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we are supposed to view her a s a victim, but Asa is putting it out there for the world to dissect. so is talking trash about her ok?
or is she still a victim in her own way?

what say you?

mOO
It's complex imo. I view her as a victim to an extent, but it doesn't give a lot of the behaviors a pass. Wish she would've had time to process everything without the victims families having to witness it
 
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It's still all about AE.
At least she fessed up to not being repulsed and horrified by RH's "evil".
She's drawn to it like a moth to a flame.
imo
SBM. Not unlike the women who get involved with murderers sitting behind bars and think they could understand/change them.
 
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so now this case is a cottage industry, literally. I cannot believe she is sleeping in that basement. I could understand if she went down there and prayed, or lit a candle for these young women...but moving back in and sleeping there? I bet people literally cross the street now if they see her outside.
mOO
SBM. It appears that she does not have an emotional reaction to the horrors. She might be taking them as mere facts. Whether that's her personality, mental illness or consequence of being conditioned by Rex, is another question.
 
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...The more I look at her, the more I listen to her, the more she seems fake to me with that little smile and arrogant look of hers, they don't seem to have any different expressions from her husband, I don't know to what extent she has anything to do with this story because for now there is no evidence to prove it but I can't see her acting like a saint in their house...
She seems to me as smart as her husband and also deviant, and I want to feel free to think and say it because this story has remained silent for too long.
My badge says 4 but I've been following this for 10 long years, I have read more pages on this case than in my entire school career.
The more I see of her, the more I see an arrogant halfwit. And someone who lacks empathy and the ability to adapt their behaviour to the seriousness of the occasion.

I see someone who at the very least possibly knew her husband was frequenting sex workers and was ok with that if it meant she didn’t have to have sex with him.

At the worst, I think it’s possible she suspected it was him but convinced herself the police would have picked him up by now if it were true.

Even if she were totally oblivious, doing the documentary, continuing to live in the house, moving into the basement even, on top of continuing to visit him in jail and take calls from him are all IMO grossly inappropriate, offensive, creepy and suspicious.
 
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The more I see of her, the more I see an arrogant halfwit. And someone who lacks empathy and the ability to adapt their behaviour to the seriousness of the occasion.

I see someone who at the very least possibly knew her husband was frequenting sex workers and was ok with that if it meant she didn’t have to have sex with him.

At the worst, I think it’s possible she suspected it was him but convinced herself the police would have picked him up by now if it were true.

Even if she were totally oblivious, doing the documentary, continuing to live in the house, moving into the basement even, on top of continuing to visit him in jail and take calls from him are all IMO grossly inappropriate, offensive, creepy and suspicious.

well on the side of possible reason, maybe she is trying to help, maybe if she sees him, maybe if he relies on her for friendship and reassurance regarding his parents home and what he perceives as his legacy..he will continue confessing to her..maybe she can influence him.

that's a best case for this inexplicable relationship. mOO
 
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Clip is from the ABC show Impact streaming on Hulu/Disney+. I haven't watched it yet but it's on my list.


The Prime docuseries premiered today 4/22. I watched 2 out of 4 episodes. Nothing new in it.

And the conclusion of the Peacock docuseries tomorrow 4/23.
I'm not clicking on that or otherwise doing anything that can put a penny in the pocket of the offender even indirectly. but NGL, I look forward to the reviews.

MOO
 
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I screamed too ,it's horrifying. It's like she is taunting the victims families with that statement

Sleeping in the very room where their loved ones perished . And she says it with such pride .

I don't care what anyone says ,she is another Rose West 😡😡😡


If the whole FBI analyst thing is just for content, you will hear my scream, no matter what country you are in.

MOO
 
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Long Island serial killer Rex A. Heuermann maintained a four-day killing ritual, building trust with his victims before ending their lives in a basement "kill room" and dumping their remains near Gilgo Beach, a therapist reveals in a grisly new documentary episode streaming Thursday.

By the time Heuermann killed what he says was his eighth and final victim, the practice became so routine his stopwatch informed him it took just 37 seconds to dispose of the remains of Amber Lynn Costello along the north side of Ocean Parkway in September 2010, Sayville therapist Alison Winter discloses in the final installment of Peacock’s "Gilgo Beach Serial Killer: House of Secrets."

"He would hit the timer, dump the body, get back in the truck and hit the timer again," said Winter, who participated in the series after Heuermann and his family waived their rights to patient privacy. "Clearly, he enjoyed killing and it became a sickness for him. It became an outlet. It became an obsession."

Did he have his midlife crisis in 2010 or why did he stop - allegedly - the killings? I don't believe it. MOO
 
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Did he have his midlife crisis in 2010 or why did he stop - allegedly - the killings? I don't believe it. MOO

Heuermann told Winter the killings stopped in September 2010 because he was no longer receiving the same gratification. The therapist said she pushed back on that theory, noting just three months later the search for missing Shannan Gilbert led police to find the first four sets of remains along Ocean Parkway.


"I think he was very concerned about getting caught, and I think he knew he would get caught," Winter told the filmmakers.

 
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SBM. It appears that she does not have an emotional reaction to the horrors. She might be taking them as mere facts. Whether that's her personality, mental illness or consequence of being conditioned by Rex, is another question.
bbm
It is, what it is. AE said so at the beginning, didn't she.
 
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well on the side of possible reason, maybe she is trying to help, maybe if she sees him, maybe if he relies on her for friendship and reassurance regarding his parents home and what he perceives as his legacy..he will continue confessing to her..maybe she can influence him.

that's a best case for this inexplicable relationship. mOO
The wife (ex on paper), who sleeps in his beloved torture room, newly decorated, in the same bed (I assume), where he once laid in (perhaps with a poor girl beside him, when AE enjoyed Iceland), this wife is still his closest confidante, IMO, so he will tell her all. She understands everything and won't collapse; he can be sure.
MOO
 
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Did he have his midlife crisis in 2010 or why did he stop - allegedly - the killings? I don't believe it. MOO
I think it is possible he had a moment where he felt he had to lay low for a while. If that's the case, I would think there would be a gradual ramping up from legal porn, to depictions of crime, and dating behavior working from nothing to legal sugar daddy type things to "violation" level illegal "dates" and beyond to torturing & raping sex workers.

I think he could have returned to murdering, I also think it is possible that his age could be a factor if he stopped murdering. He was in his mid- late 40's when the GB4 were discovered, and he's not the fittest looking gentleman. By the time he ramped back up to murder, he could have been too old for all that.

I would believe it either way, he stopped killing or continued.

MOO
 
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The confessed mass murderer, 62, would even use a stopwatch to time how quickly he would dispose of his victims’ remains at Gilgo Beach, playing a twisted game with himself.

The final episode of the Peacock documentary, The Gilgo Beach Killer: House of Secrets, follows Heuermann’s ex-wife Asa Ellerup and his two children, Victoria and Christopher, in the weeks and months leading to his plea change on April 8.

Heuermann, who initially maintained his innocence, admitted in open court to murdering eight women between 1993 and 2010.

The documentary revealed that Heuermann and the Suffolk County District Attorney’s Office were negotiating a plea agreement since as early as spring 2025.
So would this information about RH and his stopwatch have been kept under wraps from the public but AE/Macedonio knew about it and they were the ones who decided to make it public and continue torturing the victim's loved ones?
imo
 
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we are supposed to view her a s a victim, but Asa is putting it out there for the world to dissect. so is talking trash about her ok?
or is she still a victim in her own way?

what say you?

mOO
She'll always be a victim to herself and probably to any and all therapists she ever speaks with.

That said she lost ALL status as a victim to me when she signed the Peacock deal which included her parading out her mentally challenged adult son who was paid $400,000 for his participation.
imo
 
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She'll always be a victim to herself and probably any and all therapists she ever speaks with.

That said she lost ALL status as a victim to me when she signed the Peacock deal which included her parading out her mentally challenged adult son who was paid $400,000 for his participation.
imo
But we know: she never felt as "Mr. Heuermann's" victim at all. Many had wronged her and her children, but not her ex-husband. MOO
 
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I think it is possible he had a moment where he felt he had to lay low for a while. If that's the case, I would think there would be a gradual ramping up from legal porn, to depictions of crime, and dating behavior working from nothing to legal sugar daddy type things to "violation" level illegal "dates" and beyond to torturing & raping sex workers.

I think he could have returned to murdering, I also think it is possible that his age could be a factor if he stopped murdering. He was in his mid- late 40's when the GB4 were discovered, and he's not the fittest looking gentleman. By the time he ramped back up to murder, he could have been too old for all that.

I would believe it either way, he stopped killing or continued.

MOO
Was anything ever reported that AE and her children stopped traveling to Iceland?

Josh Zeman/Joe The Sarge were talking about reasons RH may have stopped killing and one possibility was the advancement in forensics since he began murdering for pleasure, DNA was the crucial advancement that took place.

He did use the internet to find answers about how LE investigates catching murderers like him and we know he kept up on all the news and discoveries pertaining to the LISK.
imo
 
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But we know: she never felt as "Mr. Heuermann's" victim at all. Many had wronged her and her children, but not her ex-husband. MOO
She was a victim of LE because they insisted on upending her house while collecting evidence against her serial killer husband. How dare they!
 
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YES THE ARE SUPER CREEPY she had to have known. I mean dismembering a body is pretty messy… and he dismembered not 1 but 3 In the House!?!

Still deep inside I feel like she was part of the disposal of these women . I really believe she helped him dispose of them and it gave her some sick and twisted thrill out of it too. That is just me and how I felt the whole way through .. and now with this killing the women in the house thing …. I don’t know…
MOO
We know that RH didn't redesign the bathroom each time he dismembered one of his victims so there's that plus did I read from a confirmed source that the victims were at his house for days before being murdered?
If so there very well could have been tell-tale signs of women having been in her home that she found when returning from Iceland?
imo
 

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