankfully doesn't like pizza crust.) So why would you be screaming bloody murder to get those guns gone?? If you want to see the evidence, well... let's explore all options, right?

And that together with Green Acres house, it's just... I don't know. And that witness that stepped forward about the swinging parties. I mean, AE's gushing over what a hero RH is (gag me), and it just... I don't like saying this, but does anyone remember the John Ray witness that said she actually met someone claiming to be AE, and that the person the witness thought was AE was gushing over RH, too? The person who the witness thought was AE was saying RH brought her to this country and she owed everything to him. THAT is creepy to me because it sounds like the type of thing someone who views RH as a "hero" would say. Also, the witness said the woman the witness thought was AE... this woman thought to be AE also said she was afraid of RH. Again, this worries me because that might dovetail a bit with someone who takes these incredibly lengthy vacations from her "hero." Now, I think it's possible that this woman that the witness thought was AE was in reality someone RH hired for the party, and not AE at all. We know he was engaged with a lot of sex workers, I'm sure he was a repeat customer with at least some. He might have viewed it as interesting to have a secret relationship with someone who bore a strong resemblance to AE. But it just... yeah, it's definitely something of note, jmho. Because I also believe the John Ray witnesses.

If I watch AE on these documentaries, it's just going to make me wonder even more. (I still haven't watched them.)

 

[Betty P]

And remember how adamant AE was that the guns be sold?

This is what concerns me a lot about this situation. This guy's at the very least a suspected serial sadistic murderer with many victims. (And for myself and it seems like most people on this thread, it's a foregone conclusion at this point he's a muderer, who thankfully doesn't like pizza crust.) So why would you be screaming bloody murder to get those guns gone?? If you want to see the evidence, well... let's explore all options, right?

And that together with Green Acres house, it's just... I don't know. And that witness that stepped forward about the swinging parties. I mean, AE's gushing over what a hero RH is (gag me), and it just... I don't like saying this, but does anyone remember the John Ray witness that said she actually met someone claiming to be AE, and that the person the witness thought was AE was gushing over RH, too? The person who the witness thought was AE was saying RH brought her to this country and she owed everything to him. THAT is creepy to me because it sounds like the type of thing someone who views RH as a "hero" would say. Also, the witness said the woman the witness thought was AE... this woman thought to be AE also said she was afraid of RH. Again, this worries me because that might dovetail a bit with someone who takes these incredibly lengthy vacations from her "hero." Now, I think it's possible that this woman that the witness thought was AE was in reality someone RH hired for the party, and not AE at all. We know he was engaged with a lot of sex workers, I'm sure he was a repeat customer with at least some. He might have viewed it as interesting to have a secret relationship with someone who bore a strong resemblance to AE. But it just... yeah, it's definitely something of note, jmho. Because I also believe the John Ray witnesses.

If I watch AE on these documentaries, it's just going to make me wonder even more. (I still haven't watched them.)

Recall, though, that the witness said AE bizarrely accused her of trying to steal a clothing iron. It sounds like something an odd wife/ housewife would say. Very odd if it were a total stranger.

Edit for grammar

 

[minazoe]

the prob with selling the guns is that we don't know if those guns could be connected to other crimes, rapes, murders, etc. We just don't know. Seems to me like he would love to shoot someone out somewhere where he wouldn't get busted. Even tho the guns may legally be their property and nothing can be done to preserve them for future testing...it bothers me somewhat because we all know there are other victims out there. mOO

 

[Ruminations]

And remember how adamant AE was that the guns be sold?

This is what concerns me a lot about this situation. This guy's at the very least a suspected serial sadistic murderer with many victims. (And for myself and it seems like most people on this thread, it's a foregone conclusion at this point he's a muderer, who thankfully doesn't like pizza crust.) So why would you be screaming bloody murder to get those guns gone?? If you want to see the evidence, well... let's explore all options, right?

And that together with Green Acres house, it's just... I don't know. And that witness that stepped forward about the swinging parties. I mean, AE's gushing over what a hero RH is (gag me), and it just... I don't like saying this, but does anyone remember the John Ray witness that said she actually met someone claiming to be AE, and that the person the witness thought was AE was gushing over RH, too? The person who the witness thought was AE was saying RH brought her to this country and she owed everything to him. THAT is creepy to me because it sounds like the type of thing someone who views RH as a "hero" would say. Also, the witness said the woman the witness thought was AE... this woman thought to be AE also said she was afraid of RH. Again, this worries me because that might dovetail a bit with someone who takes these incredibly lengthy vacations from her "hero." Now, I think it's possible that this woman that the witness thought was AE was in reality someone RH hired for the party, and not AE at all. We know he was engaged with a lot of sex workers, I'm sure he was a repeat customer with at least some. He might have viewed it as interesting to have a secret relationship with someone who bore a strong resemblance to AE. But it just... yeah, it's definitely something of note, jmho. Because I also believe the John Ray witnesses.

If I watch AE on these documentaries, it's just going to make me wonder even more. (I still haven't watched them.)

Interesting point.

That "hero" perception is indeed another reason the cop's ex-gf who went to a swinging party is credible.

It is a depiction of Asa consistent with how she came off in the .50 production.

MOO

Edit to add: AFAIK, Asa never said anything publicly along those lines before the witnesses affidavit.

 

[minazoe]

interesting how things fall in line with known facts now.

 

[gremlin444]

And that together with Green Acres house, it's just... I don't know. And that witness that stepped forward about the swinging parties. I mean, AE's gushing over what a hero RH is (gag me), and it just... I don't like saying this, but does anyone remember the John Ray witness that said she actually met someone claiming to be AE, and that the person the witness thought was AE was gushing over RH, too? The person who the witness thought was AE was saying RH brought her to this country and she owed everything to him. THAT is creepy to me because it sounds like the type of thing someone who views RH as a "hero" would say. Also, the witness said the woman the witness thought was AE... this woman thought to be AE also said she was afraid of RH. Again, this worries me because that might dovetail a bit with someone who takes these incredibly lengthy vacations from her "hero." Now, I think it's possible that this woman that the witness thought was AE was in reality someone RH hired for the party, and not AE at all. We know he was engaged with a lot of sex workers, I'm sure he was a repeat customer with at least some. He might have viewed it as interesting to have a secret relationship with someone who bore a strong resemblance to AE. But it just... yeah, it's definitely something of note, jmho. Because I also believe the John Ray witnesses.

At same time, the bolded statement doesn't match AE's life experience at all. And is nothing that she would ever be able to say in regards to RH.

 

[Ruminations]

At same time, the bolded statement doesn't match AE's life experience at all. And is nothing that she would ever be able to say in regards to RH.

Well. Yes she grew up in the USA, on Long Island like Rex. But she kind of does give him credit for making it possible to navigate her divorce and survive in the USA in the Peacock production. I doubt she needed him as much as she reports. But IMO, what she said on camera is not inconsistent from the witnesses' account of Rex being her hero at all.

He reportedly paid for her divorce, moved her into her into his childhood home when, she implied, she had no other real options, and promptly impregnated her. This had all happened by the time the swinging party witness met her.

I keep thinking about a Bob Dylan lyric. He helped her out of a jam, but used a little much force.

MOO

 

[snooptroop88]

Recall, though, that the witness said AE bizarrely accused her of trying to steal a clothing iron. It sounds like something an odd wife/ housewife would say. Very odd if it were a total stranger.

Edit for grammar

RIGHT, I forgot all about this, the iron. Ok, I looked this up, I think (?) that's a different witness, but that actually makes it even weirder, jmo. Because okay, with this far-fetched hypothetical idea of an AE lookalike being hired by RH, that would mean this lookalike showed up on multiple occasions. I mean, I find it difficult enough to try and buy that AE lookalike theory (and it's my theory, lol). This makes it even harder to even try to run with that theory, jmo. I suppose it's still possible, but would RH really go around divulging any kind of true information to someone about his wife? I mean, with the swinger witness, an AE lookalike would at least know another country was involved where RH's spouse was concerned.

RH is definitely enough of a freak to hire an AE lookalike, jmo. But I don't know he'd be inclined to divulge any kind of true info in such a scenario. The only thing that still makes me wonder is this:

At same time, the bolded statement doesn't match AE's life experience at all. And is nothing that she would ever be able to say in regards to RH.

I don't know that it doesn't match at all, it matches somewhat, but jmo. But this is why I really do still wonder about an AE lookalike. Because totally agreed that it doesn't line up completely,

Also, here's something interesting, too. When I was researching @Betty P note about the iron, I caught John Ray noting something else about the swinger witness. That witness and her cop bf (he was a cop, I believe, right?) came to the house in one vehicle but left in a different vehicle. And JR thinks there's an implication that the cop had some association with RH as a result of that (which does seem logical).

THAT is really weird. Has anyone ever heard this thing about them leaving in a different vehicle from the one they came in?