Group Plans Memorial Walkway For Caylee

[Well Done 99]

Most alarming is Jeff does not seem to understand basic real estate when a buyer and seller come together to complete a purchase; and the property is either paid in full or a mortgage is placed on the property. Does anyone really own their property Jeff, or do the banks own it?

http://www.bringkidshome.org/sentinel.htm

This property has not closed yet. It is still showing pending and has been for sometime now. It appears to me a mtg can not be obtained on this property and may be a cash deal.

http://myfloridahomemls.com/SiteContent/PropDetail.aspx?N=0&S=MFR&ID=31361963

Status PNC = Pending

JMO

PS Yes some people own their own properties. I do.

Most puzzling aspect of her (notice I said 'her') thinking? Why would an agreement to a cash sale cause delay anyhow?

 

[LambChop]

Exactly. Whose position is it then?
Lol. State something on your site and then say you're not responsible for saying it!

They want to be rude and get away with it but not be accountable for money taken in. Genuine fund raisers with nothing to hide would have been totally positive in their response not defensive. When you present a negative defense it leads people to believe you are not being truthful. As if this is anything new in this case. Caylee is the truth in this case and her family is the exact opposite. A house built on sand. A memorial built on deception. People need assurances that this organization is on the up and up and they have every right to ask before donating.

Seems to me the people who volunteered to help pick up the site should be able to have their questions answered by BKH. Berating these people on their website can only bring BKH further problems. jmo

 

[Sparky]

A cash deal can close in no time. We bought a foreclosure pd cash and closed in less then 2 weeks. We also tried to purchase raw land and we found only one mtg co that would finance it at 80%.

IMO they don't have the cash to close and probably don't have cash for a down payment if a mtg co would require 20% down. They would have to give a escrow payment to hold the property, which may be any where from 500. to 2500 or more. Our escrow was 2500.

Also, if financing they would have to have a good credit score and with the economy the way it is...who knows.

Now, they have decided to sue the OS which will take thousands of dollars they probably don't have. If they do have the funds to sue they could possibly pay cash for this property or at least the 20% down.

IMO they should have kept their thoughts to themselves instead of blasting the volunteer and the OS. Not only does this make them look foolish, it now makes them look more shady than I already thought they were and might possibly open themselves up to a slander lawsuit from the volunteer.

JMO

 

[LambChop]

A cash deal can close in no time. We bought a foreclosure pd cash and closed in less then 2 weeks. We also tried to purchase raw land and we found only one mtg co that would finance it at 80%.

IMO they don't have the cash to close and probably don't have cash for a down payment if a mtg co would require 20% down. They would have to give a escrow payment to hold the property, which may be any where from 500. to 2500 or more. Our escrow was 2500.

Also, if financing they would have to have a good credit score and with the economy the way it is...who knows.

Now, they have decided to sue the OS which will take thousands of dollars they probably don't have. If they do have the funds to sue they could possibly pay cash for this property or at least the 20% down.

IMO they should have kept their thoughts to themselves instead of blasting the volunteer and the OS. Not only does this make them look foolish, it now makes them look more shady than I already thought they were and might possibly open themselves up to a slander lawsuit from the volunteer.

JMO

Exactly what I was thinking. I hope OSdoes not let up on them. Haven't there been enough victums associated with this case? jmo

 

[Sparky]

A cash deal can close in no time. We bought a foreclosure pd cash and closed in less then 2 weeks. We also tried to purchase raw land and we found only one mtg co that would finance it at 80%.

IMO they don't have the cash to close and probably don't have cash for a down payment if a mtg co would require 20% down. They would have to give a escrow payment to hold the property, which may be any where from 500. to 2500 or more. Our escrow was 2500.

Also, if financing they would have to have a good credit score and with the economy the way it is...who knows.

Now, they have decided to sue the OS which will take thousands of dollars they probably don't have. If they do have the funds to sue they could possibly pay cash for this property or at least the 20% down.

IMO they should have kept their thoughts to themselves instead of blasting the volunteer and the OS. Not only does this make them look foolish, it now makes them look more shady than I already thought they were and might possibly open themselves up to a slander lawsuit from the volunteer.

JMO

Sorry to quote myself..but I wanted to add this.

If they were to finance this property, then they would have a mtg payment. If they could find someone to finance it. What company in their right mind would do this. Let's also remember whoever purchases it would have to disclose their income, if they were to purchase under their name. If they tried to purchase under BKH I don't think it would fly. If they defaulted on the payments and the property went into foreclosure then the mtg co would get it back. Let's say the project was underway and they defaulted. Then the mtg co would be stuck with an unfinished project they can't sell. So who then has lost their money. Not the buyer.

The only way I could see them purchasing this property is if the owner was to do a owner financing or cash. The owner has owned this property for so long I don't see a owner financing happening either. I would think he would want to wash his hands of it and make some money in the process.

JMO

 

[What'sThatClue]

Most puzzling aspect of her (notice I said 'her') thinking? Why would an agreement to a cash sale cause delay anyhow?

I'm assuming that the contract on the land might be contingent upon obtaining zoning and permits.

They're apparently not on the agenda yet for a zoning change (Orange County Clerk) for the first meeting in Nov. Nothing posted far as I can see. Sometimes it takes a while to go before zoning to request a change, then there's the permitting after that.

 

[What'sThatClue]

IMO they should have kept their thoughts to themselves instead of blasting the volunteer and the OS. Not only does this make them look foolish, it now makes them look more shady than I already thought they were and might possibly open themselves up to a slander lawsuit from the volunteer.

JMO

respectfully snipped...


It concerns me that the volunteers stated in the OS article that they've been asked not to return to the property:

People asked the Goodnoughs: What other endeavors has the nonprofit been involved in? How much money has it collected?

But they weren't able to answer those questions, and when they asked for basic tax information from the charity's executive director, the Goodnoughs say they were cut loose and asked not to return to the woods off Suburban Drive.

Unless BKH is renting the property, I would assume they have no right to ask anyone to not return to the woods there. The article does not state that this came from the owner of the property. So, JMO, unless BKH has a rental agreement with the owner (and who knows, they might have one but they haven't stated this), they'd have no right to do this.

Plus, they've apparently bashed the volunteers publicly, despite their disclaimer. Said LE is investigating. Hmmm. Now, if the guy was convicted of something or there's a judgement/order, go ahead and say that. (I checked the OC Clerk and couldn't find anything yet). But throwing out allegations without proof? Uh Oh...I do smell a slander/libel suit, and it isn't coming FROM BKH but TO them, JMO

MOO

 

[ZsaZsa]

Wow. Sounds like they enlisted Cindy to help them write it! I hope their project fails. I don't want people like them memorializing Caylee. Don't they understand that fighting is what killed this child in the first place, and what she saw a lot in her short life? Not good BKH, not good at all!

I was just thinking the same thing. It has Cindy written all over it.
My Gosh does anyone of these self-styled ORGs walk upright or do they all just slither around trying to make a buck off Caylee?

 

[Sparky]

Though he remains committed to the project, Jefrë said he wants to work directly with someone who owns the property. He expressed concerns over whether Bring Kids Home could see the memorial through.

"It's difficult to invest my efforts in a client that doesn't exist," he said.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...orial-charity-20111027,0,3722693.story?page=2

Why would he say something like this? Has Jefrë not met his client? Oh never mind, I get it, his client is a friend of KC. :floorlaugh:

 

[Sparky]

respectfully snipped...


It concerns me that the volunteers stated in the OS article that they've been asked not to return to the property:



Unless BKH is renting the property, I would assume they have no right to ask anyone to not return to the woods there. The article does not state that this came from the owner of the property. So, JMO, unless BKH has a rental agreement with the owner (and who knows, they might have one but they haven't stated this), they'd have no right to do this.

Plus, they've apparently bashed the volunteers publicly, despite their disclaimer. Said LE is investigating. Hmmm. Now, if the guy was convicted of something or there's a judgement/order, go ahead and say that. (I checked the OC Clerk and couldn't find anything yet). But throwing out allegations without proof? Uh Oh...I do smell a slander/libel suit, and it isn't coming FROM BKH but TO them, JMO

MOO

I would think if they had a rental agreement that's money taking away from their pockets, I mean project.

I personally think it's a lot of hot air and this thing ain't happen'.

 

[What'sThatClue]

Though he remains committed to the project, Jefrë said he wants to work directly with someone who owns the property. He expressed concerns over whether Bring Kids Home could see the memorial through.

"It's difficult to invest my efforts in a client that doesn't exist," he said.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...orial-charity-20111027,0,3722693.story?page=2

Why would he say something like this? Has Jefrë not met his client? Oh never mind, I get it, his client is a friend of KC. :floorlaugh:

I also wonder why he'd say something like that. Sounds as if he's having major doubts now about this project. Must be something going on behind the scenes to make him feel that way and I bet it's not just that he hasn't worked with the property owner. Just speculating here, but something must have happened. JMO

 

[LambChop]

Well, let's put it this way. It appears the property owner is having his site cleaned up at no cost to him by the volunteers. I guess the buyers can take as long as they want to.

If all the information is located online regarding their tax information how hard would it have been to send the volunteers the location site and they could see for themselves. No reason to send them a copy. Just email them back, say this is where the information is located, go have a look for yourself and if you have any further questions I'll be happy to get back to you with an answer. Now, was that hard????? jmo

 

[wonders]

I agree that the Anthony's have their paw prints all over this idiotic idea. As CA said herself "Caylee was only a shell", so what better way to profit from little Caylee then to have the site as a "memorial" that will never come to pass cuz people are onto the misdealings of folks who are just hanging around for the cash they can make. I thought it was very strange that they showed up to Caylee's b-day memorial all dressed in their Caylee t-shirts. To me it was as phony as the memorial service that was by invitation only. This is a project that needs to dry up and blow away PERIOD.

 

[logicalgirl]

I agree that the Anthony's have their paw prints all over this idiotic idea. As CA said herself "Caylee was only a shell", so what better way to profit from little Caylee then to have the site as a "memorial" that will never come to pass cuz people are onto the misdealings of folks who are just hanging around for the cash they can make. I thought it was very strange that they showed up to Caylee's b-day memorial all dressed in their Caylee t-shirts. To me it was as phony as the memorial service that was by invitation only. This is a project that needs to dry up and blow away PERIOD.

I'm suspicious of any project that doesn't even have zoning in place before holding out their hands for donations.....:furious:

 

[ExpectingUnicorns]

I am so thankful for Jeff Weiner and his article; hope he will write a Part II revealing the documents Segura said he would provide within 30 days. This entire organization needs the light shone on them and I'm not talking about any little floating halo light, either!

Thanks to all of you faithful posters who have kept BKH on your radars and shared with all of us. Good job!

 

[Well Done 99]

I also wonder why he'd say something like that. Sounds as if he's having major doubts now about this project. Must be something going on behind the scenes to make him feel that way and I bet it's not just that he hasn't worked with the property owner. Just speculating here, but something must have happened. JMO

I agree. The tone of the blurb on the site also leads me to believe that there has been more gone on between the warring parties than meets the eye or is superficially evident.

 

[CarolinaWoman]

According to the National Center for Charitable Statistics (NCCS) the 990 Tax form filed by this organization in April 2010 for the 2009 tax year, notes on the tax form indicate "2009 first year of operation."

http://dynamodata.fdncenter.org/990_pdf_archive/263/263337415/263337415_200912_990EZ.pdf

 

[LambChop]

According to the National Center for Charitable Statistics (NCCS) the 990 Tax form filed by this organization in April 2010 for the 2009 tax year, notes on the tax form indicate "2009 first year of operation."

http://dynamodata.fdncenter.org/990_pdf_archive/263/263337415/263337415_200912_990EZ.pdf

Quite an endeavor for an organization with no money. jmo

 

[Well Done 99]

Quite an endeavor for an organization with no money. jmo

Rather coincidental the donations of precisely $4000 more or less cover the expenses of the organization's activities, which are supposedly 'web pressence' (sic) and 'web-based education'. Huh? Let's hope they're not teaching English.

 

[Well Done 99]

Oh, this should be good. Lots of good info about the org and its owners might come out. I wonder if they realize that. The OS must have really ticked them off.

http://www.facebook.com/BringKidsHome



Wonder how the OS worked "devioiusly for months to stop the Memorial Project"? I never saw anything negative in prior stories. Hope they have actual facts to back that statement up.

ETA no info online in public records yet regarding a suit filed...if and when one is filed it'll show in public records.

Seems the Sentinel may not be the only one in the organizations sights. One of their stated aims:

'Media and Missing Children
How the major networks are profiting from cases in the news and have purchased photos of missing children or paid parents of the missing for media appearances. Reporting news regarding missing children is one thing; but funding principal parties and defense attorneys; raises many ethical concerns.'
bringkidshome.org/news.htm


Yes, in a way they're correct but note how they are not talking about payments to parents who have been implicated, charged with or convicted of anything to do with the child's disappearance. They are talking about all parents.

If a child is genuinely missing, why would the organization be concerned about this at all? There must be better things to focus on.
Odd how it doesn't mention grandparents hmmm. Oh that's right - grandparents need MORE rights.
Apart from anything else, IMO this aim reeks of jealousy.