Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, pleads Guilty to 7 murders and confesses to 1 other

[Mrs.A]

I took from it that much of what AE said was scripted beforehand and Macedonio knew the script.
imo

Yeah I think he's instrumental in the presentation of this family. They should not be so trusting of him IMHO.

 

[Forest_Wood]

Reading through these last four to five pages I have some different thoughts so I thought I would share them.

The Peacock episode 4 was absolutely distasteful. I agree fully about that. Everyone on here follows this case, so we are the reason for that companies make this tragedy into a money making instrument. It's a societal problem and we are part of the society. Let's do some reflection. There's huge demand for all things true crime, even just in newspaper ad revenue.

Regarding Asa, she has been in a cult of Rex's personality for decades. She and Victoria exhibit lots of trauma related behaviors. I was raised in a cult for about 15 years. It took me over 15 years out to deconstruct from it. I'm still working on it! I have hope for her. She is doing crazy stuff right now because she is testing new boundaries in a new reality. Putting it on a TV show and having everyone gawk in condemnation is unfair. People in cults don't make their own choices. They are mind controlled. It's obvious to me that she was mind controlled because as soon as Macedonio stepped in to be her new leader, she held to him. I do not know when she's going to wake up, but I do think she will. She already lives a nightmare and waking up is going to be absolutely awful.

Injustice is not pie. Asa can be subject to it even if hers is not as bad as what the families of the victims and the murdered folks got.

You're making a statement that AE has been in a cult for decades. Is this your opinion? Please provide a source for this statement you are making. I really don't know how someone could tell that from just looking at someone else. From what I've seen of her in media, she has a mind of her own and I think she was boss. IMO.

 

[Mrs.A]

You're making a statement that AE has been in a cult for decades. Is this your opinion? Please provide a source for this statement you are making. I really don't know how someone could tell that from just looking at someone else. From what I've seen of her in media, she has a mind of her own and I think she was boss. IMO.

Her narcissistic husband is the cult leader.

 

[Ruminations]

You're making a statement that AE has been in a cult for decades. Is this your opinion? Please provide a source for this statement you are making. I really don't know how someone could tell that from just looking at someone else. From what I've seen of her in media, she has a mind of her own and I think she was boss. IMO.

She wasn't the boss of Rex, IMO.

I'm not going to ask you for a source because it's as unsoursable an assertion as that she was in a cult. Both are opinions.

But, both opinions can be true at the same time. Asa was likely under coercive control of Rex- there is plenty of evidence to support that opinion. And, Asa is making her own decisions. There is also evidence of that.

Being under the coercive control of another explains behavior, and makes it easier to forgive if the person who did those behaviors regret them and make amends.

I'm not where Mrs. A is in terms of having quite as much grace for Asa in particular. While I think her lawyer took over as her abuser, I still hold her responsible for her personal contempt (IMO) for the victims, and for her complete inability to put her grievances aside when there are murdered mothers. If there is a crash on the highway where a road rager killed another person and caused me to be stuck in traffic for an hour- yeah- I'm a "victim." But when the subject is the killed victim, I don't complain about it. I do judge Asa because except in a few throwaway lines, she seems all about herself.

Has she been used by Rex and Macedonio? IMO, yes. But as far as I know, Asa would not agree with that assessment. This makes her impossible to forgive IMO.

MOO

 

[Ruminations]

Reading through these last four to five pages I have some different thoughts so I thought I would share them.

The Peacock episode 4 was absolutely distasteful. I agree fully about that. Everyone on here follows this case, so we are the reason for that companies make this tragedy into a money making instrument. It's a societal problem and we are part of the society. Let's do some reflection. There's huge demand for all things true crime, even just in newspaper ad revenue.

Regarding Asa, she has been in a cult of Rex's personality for decades. She and Victoria exhibit lots of trauma related behaviors. I was raised in a cult for about 15 years. It took me over 15 years out to deconstruct from it. I'm still working on it! I have hope for her. She is doing crazy stuff right now because she is testing new boundaries in a new reality. Putting it on a TV show and having everyone gawk in condemnation is unfair. People in cults don't make their own choices. They are mind controlled. It's obvious to me that she was mind controlled because as soon as Macedonio stepped in to be her new leader, she held to him. I do not know when she's going to wake up, but I do think she will. She already lives a nightmare and waking up is going to be absolutely awful.

Injustice is not pie. Asa can be subject to it even if hers is not as bad as what the families of the victims and the murdered folks got.

I'm not there yet- but I thank you for this post.

MOO

 

[Mrs.A]

She wasn't the boss of Rex, IMO.

I'm not going to ask you for a source because it's as unsoursable an assertion as that she was in a cult. Both are opinions.

But, both opinions can be true at the same time. Asa was likely under coercive control of Rex- there is plenty of evidence to support that opinion. And, Asa is making her own decisions. There is also evidence of that.

Being under the coercive control of another explains behavior, and makes it easier to forgive if the person who did those behaviors regret them and make amends.

I'm not where Mrs. A is in terms of having quite as much grace for Asa in particular. While I think her lawyer took over as her abuser, I still hold her responsible for her personal contempt (IMO) for the victims, and for her complete inability to put her grievances aside when there are murdered mothers. If there is a crash on the highway where a road rager killed another person and caused me to be stuck in traffic for an hour- yeah- I'm a "victim." But when the subject is the killed victim, I don't complain about it. I do judge Asa because except in a few throwaway lines, she seems all about herself.

Has she been used by Rex and Macedonio? IMO, yes. But as far as I know, Asa would not agree with that assessment. This makes her impossible to forgive IMO.

MOO

I'm absolutely not saying she's in charge. She is a devotee of his. Looks like Victoria and Christopher are trying to break away, but ASAP still reveres him.

I also don't think Asa is at a place for forgiveness but I am willing to look at her with compassion.

 

[Izzylizzy]

I'm absolutely not saying she's in charge. She is a devotee of his. Looks like Victoria and Christopher are trying to break away, but ASAP still reveres him.

I also don't think Asa is at a place for forgiveness but I am willing to look at her with compassion.

Asa wasn't always a "devotee"of Rex according to Macedonio.
He said the marriage had been breaking down for a long time and divorce was discussed.

I'm on Team Ruse, Asa immediately denied her husband's involvement in these horrific crimes against women and became his number 1 defender claiming what a wonderful husband and family man he is otherwise if she fessed up to what really went on in the marriage and home life with him that led to her marriage breakdown and wanting a divorce it would indicate there were red flags and a trail of evidence crumbs for decades and she purposely ignored them.
I don't think she was really surprised when he was arrested, more shocked that LE finally caught up with him.
imo

 

[Forest_Wood]

I'm not going to ask you for a source because it's as unsoursable an assertion as that she was in a cult. Both are opinions.

We all should know here that making statements as fact requires a source. Stating that someone was part of a cult cannot be ascertained from watching a documentary; the same with diagnosing someone as having a trauma response by watching a documentary. I don't know what you'd like me to source about my opinion, since I clearly wrote IMO. I see Asa as a strong and manipulative individual who has managed to get her own way in life. That is my opinion and not fact.
MOO

 

[FromGermany1]

Did RH perhaps become unbearable at home since 2010, when he stopped his "escapades", because they no longer brought him satisfaction? Did he also stop meeting with SWs? I can't imagine it.

Although I don't think, RH ever stopped murdering until he got caught, his fine ritual: AE/CS out of town ---> RH meeting and murdering a victim ---> AE/CS back from vacation and RH again the caring husband, this fine ritual may have been interrupted, and there had to be found a completely new system (murders despite presence of wife, in a car and/or in another state, disposing no longer at the LI beaches but far away). That may have affected his mood as a husband/father. For me it would explain, why they began to think about divorce. But of course I don't know, whether they couldn't get along since 2010.

Why AE fell in love again, when her husband turned out to be a SK, is a mystery to me.

MOO

 

[Forest_Wood]

Did RH perhaps become unbearable at home since 2010, when he stopped his "escapades", because they no longer brought him satisfaction? Did he also stop meeting with SWs? I can't imagine it.

Snipped. Do you remember when RH was first arrested and LE stated they had reason to believe he was getting ready to strike again? They had photos of him purchasing another burner phone and/or more minutes. And the lady who met with him at a restaurant (many years after 2010) where he wanted her to go back to his home and she was spooked. RH kept visiting sex workers all these years. What happened to their theory he was about to strike again, which was one of their reasons for arresting him when they did. We never again heard anything about that.
MOO

 

[waldojabba]

Did RH perhaps become unbearable at home since 2010, when he stopped his "escapades", because they no longer brought him satisfaction? Did he also stop meeting with SWs? I can't imagine it.

Although I don't think, RH ever stopped murdering until he got caught, his fine ritual: AE/CS out of town ---> RH meeting and murdering a victim ---> AE/CS back from vacation and RH again the caring husband, this fine ritual may have been interrupted, and there had to be found a completely new system (murders despite presence of wife, in a car and/or in another state, disposing no longer at the LI beaches but far away). That may have affected his mood as a husband/father. For me it would explain, why they began to think about divorce. But of course I don't know, whether they couldn't get along since 2010.

Why AE fell in love again, when her husband turned out to be a SK, is a mystery to me.

MOO

It was also said by Macedonia - that prior to Rex's arrest Asa was going through one kind of cancer or another for a 7-10 yr period. This will strain even a marriage built on a strong foundation imo

Having faced the same type of situation ( as many of us have on these threads) you really find out who has your back bc there are rough moments for sure.
I do not see Rex as playing a supportive role as caretaker to Asa. Prob said Victoria take care of your Mother and then left to do whatever job, gun range, hunting etc. and was overall "neglectful" bc a sick wife was not part of the plan.

Some men divorce their wife's and just move on to a newer younger version. Like Newt Gingrich. It happens more oftten than I ever suspected imo - when reading on cancer threads over at Reddit - just imo.

Just another reason why there possibly might have been stress in the marriage and talk of divorce.

JMO

 

[Maat99]

We all should know here that making statements as fact requires a source. Stating that someone was part of a cult cannot be ascertained from watching a documentary; the same with diagnosing someone as having a trauma response by watching a documentary. I don't know what you'd like me to source about my opinion, since I clearly wrote IMO. I see Asa as a strong and manipulative individual who has managed to get her own way in life. That is my opinion and not fact.
MOO

Here is what Mrs. A said: “Regarding Asa, she has been in a cult of Rex's personality for decades. She and Victoria exhibit lots of trauma related behaviors.” It seems obvious to me that “Cult of Rex’s personality” isn’t an official organized cult with members. It is a state of mind and is akin to saying she has a mind of her own and is manipulative. And fwiw, here is an article quoting Asa - she herself claims she is experiencing trauma.

Gilgo Beach serial murderer’s ex reveals she now sleeps in the ‘kill room’

A ‘nervous’ Rex Heuermann admitted to his ex-wife Asa Ellerup that not only had he killed more women than publicly suspected — the murders took place just feet away from her own kitchen

www.the-independent.com

But bottom line, imo there are a lot of bizarre statements and behaviors shown by the family of RH (mainly Asa). We are all trying to get our heads around it by using our own observations and experiences. And frankly, both of these theories seem plausible to me. There will likely never be an official “source” that can fully explain it. JMO, imo.

 

[FromGermany1]

Snipped. Do you remember when RH was first arrested and LE stated they had reason to believe he was getting ready to strike again? They had photos of him purchasing another burner phone and/or more minutes. And the lady who met with him at a restaurant (many years after 2010) where he wanted her to go back to his home and she was spooked. RH kept visiting sex workers all these years. What happened to their theory he was about to strike again, which was one of their reasons for arresting him when they did. We never again heard anything about that.
MOO

Now I remember! Thanks!

 

[Forest_Wood]

Here is what Mrs. A said: “Regarding Asa, she has been in a cult of Rex's personality for decades. She and Victoria exhibit lots of trauma related behaviors.” It seems obvious to me that “Cult of Rex’s personality” isn’t an official organized cult with members. It is a state of mind and is akin to saying she has a mind of her own and is manipulative. And fwiw, here is an article quoting Asa - she herself claims she is experiencing trauma.

Gilgo Beach serial murderer’s ex reveals she now sleeps in the ‘kill room’

A ‘nervous’ Rex Heuermann admitted to his ex-wife Asa Ellerup that not only had he killed more women than publicly suspected — the murders took place just feet away from her own kitchen

www.the-independent.com

But bottom line, imo there are a lot of bizarre statements and behaviors shown by the family of RH (mainly Asa). We are all trying to get our heads around it by using our own observations and experiences. And frankly, both of these theories seem plausible to me. There will likely never be an official “source” that can fully explain it. JMO, imo.

The entire comment by the poster was actually: "Regarding Asa, she has been in a cult of Rex's personality for decades. She and Victoria exhibit lots of trauma related behaviors. I was raised in a cult for about 15 years. It took me over 15 years out to deconstruct from it. I'm still working on it! I have hope for her. She is doing crazy stuff right now because she is testing new boundaries in a new reality. Putting it on a TV show and having everyone gawk in condemnation is unfair. People in cults don't make their own choices. They are mind controlled. It's obvious to me that she was mind controlled because as soon as Macedonio stepped in to be her new leader, she held to him. I do not know when she's going to wake up, but I do think she will. She already lives a nightmare and waking up is going to be absolutely awful.

It's not obvious to me that AE was mind controlled, or in a cult of any kind. I view her as a strong, angry and fierce individual (as portrayed in media after RH's arrest) who perhaps relishes being viewed as an ultimate victim, and her lawyer has run with that distortion to garner money and sympathy from others. "Cancer." "Her own world." And other comments made about her by her very own lawyer. Both of them are making a killing off of Rex's killings. I have zero sympathy for the circumstance of her own making.
MOO
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[Maat99]

The entire comment by the poster was actually: "Regarding Asa, she has been in a cult of Rex's personality for decades. She and Victoria exhibit lots of trauma related behaviors. I was raised in a cult for about 15 years. It took me over 15 years out to deconstruct from it. I'm still working on it! I have hope for her. She is doing crazy stuff right now because she is testing new boundaries in a new reality. Putting it on a TV show and having everyone gawk in condemnation is unfair. People in cults don't make their own choices. They are mind controlled. It's obvious to me that she was mind controlled because as soon as Macedonio stepped in to be her new leader, she held to him. I do not know when she's going to wake up, but I do think she will. She already lives a nightmare and waking up is going to be absolutely awful.

Yeah - again, to me it’s obvious this means the mindset is the same and isn’t stating that Asa was in a literal cult led by RH or Macedonio. JMO. But we can agree to disagree.

 

[hot cawfeee]

Snipped. Do you remember when RH was first arrested and LE stated they had reason to believe he was getting ready to strike again? They had photos of him purchasing another burner phone and/or more minutes. And the lady who met with him at a restaurant (many years after 2010) where he wanted her to go back to his home and she was spooked. RH kept visiting sex workers all these years. What happened to their theory he was about to strike again, which was one of their reasons for arresting him when they did. We never again heard anything about that.
MOO

Thats right !!! I wonder if he did kill someone and the victim hasn't yet been found........got a chill typing that

 

[dotr]

Considering what went on in that (de)basement, these words take on a different sort of meaning, imo.
Apr 29, 2026 rbbm

Gilgo Beach Murders: Rex Heuermann's Ex-Wife Asa Ellerup Reveals Why She's Now Sleeping in His Kill Room

After Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex Heuermann confessed to murdering eight women, his ex-wife Asa Ellerup shared that she’s been sleeping in what was the so-called kill room of their Long Island home.

www.eonline.com

''She remodeled the space—which originally served as Heuermann's childhood bedroom—into a functional basement, decorating the space with a green Hello Kitty bedspread and shelves of plushies and Panda bear stuffed animals. As depicted in the docuseries, the walls are adorned with floral paintings and a cross. ''

"It's been completely gutted and redone," Ellerup said. "New floor, new walls, new moldings, new doors."

 

[Izzylizzy]

The two things that AE said to the FBI when they came knocking that have stayed with me.
I posted this June 12,2025 soon after the documentary was aired on TV on the 10th.

When asked if she's heard of the Gilgo Beach murders why would AE immediately say to the FBI.
"but I don't know anything"

This is up there with "it is what it is"
IMO

“I was waiting for my husband, but he didn’t come home. And then suddenly I see them come on the front porch,” she said. “They push their way in and they asked me, do you know why we’re here. And I said, my husband’s guns?

“And the woman investigator says to me, ‘Have you heard about the murders on Gilgo Beach?’ And I said, ‘I heard of them, but I don’t know anything."

Accused Gilgo Beach killer Rex Heuermann’s kin recall night their lives changed in new documentary

Asa Ellerup said in a new Peacock documentary that she was waiting for her husband, Rex Heuermann to come home, when the FBI shattered her life.

nypost.com

 

[Izzylizzy]

Considering what went on in that (de)basement, these words take on a different sort of meaning, imo.
Apr 29, 2026 rbbm

Gilgo Beach Murders: Rex Heuermann's Ex-Wife Asa Ellerup Reveals Why She's Now Sleeping in His Kill Room

After Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex Heuermann confessed to murdering eight women, his ex-wife Asa Ellerup shared that she’s been sleeping in what was the so-called kill room of their Long Island home.

www.eonline.com

''She remodeled the space—which originally served as Heuermann's childhood bedroom—into a functional basement, decorating the space with a green Hello Kitty bedspread and shelves of plushies and Panda bear stuffed animals. As depicted in the docuseries, the walls are adorned with floral paintings and a cross. ''

"It's been completely gutted and redone," Ellerup said. "New floor, new walls, new moldings, new doors."

I caught the "completely gutted" too but let it go because I had other fish I was frying about her.
Good that you pointed it out and it obviously got the green -light from her lawyer Macedonio because it remained and easily could have been edited out or her scene done again.

I'm still in disbelief about AE's torture chamber boudoir and thought maybe she's covering all her bases because both Tierney & Rodney Harrison have said the investigation into RH is still going on so maybe she's prepping for a backup plan if need be..like insanity.

imo

 

[snarast]

Asa wasn't always a "devotee"of Rex according to Macedonio.
He said the marriage had been breaking down for a long time and divorce was discussed.

I'm on Team Ruse, Asa immediately denied her husband's involvement in these horrific crimes against women and became his number 1 defender claiming what a wonderful husband and family man he is otherwise if she fessed up to what really went on in the marriage and home life with him that led to her marriage breakdown and wanting a divorce it would indicate there were red flags and a trail of evidence crumbs for decades and she purposely ignored them.
I don't think she was really surprised when he was arrested, more shocked that LE finally caught up with him.
imo

With the rate he was hiring escorts for "normal" activities, I can't see how anyone would be surprised at Åsa wanting to ditch him. That alone is really unpleasant behaviour. She may have thought, "oh he'll get over it when he's past 40 - result: nope - past 50 - result: nope. Ok, time to throw in the towel."

Now - murdering people - do you really think she knew about that?

IMHOO