Going back to the beginning

[lonetraveler]

There are 2 other bedrooms for the children. Why were they sleeping in Ronald/Misty's bedroom? Was there some sort of threat?

I also find it odd that Jr.'s "bedroom" was never shown on any of the MH walkthrus.

 

[lonetraveler]

While Teresa Neves is explaining to NG who was at Ron's in the evening and why her mother made a trip there, Ron blurts out “my cousin went in there” which was news to me.

<snipped> http://archives.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/16/ng.01.html

GRACE: Let`s go to the source and find out. To Marlaina Schiavo, joining us from Satsuma.

Marlaina, who was in the home that evening?

SCHIAVO: Misty was in the home with the two children that evening, Nancy.

GRACE: Had there been visitors prior to that?

SCHIAVO: She had a cousin visiting from out of town earlier. And so he was in the home at some point, but we`re still trying to figure out exactly how that`s all pieced together, Nancy.

GRACE: To Teresa Neves, Haleigh`s grandmother. Miss Neves, are you aware of anyone else in the home that evening? I don`t mean when they all go to bed, I mean earlier that evening.

NEVES: I heard there was a repairman there. My mother was actually over.

GRACE: I`m sorry, I couldn`t hear you. There was a repairman there. The cousin was there who police have investigated.

NEVES: Yes, ma`am.

GRACE: Who else?

NEVES: My mother came by that night.

GRACE: For what reason?

CUMMINGS: My cousin went in there. [/B]

NEVES: She brought some clean clothes over.

GRACE: OK.

NEVES: She had some of the kid`s clothes at her house and she had washed them and brought them over. That was sometime between 7:00 and 8:00 p.m. that night.

LOL, I was born and raised in a rural area of the South and I heard: My cousin wuddn't there. This word "wuddn't" is used by country folk for the word "wasn't". IMO, that was what Ronald Cummings was saying.

 

[Crosby87]

LOL, I was born and raised in a rural area of the South and I heard: My cousin wuddn't there. This word "wuddn't" is used by country folk for the word "wasn't". IMO, that was what Ronald Cummings was saying.

I respectfully disagree. The transcript says Ron said his cousin went in there. Why would Ron mention it if it didn't happen? It's a shame NG didn't ask Ron to name his cousin.

 

[Crosby87]

This comment by Ronald Cummings grabbed my attention and I would like to know what you think.

When NG and Ronald Cummings were discussing why Misty waited to call 911, Ron said to make sure HaLeigh wasn&#8217;t &#8220;up in the bathroom or in a &#8220;. Obviously if HaLeigh was &#8220;up in the bathroom ceiling, she wouldn&#8217;t have gone there on her own; someone would have had to place her &#8220;up there who knew its location.

I could be over analyzing Ron&#8217;s statement and he simply meant they wanted to make sure HaLeigh hadn&#8217;t gotten up to use the bathroom, which by the way would have already been checked and found to be vacant. Ron might have been describing what happened to HaLeigh - someone lifted her up and hide her. So in fact, HaLeigh was not hiding, she was hidden by someone.

<snipped> http://archives.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/16/ng.01.html

GRACE: Joining me tonight in a primetime exclusive, Haleigh`s father, Ronald Cummings, along with her grandmother, Teresa Neves, taking your calls live.

Ronald, one thing I want to clear up. I still don`t understand why she didn`t call 911 the minute she realized Haleigh was gone. Or was it a matter of timing?

RONALD CUMMINGS: I think she was still looking to make sure that Haleigh -- she wasn`t going to make a false 911 call. She was making sure that Haleigh was not, you know, up in the bathroom or in a...

GRACE: Got it.

RONALD CUMMINGS: ... got up and moved up to another room or whatever. You know, I think she was just being sure that...

GRACE: So when you pull up -- when you pull up, she`s still looking?

RONALD CUMMINGS: Absolutely.

GRACE: OK. All right. I get it.

 

[nomoresorrow]

This comment by Ronald Cummings grabbed my attention and I would like to know what you think.

When NG and Ronald Cummings were discussing why Misty waited to call 911, Ron said to make sure HaLeigh wasn&#8217;t &#8220;up in the bathroom or in a &#8220;. Obviously if HaLeigh was &#8220;up in the bathroom ceiling, she wouldn&#8217;t have gone there on her own; someone would have had to place her &#8220;up there who knew its location.

I could be over analyzing Ron&#8217;s statement and he simply meant they wanted to make sure HaLeigh hadn&#8217;t gotten up to use the bathroom, which by the way would have already been checked and found to be vacant. Ron might have been describing what happened to HaLeigh - someone lifted her up and hide her. So in fact, HaLeigh was not hiding, she was hidden by someone.

<snipped> http://archives.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/16/ng.01.html

GRACE: Joining me tonight in a primetime exclusive, Haleigh`s father, Ronald Cummings, along with her grandmother, Teresa Neves, taking your calls live.

Ronald, one thing I want to clear up. I still don`t understand why she didn`t call 911 the minute she realized Haleigh was gone. Or was it a matter of timing?

RONALD CUMMINGS: I think she was still looking to make sure that Haleigh -- she wasn`t going to make a false 911 call. She was making sure that Haleigh was not, you know, up in the bathroom or in a...

GRACE: Got it.

RONALD CUMMINGS: ... got up and moved up to another room or whatever. You know, I think she was just being sure that...

GRACE: So when you pull up -- when you pull up, she`s still looking?

RONALD CUMMINGS: Absolutely.

GRACE: OK. All right. I get it.

Hi Bluesky! I think you may be taking each word that Ron uses (and drops...) too literally. Ron tends to condense/compact his sentences. For example, "up in the bathroom" actually means (IMO) "up and in the bathroom" - rather than literally being "up" somewhere (i.e., up in the ceiling), in this case, the bathroom. Re-worded appropriately, it would have been "She (Ronald referring to Misty) was making sure that Haleigh was not, you know, up and in the bathroom or in a..." That's just my take on it though.

 

[EastCoast]

I respectfully disagree. The transcript says Ron said his cousin went in there. Why would Ron mention it if it didn't happen? It's a shame NG didn't ask Ron to name his cousin.

Part 5 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIdhmJ_uxtg
I have listened to that particular interview over and over. I believe the transcript is incorrect. IMO Ronald clearly says the cousin "wudn't" in there.
Which is a common way to say wasn't in the south.

 

[Concerned Papa]

LOL, I was born and raised in a rural area of the South and I heard: My cousin wuddn't there. This word "wuddn't" is used by country folk for the word "wasn't". IMO, that was what Ronald Cummings was saying.

As was I, my friend. For those not fortunate enough to be born and raised "Southern By The Grace Of God", either of these two highly acclaimed reference manuals should heighten your linguistic skills.

Both are available at amazon.com, ya'll. LOL

 

[Baznme]

I respectfully disagree. The transcript says Ron said his cousin went in there. Why would Ron mention it if it didn't happen? It's a shame NG didn't ask Ron to name his cousin.

I disagree. What the transcript says and what is on the video are two different things. He says "cousin wuddn't there". He mentions it because he is disputing what Marlena Shiavo says when asked who was in the home earlier in the evening and she mentioned a repairman and Misty's cousin.

 

[Crosby87]

NG asked TN and RC at the 7 mm who was at the home that evening so it makes no sense to me why Ron would say my cousin wasn't there. NG wants to know who was there, not who wasn't there. How could Ron make this mistake? Unfortunately the reason it is difficult to hear Ron is because he spoke while his mother was talking and NG did not ask Ron to clarify what he said. Hope is Ron&#8217;s cousin and Ron has male cousins as well.

The transcript reads:

Snip http://archives.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/16/ng.01.html

CUMMINGS: My cousin went in there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIdhmJ_uxtg&feature=player_embedded#


If HaLeigh and Junior were sleeping in their father&#8217;s bedroom on Monday night, they would more than likely use the bathroom in the master bedroom and not need to leave the room during the night. If they needed a drink of water, they could get it from the tap. They had lived in the trailer for 3 months and feared the dark, so Jr and HaLeigh may have been too frightened to even leave the bedroom on their own.

Q: Did Misty claim Junior left the bed and bedroom Monday after she got into bed with him?

Q: Were the tan shorts HaLeigh wore to bed Monday evening found in the home? TIA.

 

[tehcloser]

Why would he call Misty's cousin HIS cousin?

 

[uvamerica]

Why do some pple think that RC's plea deal had anything to do with Haleigh's case? RC has said that he does not know what happened to Haleigh. RC was busted for drugs. The only thing that has happened after the plea, is many drug dealers have been arrested and continue to be arrested. So it would seem that RC's plea had nothing to do with Haleigh.

 

[krkrjx]

Why do some pple think that RC's plea deal had anything to do with Haleigh's case? RC has said that he does not know what happened to Haleigh. RC was busted for drugs. The only thing that has happened after the plea, is many drug dealers have been arrested and continue to be arrested. So it would seem that RC's plea had nothing to do with Haleigh.

MOO is that RC gave info regarding other activities rather than anything to do with Haleigh's disappearance. I do not believe RC has any information he could safely give regarding Haleigh. His attorney did say that RC had clarified some things regarding the timeline that night and that he agreed to testify if there is ever an arrest for Haleigh's disappearance, but my thoughts are that RC agreed because he did not expect such a trial to ever take place. Ron, through his attorney, made a statement that he did not think the case would ever be solved; one has nothing to lose by accepting an offer to testify at a trial that will likely never happen.

 

[Nonni Brenda]

Part 5 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIdhmJ_uxtg
I have listened to that particular interview over and over. I believe the transcript is incorrect. IMO Ronald clearly says the cousin "wudn't" in there.
Which is a common way to say wasn't in the south.

I agree that he was saying "wudn't",meaning wasn't. My question is what cousin? Who is HIS cousin? Joe is misty's cousin.:waitasec:

 

[uvamerica]

Going back to the beginning! I have pondered what is it that stands out in this case . The truth is many things stand out . But the one thing that puzzles me is RC marrying MC. I believe that RC married MC because of an agreement that was made. first of all I believe that TN was sick of 'sitting' for RC when Misty was gone. I think when I have seen TN crying I think she is crying because she feels guilty that she was sick of taking care of Haleigh and Jr and told Ron to get Misty back here pronto. After making the agreement with Misty(although I dont know how Haleigh disappeared I believe their was an agreement between RC, TN and Misty that RC and TN would stand by her as long as she kept her mouth shut). But then everyone was upset because of their marriage(I think RC was not prepared for the backlash that followed) and he had pple like NG asking him what the h*ll are you doing? Then he decided that ok I'll divorce her but still continue the relationship on the sly. And he probably told Misty that some day when things die down we will tie the knot again. Just keep your mouth shut! It sort of explains why no one is talking. Because I do not believe that RC married MC to "keep his enemies closer", that is just BS. You dont need to marry someone to be close to them.:devil: JMO

 

[lonetraveler]

Part 5 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIdhmJ_uxtg
I have listened to that particular interview over and over. I believe the transcript is incorrect. IMO Ronald clearly says the cousin "wudn't" in there.
Which is a common way to say wasn't in the south.

Yep, I agree. I posted the same thing a few posts up. I've heard "wasn't" pronounced "wuddn't" all my life and this IMO is exactly what Ron was saying as he was nodding his head "NO". However, I can understand how some folks have a bit of a problem understanding "southern talk", LOL.

 

[Baznme]

Snipped for space - my replies in red.NG asked TN and RC at the 7 mm who was at the home that evening so it makes no sense to me why Ron would say my cousin wasn't there. That is correct. Before NG asks RC and TN who was at the home, she addressed Marlena Shiavo with the same question. Listen to her answer on the video. She refers to "Misty's cousin", not Ron's.

NG wants to know who was there, not who wasn't there. Correct. Yes, it is difficult to hear Ron but I'm about 2 hours away from Satsuma and have lived in this area for many years. It's a language all it's own here and I think I've gotten pretty good over the years with understanding what we call "redneck lingo". It's not a branding or a slur on the culture. It just is what it is. The words "my", "went" and "in" are not in his answer. I hear three words from him. "Cousin wuddn't there". The transcript is only as good as it's interpreter and this wouldn't be the first transcript to have discrepancies in it from the NG shows. So I heartily disagree.How could Ron make this mistake? He didn't make a mistake. HIS cousins were not the question, Misty's cousin was. Unfortunately the reason it is difficult to hear Ron is because he spoke while his mother was talking and NG did not ask Ron to clarify what he said. TN didn't clarify it either. Hope is Ron’s cousin and Ron has male cousins as well.

We just don't happen to agree on this point.

 

[lonetraveler]

NG asked TN and RC at the 7 mm who was at the home that evening so it makes no sense to me why Ron would say my cousin wasn't there. NG wants to know who was there, not who wasn't there. How could Ron make this mistake? Unfortunately the reason it is difficult to hear Ron is because he spoke while his mother was talking and NG did not ask Ron to clarify what he said. Hope is Ron’s cousin and Ron has male cousins as well.

The transcript reads:

Snip http://archives.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/16/ng.01.html

CUMMINGS: My cousin went in there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIdhmJ_uxtg&feature=player_embedded#


If HaLeigh and Junior were sleeping in their father’s bedroom on Monday night, they would more than likely use the bathroom in the master bedroom and not need to leave the room during the night. If they needed a drink of water, they could get it from the tap. They had lived in the trailer for 3 months and feared the dark, so Jr and HaLeigh may have been too frightened to even leave the bedroom on their own.

Q: Did Misty claim Junior left the bed and bedroom Monday after she got into bed with him?

Q: Were the tan shorts HaLeigh wore to bed Monday evening found in the home? TIA.

Someone please listen to the last video at the 5:16 mark where Ron states that no one else has a key to the MH; did I hear Teresa say in the background "I have one"?

 

[lonetraveler]

MOO is that RC gave info regarding other activities rather than anything to do with Haleigh's disappearance. I do not believe RC has any information he could safely give regarding Haleigh. His attorney did say that RC had clarified some things regarding the timeline that night and that he agreed to testify if there is ever an arrest for Haleigh's disappearance, but my thoughts are that RC agreed because he did not expect such a trial to ever take place. Ron, through his attorney, made a statement that he did not think the case would ever be solved; one has nothing to lose by accepting an offer to testify at a trial that will likely never happen.

BBM: I agree, I do not think that Ron will say anything that would incriminate himself. He will pick and choose any tidbits that do not put him in a suspicious light. :waitasec: I'm still wondering how LE will vet Ron's answers.

 

[Baznme]

Someone please listen to the last video at the 5:16 mark where Ron states that no one else has a key to the MH; did I hear Teresa say in the background "I have one"?

You may be correct, I hear her say something that resembles "I have one" but, I can't be sure.

However, what I did notice during that video is that Ron seems surprised at the statement of the caller that there was a cousin at the MH earlier that night besides the A/C repairman and denies that. Then when the camera is switched to TN, she is asked that question and she mentions the A/C repairman and her mother stopping by with clothes but skips right over the "cousin" question. She seemed to be half hearing NG when she asks this though.

GRACE: I`m sorry, I couldn`t hear you. There was a repairman there? The cousin was there who police have investigated?

NEVES: Yes, ma`am.

GRACE: Who else?

NEVES: My mother came by that night.

My point is only this. He denies it and she avoids the question regarding the cousin question only to admit it 3 seconds later with the conclusive question from NG. Do we know how the issue of Misty's cousin being at the house earlier came up? Was it something Misty said?

 

[krkrjx]

You may be correct, I hear her say something that resembles "I have one" but, I can't be sure.

However, what I did notice during that video is that Ron seems surprised at the statement of the caller that there was a cousin at the MH earlier that night besides the A/C repairman and denies that. Then when the camera is switched to TN, she is asked that question and she mentions the A/C repairman and her mother stopping by with clothes but skips right over the "cousin" question. She seemed to be half hearing NG when she asks this though.

GRACE: I`m sorry, I couldn`t hear you. There was a repairman there? The cousin was there who police have investigated?

NEVES: Yes, ma`am.

GRACE: Who else?

NEVES: My mother came by that night.

My point is only this. He denies it and she avoids the question regarding the cousin question only to admit it 3 seconds later with the conclusive question from NG. Do we know how the issue of Misty's cousin being at the house earlier came up? Was it something Misty said?

BBM: I do not think we do know exactly how it was said that Joe had been at the MH that evening. I recall it having been said but I do not recall who may have said it initially. I know it was questioned over and over and Ron denied it over and over.

So...was JO there at any point that day/evening or not? If he wasn't, why wouldn't Misty just come out and say that Joe wasn't there? And if he was, what reason would Ron have for denying it over and over? Even more important might be how Ron could insist JO wasn't there if he himself was not there.