GUILTY - Sidney Moorer, Obstruction of Justice Trial, Heather Elvis case, 28 Aug 2017 #1

[Surfside]

Can we talk about the fact that SM (his phone) was confirmed to be at LBs that night (via the LEO on stand) and we are just now hearing confirmation of this. ???!!!
WHY wasn't that talked about during the murder trial?

I would have remembered that.

Right?

What's the timeline for Heather's phone and LB's again? I know that SM's phone had been turned off just prior to December 11 upon return from Disneyland, and it was turned back on for the first time at 3:00 am the night Heather went missing. Did he leave the battery in while it was turned off, or did they locate it at LB's at or after 3:00 am?

 

[Victory]

BBM: The thought of that hurts my heart so bad.

Yeah, me too. I probably should keep those thoughts to myself. No need to make y'all suffer through them. Im sorry. Its just that the circumstances of Heathers death has affected me so greatly.

 

[lstiff]

What's the timeline for Heather's phone and LB's again? I know that SM's phone had been turned off just prior to December 11 upon return from Disneyland, and it was turned back on for the first time at 3:00 am the night Heather went missing. Did he leave the battery in while it was turned off, or did they locate it at LB's at or after 3:00 am?

I have no idea about SM phone being at LB b/c it was never confirmed before today. At least to my knowledge. Here is the TL of Heather's phone posted during or after the murder trial:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?238748-Timelines-*No-Discussion-Thread*&p=12666384#post12666384

But there is this from the post linked above:

3:02:42am to 3:15:08am (Heather's phone is located back at Longbeard's. 15 GPS records)

SM Phone is then powered on around 3:02 AM EST,
powering off is not recorded, only power on
when off, no location data is available.

^^ This is information provided by verified experts at the murder trial^^

 

[JerseyGirl]

Can we talk about the fact that SM (his phone) was confirmed to be at LBs that night (via the LEO on stand) and we are just now hearing confirmation of this. ???!!!
WHY wasn't that talked about during the murder trial?

I would have remembered that.

Right?

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...No-Discussion-Thread*&p=12677273#post12677273

This is all that was grabbed during trial:

SM's iPhone:

Location Settings for Photographs:
11/5 to 11/11 - in Horry County
11/23 - west of new mexico
11/29 - thousand oaks
11/29 to 12/06 - anaheim
12/06 el paso
12/07 tennessee
12/10,11 atlanta
after 12/11/2013, there is no geolocation data available (I assume this means location services for photos is turned off, was not specified during trial testimony)

Call Log:
phone is used between 1:09 AM EST and 1:13 AM EST, so it was on at this point.
Phone is then powered on around 3:02 AM EST,
powering off is not recorded, only power on
when off, no location data is available.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Heather's movements:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...No-Discussion-Thread*&p=12666384#post12666384

1:13:10am to 2:31:24am (Heather's Apartment) 77 location records (37 GPS; 40 Wi-fi)
1:35:16am - Incoming Call from Payphone - 298.8 seconds (5 minutes)
1:44:39am - Outgoing Call to Bri - 132 seconds (2 minute and 12 seconds)
2:29:48am - Outgoing Call to Payphone - 12 seconds
2:30:15am - Outgoing Call to Payphone - 4.8 seconds

2:32:57am to 2:41:25am - Outgoing Call to Payphone - 13.8 seconds (1 Wi-fi location record White River Drive location; 4 GPS records near intersection of River Oaks Dr. and Black Creek; 3 cell site records)

2:32:57am - Outgoing Call to Payphone - 13.8 seconds

2:42:14am to 2:56:11am (Heather's phone is located to the rear of 5040 Carolina Forest Blvd. - Longbeard's Restaurant - North / North East corner of the parking lot where there are dumpsters. 14 minutes at location. Made 4 outgoing calls. 13 GPS records):

2:42:14am to 2:50:30am - Heather's phone was stationary

2:43:02am - Outgoing Call to Payphone - 7.2 seconds
2:43:36am - Outgoing Call to Payphone - 7.8 seconds
2:45:09am - Outgoing Call to Payphone - 0.2 seconds
2:51:20am - Outgoing Call to Payphone - 4.8 seconds

2:51:40am - movement at Longbeard's location
2:53:11am - movement at Longbeard's location

2:56:11am - stationary at Longbeard's location

2:57:04am to 3:01:57 (4 GPS; 1 cell site record)
No incoming or outgoing calls. Movement of Heather's phone from Longbeard's to a location on Augusta Plantation Drive and back to Longbeard's.

3:02:42am to 3:15:08am (Heather's phone is located back at Longbeard's. 15 GPS records)
3:04:36am - Outgoing Call to Payphone - 1.8 seconds
3:05:55am - Outgoing Call to Payphone - 9 seconds

3:16:22am to 3:19:23am (Heather's phone moved from Longbeard's to Heather's Apartment)
3:16:22am - Outgoing Call to SM's Phone - 7.8 seconds
3:17:35am - Outgoing Call to SM's Phone - 249 seconds (4 minutes and 9 seconds)

3:20:23am to 3:24:23am - 5 GPS records
Continuation of call from 03:17:35am until 3:21:44am (Heather's phone was located in the parking lot at her Apartment.)

3:25:29am to 3:35:12am (Heather's phone moved from White River Dr. (Apartment) to Peachtree Rd. to PTL. No call activity. 8 GPS, 3 cell site records.)

3:37:32am (Heather's phone was located at PTL. 1 GPS record.)
3:38:14am - Outgoing Call to SM's Phone - 1.8 seconds
3:39:00am - Outgoing Call to SM's Phone - 1.8 seconds
3:39:46am - Outgoing Call to SM's Phone - 1.8 seconds
3:41:05am - Outgoing Call to SM's Phone - 1.8 seconds

3:42:27am - No further incoming or outgoing calls from Heather's phone. No further location coordinates obtained.

 

[TTF14]

Can someone refresh my memory.....did the Moorers get new phones/phone numbers at some point after the HE/SM break-up and before the kidnapping and murder?

 

[LanieCoz]

Do we know the exact time of the pregnancy test purchase? Would it be feasible for him to have purchased it, they met at LB, he gives it to her, she goes back home to take test and then back out to meet him?? It's just strange that we now have this info of his phone being located there. It makes me think perhaps they did have a quick meet up, because after her trip there she starts to call SM's phone as though she now knows he is in possession of it?

 

[Surfside]

So Heather's phone arrived for a second time at Longbeard's at the exact time SM's phone was turned on after being off all that time. Well, that's a little too coincidental to believe it's a coincidence.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Do we know the exact time of the pregnancy test purchase? Would it be feasible for him to have purchased it, they met at LB, he gives it to her, she goes back home to take test and then back out to meet him?? It's just strange that we now have this info of his phone being located there. It makes me think perhaps they did have a quick meet up, because after her trip there she starts to call SM's phone as though she now knows he is in possession of it?

The Seaboard Street Wal-Mart is where Moorer can be seen parking his truck in a handicap space and entering the store about 1:12 a.m. on Dec. 18, 2013. He then selected a test and purchased it, along with a cigar, at 1:19 a.m., according to a time-stamped receipt.

http://www.thestate.com/news/state/south-carolina/article85207877.html

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The incoming call from SM at the payphone comes in at 1:35:16am

 

[TTF14]

Do we know the exact time of the pregnancy test purchase? Would it be feasible for him to have purchased it, they met at LB, he gives it to her, she goes back home to take test and then back out to meet him?? It's just strange that we now have this info of his phone being located there. It makes me think perhaps they did have a quick meet up, because after her trip there she starts to call SM's phone as though she now knows he is in possession of it?

Definitely a great theory! LB was closed so she wouldn't have used a restroom inside. It fits.

 

[PeterThomasFan]

Can someone refresh my memory.....did the Moorers get new phones/phone numbers at some point after the HE/SM break-up and before the kidnapping and murder?

Cannot verify, but I would think.

I also thinks they may have gotten a burner phone or two that would never be found, IMOO. :moo:

 

[Surfside]

Do we know the exact time of the pregnancy test purchase? Would it be feasible for him to have purchased it, they met at LB, he gives it to her, she goes back home to take test and then back out to meet him?? It's just strange that we now have this info of his phone being located there. It makes me think perhaps they did have a quick meet up, because after her trip there she starts to call SM's phone as though she now knows he is in possession of it?

When Heather's phone left LB's, it was headed in the direction of her apartment. It didn't make it all the way there, before it turned around at the entrance of a neighborhood and went back to LB's.

 

[LanieCoz]

Thank you!! So he had purchased it by that point. Makes me wonder...

 

[Surfside]

T-Mobile expert on the stand now.

 

[JerseyGirl]

From the trial (about those text messages). I'm not sure when these texts were sent:

Will Lynch, a North Myrtle Beach police officer who was an officer with the 15th Circuit Drug Enforcement Unit when he worked on Elvis’ case, testified he assembled a report of text messages exchanged by Elvis and Moorer.

Messages between them indicated a relationship between Heather Elvis and Sidney Moorer, along with a fear of Tammy Moorer, Sidney’s wife.

At one point, Elvis asked when Moorer would have his phone back and the sender replied, identifying himself as Moorer. The message also stated he didn’t want to talk to her anymore and that their involvement was a mistake.

A message from Elvis’ phone replied back: “You knew what you were doing. It was no mistake. I understand that this can’t go on anymore. I just want to know that your wife isn’t going to show up at my job.”

Another message that followed from Elvis’ cellphone said: “I lost hours today because they sent me home after she kept calling.”

Sidney Moorer’s cellphone replied that Tammy Moorer had a boyfriend and didn’t care about Elvis, but was mad at him for lying.

The exchange went on and some of the messages were deleted from the phone, but were recovered from a computer belonging to Sidney Moorer.

Some recovered messages said: “I’ve been having Sidney followed since January 2012.” Another message stated: “I’ll give you one last chance to answer me before we meet in person. Only one,” according to Perry’s report.

http://www.thestate.com/news/state/south-carolina/article85207877.html

 

[lstiff]

So Heather's phone arrived for a second time at Longbeard's at the exact time SM's phone was turned on after being off all that time. Well, that's a little too coincidental to believe it's a coincidence.

Exactly my thoughts too.

 

[PeterThomasFan]

So Heather's phone arrived for a second time at Longbeard's at the exact time SM's phone was turned on after being off all that time. Well, that's a little too coincidental to believe it's a coincidence.

There is no such thing as a coincidence.
— Det. Joe Kenda Ret.

Gordon: You're a detective now. You're not allowed to believe in coincidences.
— The Dark Knight Rises

"Giles, there are two things that I don't believe in: coincidence and leprechauns."
— Buffy the Vampire Slayer :facepalm:

 

[TTF14]

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[Surfside]

There is no such thing as a coincidence.
— Det. Joe Kenda Ret.

Gordon: You're a detective now. You're not allowed to believe in coincidences.
— The Dark Knight Rises

"Giles, there are two things that I don't believe in: coincidence and leprechauns."
— Buffy the Vampire Slayer :facepalm:

Rule #39: There is no such thing as coincidence.
--- NCIS Special Agent Leroy Jethro Gibbs :facepalm:

 

[Surfside]

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