Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 7 murders, July 2023 #16

[iamshadow21]

Were all of his victims petite? I ask because I started to wonder if there was any weird thing that might have happened to a young girl when Heuermann was a teen or pre-teen? Not necessarily a death but an incident or accident where he wouldn't have been identified as the cause. As in was his first victim much shorter than he was and he carried that forward to all of his later victims?

I believe the range of heights of charged victims who we know the height of was from under five feet to something like 5'7".

On his kill sheet, I believe one of his notes was along the lines of 'small is good', but to be honest, a guy his size, he's vastly taller than all known, suspected, or possible victims except maybe Sugar Bear, and even Sugar Bear wasn't massive with it like RH is.

MOO

 

[Ruminations]

I believe the range of heights of charged victims who we know the height of was from under five feet to something like 5'7".

On his kill sheet, I believe one of his notes was along the lines of 'small is good', but to be honest, a guy his size, he's vastly taller than all known, suspected, or possible victims except maybe Sugar Bear, and even Sugar Bear wasn't massive with it like RH is.

MOO

IMO, small victims are just more convenient. Part of me thinks that attributing a psychological Rex-specific reason for choosing small victims is folly. Anybody with a murderous playtime plan would find small more convenient.

I feel the same way about choosing sex workers as victims. I don't see most serial killers who kill sex workers as having some reason to kill sex workers over serve staff at a local diner. It's just that sex workers are less likely to tell others where they are going/what they are doing/when they will be back. And that, combined with NHI culture, means murdering with lower chances of consequences. I don't think serial killers who target sex workers are mad at mom for promiscuity or some-such.

Yet... I think Rex may have specifically liked small.

The PA witness did say that Rex was interested in any very young/child friends she might have. And his searches showed an interest in child abuse materials. So it *might be that Rex did pick small not just for convenience, but to fantasize that the victims were children.

I wouldn't be surprised either way. We may never know why small is good for Rex.

MOO

 

[minazoe]

rex reminds is of those people who will just smile and engage you and roll his eyes and laugh when you accuse him of murder. you will have a hard time angering him...it has to be specific..it has to feel threatening or exposing...you have to work at getting the mask off...probably not letting him control the narrative...not playing along..exposing his stupidity or his mistakes..
not getting his jokes or dismissing. his claims as fantasy. he's going to deny all of it even in the face of physical evidence. He has a mantra...he's a normal guy who goes home on the train and eats his wife's dinner. He is not going to be kink shamed...he was a family man...and he is an important man at his office.

He doesn't know any prostitutes. it's all a mistake.

They are going to have to break him, maybe he's so narcissistic that he will play the courts for years on end...or pull a Kohberger and plead guilty and keep his secrets. I wonder if anything is happening with the other investigations that are happening... I want to see him charged in SC...I want him to have incentive to give up, confess and name all of his victims. mOO

 

[dotr]

Besides all the practical reasons (easier to control, hide, dispose), for RH to prefer petite female victims, one might be for a crude reason.
In short, smaller makes him look and feel, bigger from head to toe.
speculation, imo.

 

[snarast]

Besides all the practical reasons (easier to control, hide, dispose), for RH to prefer petite female victims, one might be for a crude reason.
In short, smaller makes him look and feel, bigger from head to toe.
speculation, imo.

Sure. But did he figure that out in 2002-04? At 40 yo?

The ”small is good” insight is probably related to suspension torture. I really can’t spell it out here, it’s too aggravating. We’re talking about crucifixion-style or worse. If he wants them on the wall (or in the air) as long as possible, it’s better with a low weight. It will last longer.

On the other hand maybe he was tired of making butchering messes in the bathroom and wanted the most portable victim for that reason. He avoided dismemberment that way.

 

[snarast]

IMO, small victims are just more convenient. Part of me thinks that attributing a psychological Rex-specific reason for choosing small victims is folly. Anybody with a murderous playtime plan would find small more convenient.

I feel the same way about choosing sex workers as victims. I don't see most serial killers who kill sex workers as having some reason to kill sex workers over serve staff at a local diner. It's just that sex workers are less likely to tell others where they are going/what they are doing/when they will be back. And that, combined with NHI culture, means murdering with lower chances of consequences. I don't think serial killers who target sex workers are mad at mom for promiscuity or some-such.

Yet... I think Rex may have specifically liked small.

The PA witness did say that Rex was interested in any very young/child friends she might have. And his searches showed an interest in child abuse materials. So it *might be that Rex did pick small not just for convenience, but to fantasize that the victims were children.

I wouldn't be surprised either way. We may never know why small is good for Rex.

MOO

Good points. The visual aspect involved in the sizing difference between RH and his victims makes me wonder. The visual effect would be powerful and impressive to those sickos who are so inclined.

Wouldn’t he want to share it, save his work for eternity somewhere? I bet he’s saved away data in some hollow tree trunk or some such.

 

[FromGermany1]

Besides all the practical reasons (easier to control, hide, dispose), for RH to prefer petite female victims, one might be for a crude reason.
In short, smaller makes him look and feel, bigger from head to toe.
speculation, imo.

Also petit victims have more similarity to teenage girls ..... MOO

 

[Inthedetails]

Sure. But did he figure that out in 2002-04? At 40 yo?

The ”small is good” insight is probably related to suspension torture. I really can’t spell it out here, it’s too aggravating. We’re talking about crucifixion-style or worse. If he wants them on the wall (or in the air) as long as possible, it’s better with a low weight. It will last longer.

On the other hand maybe he was tired of making butchering messes in the bathroom and wanted the most portable victim for that reason. He avoided dismemberment that way.

Yes, I think making it easy for himself and hard on them was appealing to the monster. He didn't want to fight and overcome a strong opponent, but to torture a helpless victim. It's like the effort was in his head - he prides his cleverness - not in his massive body.

Like how he called victim's sister to torture her - she was helpless in having to hear his words that he scripted in his head.

jmopinion

 

[dotr]

August 8 2025

Accused Serial Killer Rex Heuerman's Flirty Nickname - Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

He's accused of being a serial killer, but some of his co-workers gave him a nickname, Sexy Rexy. Reportely, Rex Heuerman was the 'perfect' co-worker and 'life of the party. Now more potential new witnesses have come forward with information connecting Heuermann to the Long Island Serial...

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[Keleah]

What is with the DOJ in DC trying to stick their nose into every high profile murder case these days. It's not a good look for them.

Access to files and/or because some of the crimes involved activity across state borders?

 

[Keleah]

Yes, I think making it easy for himself and hard on them was appealing to the monster. He didn't want to fight and overcome a strong opponent, but to torture a helpless victim. It's like the effort was in his head - he prides his cleverness - not in his massive body.

Like how he called victim's sister to torture her - she was helpless in having to hear his words that he scripted in his head.

jmopinion

This case reminds me of the ones in David McGowans Programmed to Kill. I think of this guy as a hatchet man and a possible snuff producer.

 

[Megnut]

August 8 2025

Accused Serial Killer Rex Heuerman's Flirty Nickname - Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

He's accused of being a serial killer, but some of his co-workers gave him a nickname, Sexy Rexy. Reportely, Rex Heuerman was the 'perfect' co-worker and 'life of the party. Now more potential new witnesses have come forward with information connecting Heuermann to the Long Island Serial...

omny.fm

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Flirty nickname -- "Sexy Rexy."

Make it stop.

 

[Maat99]

Flirty nickname -- "Sexy Rexy."

Make it stop.

Im going to assume it was sarcasm

 

[Keleah]

This case reminds me of the ones in David McGowans Programmed to Kill. I think of this guy as a hatchet man and a possible snuff producer.

Also similarities to the Picton case.

 

[Ruminations]

Yes, I think making it easy for himself and hard on them was appealing to the monster. He didn't want to fight and overcome a strong opponent, but to torture a helpless victim. It's like the effort was in his head - he prides his cleverness - not in his massive body.

Like how he called victim's sister to torture her - she was helpless in having to hear his words that he scripted in his head.

jmopinion

This is the absolutely most depraved thing we know or suspect Rex did that was not lethal.

Such cruelty with absolutely no benefits to the perpetrator. How can anyone get satisfaction out of that psychological assault on a child? Amanda should have gotten the proceeds from the Vietnam War era jeep, IMO.

MOO

 

[snarast]

is there a list of international travel dates for Rex? I know he was in Gothenburg Sweden in 1996. There is a murder there in 1994 that I think might fit his probably more youthful MO of ”seizing the moment”.

Has he been into naval architecture by any chance?

 

[lohrtabitha]

I truly wouldn't be surprised if he attended parties that RH did and knew who he was. Imo

And according to Alice Poe, she does place Rex and Burke at the same party.

Gilgo Beach lawyer calls for new probe into cop chief over 'snuff film link'

A DISGRACED cop who botched the crucial early stages of the Long Island Serial Killer probe should be investigated in connection with the case over potential snuff film links to Rex Heuermann, a la…

www.the-sun.com

 

[sds71]

A defense attorney for accused Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex Heuermann wants to block prosecutors from introducing DNA analysis they say links her client to the killing of 6 women, arguing that the technology is in its "infancy" and falls "far short of the general acceptance required by law," according to a motion submitted Friday.Suffolk County investigators employed Astrea Forensics, a California laboratory, which tested rootless hair samples found on the women’s bodies and used statistical analysis to compare those hairs with DNA samples from Heuermann and his family members.

DA Tierney said that the lab had connected the architect, his wife Asa Ellerup and their adult daughter to strands discovered on the remains of Maureen Brainard-Barnes, Megan Waterman, Amber Costello, Sandra Costilla, Jessica Taylor and Valerie Mack — six of the seven alleged victims.

Danielle Coyish, who is defending the Massapequa Park man charged with the killings, argued that Richard Green, the co-founder of the lab, has a financial stake in promoting the new forensic methodology — called IBDGem — used to establish the match, creating a conflict of interest.

"Admitting such evidence would improperly shift the burden from the State to the defense and risk prejudicing the jury with unreliable scientific claims," she wrote in her brief.

Prosecutors have until Aug. 22 to file their response. The judge has promised to rule on the issue by Sept. 3.

Gilgo serial killer case: Defense argues prosecution's DNA analysis linking victims to Heuermann isn't reliable trial evidence

The prosecution says the analysis connects Rex Heuermann, his ex-wife and adult daughter to hair discovered on the remains of six victims.

www.newsday.com

 

[snarast]

A defense attorney for accused Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex Heuermann wants to block prosecutors from introducing DNA analysis they say links her client to the killing of 6 women, arguing that the technology is in its "infancy" and falls "far short of the general acceptance required by law," according to a motion submitted Friday.Suffolk County investigators employed Astrea Forensics, a California laboratory, which tested rootless hair samples found on the women’s bodies and used statistical analysis to compare those hairs with DNA samples from Heuermann and his family members.

DA Tierney said that the lab had connected the architect, his wife Asa Ellerup and their adult daughter to strands discovered on the remains of Maureen Brainard-Barnes, Megan Waterman, Amber Costello, Sandra Costilla, Jessica Taylor and Valerie Mack — six of the seven alleged victims.

Danielle Coyish, who is defending the Massapequa Park man charged with the killings, argued that Richard Green, the co-founder of the lab, has a financial stake in promoting the new forensic methodology — called IBDGem — used to establish the match, creating a conflict of interest.

"Admitting such evidence would improperly shift the burden from the State to the defense and risk prejudicing the jury with unreliable scientific claims," she wrote in her brief.

Prosecutors have until Aug. 22 to file their response. The judge has promised to rule on the issue by Sept. 3.

Gilgo serial killer case: Defense argues prosecution's DNA analysis linking victims to Heuermann isn't reliable trial evidence

The prosecution says the analysis connects Rex Heuermann, his ex-wife and adult daughter to hair discovered on the remains of six victims.

www.newsday.com

Ahm - a financial stake. Good lord, that’s a reach. Yeah lets abolish all new technology because the inventor/owner might profit from it.

IMHOO

 

[Money-Theme]

I don't know who supplies my coworker information, but he's convinced the cops found Heuermann because he was editing the Long Island Serial Killer Wikipedia page. LMAO, I know it's not true but made me chuckle.