Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 7 murders, July 2023 #16

[Betty P]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1935569924602142899

"The Gilgo Beach serial killer suspect uttered the words 'good job'
to one of his defense attorneys during the critical murder trial hearing taking place this week.

Defense attorney Danielle Coysh
was given the high praise by accused murderer Rex Heuermann
after she wrapped up her questioning with their expert defense witness Nathaniel Adams,
a systems engineer at Ohio-based Forensic Bioinformatic Services, Inc,
Newsday reported.

Coysh has been an integral part of Heuermann's legal team
and has been working alongside lead attorney Michael Brown since Heuermann's arrest in July 2023."

I wonder if she’s flattered at the compliment from him?

 

[minazoe]

I wonder if she’s flattered at the compliment from him?

barf.

 

[Dotta]

It is her job folks.
Hazard of the job.

JMO

 

[333_OnlyHalfEvil]

by Jared Hatcliffe | Mar 31, 2025

The Gilgo Beach Murders – The Defense’s Attempt to Preclude DNA Evidence | The Advocate's Advantage

See the chart below for a summary of the DNA results.​

VICTIM	DESIGNATION IN BAIL LETTER	APPROX. LOCATION OF HAIR RECOVERY	MITOCHONDRIAL DNA RESULTS	NUCLEAR (SNP) DNA RESULTS
SANDRA COSTILLA	MALE HAIR ON COSTILLA	TAPE-LIFT OF STRIPED SHIRT ABOVE VICTIM’S HEAD	99.96% of North American population can be excluded, but not REX HEUERMANN	4.347 x 10332 Times More Likely to Come From An Individual with the Identical Genetic Profile as REX HEUERMANN
SANDRA COSTILLA	FEMALE HAIR ON COSTILLA	VICTIM’S RIGHT ARM	99.98% of North American population can be excluded but not WITNESS 3	4.578 x 101040 Times More Likely to Come From An Individual with the Identical Genetic Profile as WITNESS 3
VALERIE MACK	FEMALE HAIR ON MACK	INSIDE GARBAGE BAGS CONTAINING VICTIM, NEAR VICTIM’S LEFT WRIST	99.65% of the North American population can be excluded but not ASA ELLERUP or VICTORIA HEUERMANN	1.31 x 10356 Times More Likely to Come From An Individual with the Identical Genetic Profile as VICTORIA HEUERMANN6
JESSICA TAYLOR	MALE HAIR UNDERNEATH TAYLOR	ON SURGICAL DRAPE UNDERNEATH VICTIM	99.96% of North American population can be excluded, but not REX HEUERMANN	1.837 x 10603 Times More Likely to Come From An Individual with the Identical Genetic Profile as REX HEUERMANN
MAUREEN BRAINARD BARNES	FEMALE HAIR ON BARNES	BUCKLE OF BELT RESTRAINING LOWER BODY	N/A	7.9 Trillion Times More Likely to Come From An Individual with the Identical Genetic Profile as ASA ELLERUP
MEGAN WATERMAN	[FIRST OF] TWO FEMALE HAIRS ON WATERMAN	OUTSIDE HEAD AREA	99.69% of North American population can be excluded but not ASA ELLERUP or VICTORIA HEUERMANN	2.374 x 1048 Times More Likely to Come From An Individual with the Identical Genetic Profile as ASA ELLERUP
MEGAN WATERMAN	[SECOND OF] TWO FEMALE HAIRS ON WATERMAN	TAPE IN THE AREA OF THE HEAD	N/A	2.778 x 10480 Times More Likely to Come From An Individual with the Identical Genetic Profile as ASA ELLERUP
MEGAN WATERMAN	MALE HAIR ON WATERMAN	BOTTOM PORTION OF BURLAP	99.96% of North American population can be excluded, but not REX HEUERMANN	1.408 x 10169 Times More Likely to Come From An Individual with the Identical Genetic Profile as REX HEUERMANN
AMBER COSTELLO	FEMALE HAIR ON COSTELLO	TAPE IN THE AREA OF THE HEAD	99.98% of North American population can be excluded but not ASA ELLERUP or VICTORIA HEUERMANN	4.654 x 1063 Times More Likely to Come From An Individual with the Identical Genetic Profile as VICTORIA HEUERMANN

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April 15, 2025

Lab founder defends new DNA technology ahead of Gilgo Beach murders trial

The founder of a lab that used new DNA technology to link hairs found on Gilgo Beach victims to accused serial killer Rex Heuermann testified in court Tuesday.

www.cbsnews.com

If nuclear DNA evidence is allowed in the trial of accused Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex Heuermann, it would be a first for New York.
A lab used the new technology to link hairs on several victims to Heuermann. That lab's founder, University of California scientist Dr. Richard Green, testified in court Tuesday.

Apr 15, 2025
'If nuclear DNA evidence is allowed in the trial of accused Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex Heuermann, it would be a first for New York. A lab used the new technology to link hairs on several victims to Heuermann.'

Apr 10, 2025 #CourtTV
Attorney Michael Brown, representing accused serial killer Rex Heuermann, discusses their ongoing battle over DNA evidence in the case.

Gilgo Beach: 'Cutting edge' DNA evidence helped link suspect to 4th victim, DA says

Some of the new evidence released against alleged Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex Heuermann is "cutting edge" DNA evidence, the district attorney told ABC News.

abcnews.go.com

''Investigators found DNA belonging to Heuermann's now estranged wife, Asa Ellerup, in hair recovered from a belt used to restrain Brainard-Barnes, according to the indictment. Heuermann's family was out of state when Brainard-Barnes was killed, prosecutors said, and Ellerup is not suspected to be involved.
"The DNA itself was extracted from the hair back in 2010," Tierney said. "At that time, there was no method to obtain nuclear DNA profile from hair -- that has since changed. So we're on the cutting edge with regard to using this DNA analysis."

How many people would that be exactly? What is .04% of the population now?

 

[Maat99]

I wonder if she’s flattered at the compliment from him?

I think it’s more likely to be nightmare fuel

 

[dotr]

How many people would that be exactly? What is .04% of the population now?

Good question!

https://www.census.gov/popclock/

3. United States

342,034,432​

''The U.S. population clock is based on a series of short-term projections for the resident population of the United States. This includes people whose usual residence is in the 50 states and the District of Columbia. These projections do not include members of the Armed Forces overseas, their dependents, or other U.S. citizens residing outside the United States.

The projections are based on a monthly series of population estimates starting with the April 1, 2020 resident population from the 2020 Census.''

 

[CuriousCricket]

I think it’s more likely to be nightmare fuel

It's unfortunate but some women do fall "in love" with these men and do all sorts of things - destroy evidence, help them escape and go on the run.

Middle Tennessee lawyer facing charges after police say evidence was destroyed for client

A Middle Tennessee lawyer is facing charges after police say she destroyed evidence for a client.

www.tennessean.com

https://www.nytimes.com/1983/04/07/us/role-of-lawyer-in-her-client-s-escape-from-prison-mystifies-friends.html

 

[Ruminations]

I am interested to know if he had a selection of handguns.

I believe he was carrying a handgun and impersonating LE per a taxi driver.

MOO

 

[gremlin444]

How many people would that be exactly? What is .04% of the population now?

Depends on what they are defining as "North American."

Do they mean US+Canada?

If they mean the continent of North America, then it gets much much bigger because you're adding in Mexico, Central America, and the Caribbean.

 

[minazoe]

I believe he was carrying a handgun and impersonating LE per a taxi driver.

MOO

right, that's why it's important to know he does in fact own handguns. mOO

 

[Ruminations]

right, that's why it's important to know he does in fact own handguns. mOO

Whoosh! Right over my head, lol.

Yeah, Rex had a few pistols.

Yes, I believe the witnesses who have given affidavits.

MOO

 

[minazoe]

Whoosh! Right over my head, lol.

Yeah, Rex had a few pistols.

Yes, I believe the witnesses who have given affidavits.

MOO

I believe them too. totally. mOO

 

[snooptroop88]

right, that's why it's important to know he does in fact own handguns. mOO

And remember how adamant AE was that the guns be sold?

This is what concerns me a lot about this situation. This guy's at the very least a suspected serial sadistic murderer with many victims. (And for myself and it seems like most people on this thread, it's a foregone conclusion at this point he's a muderer, who thankfully doesn't like pizza crust.) So why would you be screaming bloody murder to get those guns gone?? If you want to see the evidence, well... let's explore all options, right?

And that together with Green Acres house, it's just... I don't know. And that witness that stepped forward about the swinging parties. I mean, AE's gushing over what a hero RH is (gag me), and it just... I don't like saying this, but does anyone remember the John Ray witness that said she actually met someone claiming to be AE, and that the person the witness thought was AE was gushing over RH, too? The person who the witness thought was AE was saying RH brought her to this country and she owed everything to him. THAT is creepy to me because it sounds like the type of thing someone who views RH as a "hero" would say. Also, the witness said the woman the witness thought was AE... this woman thought to be AE also said she was afraid of RH. Again, this worries me because that might dovetail a bit with someone who takes these incredibly lengthy vacations from her "hero." Now, I think it's possible that this woman that the witness thought was AE was in reality someone RH hired for the party, and not AE at all. We know he was engaged with a lot of sex workers, I'm sure he was a repeat customer with at least some. He might have viewed it as interesting to have a secret relationship with someone who bore a strong resemblance to AE. But it just... yeah, it's definitely something of note, jmho. Because I also believe the John Ray witnesses.

If I watch AE on these documentaries, it's just going to make me wonder even more. (I still haven't watched them.)

 

[Betty P]

And remember how adamant AE was that the guns be sold?

This is what concerns me a lot about this situation. This guy's at the very least a suspected serial sadistic murderer with many victims. (And for myself and it seems like most people on this thread, it's a foregone conclusion at this point he's a muderer, who thankfully doesn't like pizza crust.) So why would you be screaming bloody murder to get those guns gone?? If you want to see the evidence, well... let's explore all options, right?

And that together with Green Acres house, it's just... I don't know. And that witness that stepped forward about the swinging parties. I mean, AE's gushing over what a hero RH is (gag me), and it just... I don't like saying this, but does anyone remember the John Ray witness that said she actually met someone claiming to be AE, and that the person the witness thought was AE was gushing over RH, too? The person who the witness thought was AE was saying RH brought her to this country and she owed everything to him. THAT is creepy to me because it sounds like the type of thing someone who views RH as a "hero" would say. Also, the witness said the woman the witness thought was AE... this woman thought to be AE also said she was afraid of RH. Again, this worries me because that might dovetail a bit with someone who takes these incredibly lengthy vacations from her "hero." Now, I think it's possible that this woman that the witness thought was AE was in reality someone RH hired for the party, and not AE at all. We know he was engaged with a lot of sex workers, I'm sure he was a repeat customer with at least some. He might have viewed it as interesting to have a secret relationship with someone who bore a strong resemblance to AE. But it just... yeah, it's definitely something of note, jmho. Because I also believe the John Ray witnesses.

If I watch AE on these documentaries, it's just going to make me wonder even more. (I still haven't watched them.)

Recall, though, that the witness said AE bizarrely accused her of trying to steal a clothing iron. It sounds like something an odd wife/ housewife would say. Very odd if it were a total stranger.

Edit for grammar

 

[minazoe]

the prob with selling the guns is that we don't know if those guns could be connected to other crimes, rapes, murders, etc. We just don't know. Seems to me like he would love to shoot someone out somewhere where he wouldn't get busted. Even tho the guns may legally be their property and nothing can be done to preserve them for future testing...it bothers me somewhat because we all know there are other victims out there. mOO

 

[Ruminations]

And remember how adamant AE was that the guns be sold?

This is what concerns me a lot about this situation. This guy's at the very least a suspected serial sadistic murderer with many victims. (And for myself and it seems like most people on this thread, it's a foregone conclusion at this point he's a muderer, who thankfully doesn't like pizza crust.) So why would you be screaming bloody murder to get those guns gone?? If you want to see the evidence, well... let's explore all options, right?

And that together with Green Acres house, it's just... I don't know. And that witness that stepped forward about the swinging parties. I mean, AE's gushing over what a hero RH is (gag me), and it just... I don't like saying this, but does anyone remember the John Ray witness that said she actually met someone claiming to be AE, and that the person the witness thought was AE was gushing over RH, too? The person who the witness thought was AE was saying RH brought her to this country and she owed everything to him. THAT is creepy to me because it sounds like the type of thing someone who views RH as a "hero" would say. Also, the witness said the woman the witness thought was AE... this woman thought to be AE also said she was afraid of RH. Again, this worries me because that might dovetail a bit with someone who takes these incredibly lengthy vacations from her "hero." Now, I think it's possible that this woman that the witness thought was AE was in reality someone RH hired for the party, and not AE at all. We know he was engaged with a lot of sex workers, I'm sure he was a repeat customer with at least some. He might have viewed it as interesting to have a secret relationship with someone who bore a strong resemblance to AE. But it just... yeah, it's definitely something of note, jmho. Because I also believe the John Ray witnesses.

If I watch AE on these documentaries, it's just going to make me wonder even more. (I still haven't watched them.)

Interesting point.

That "hero" perception is indeed another reason the cop's ex-gf who went to a swinging party is credible.

It is a depiction of Asa consistent with how she came off in the .50 production.

MOO

Edit to add: AFAIK, Asa never said anything publicly along those lines before the witnesses affidavit.

 

[minazoe]

interesting how things fall in line with known facts now.