GUILTY - Tammy Moorer trial for Kidnapping Heather Elvis, 8 Oct 2018 #1

[Gardenista]

Question you guys:

“ick Papantonis WPDE‏Verified account
Melson said on November 2, 2013, Sidney's phone and Tammy's phones stopped communicating. S continued to contact H here and there until a few days later, then that stopped too.”

So 11/2 Sidney and Tammy had zero interactions for a couple days? either I forgot a lot over the last few years or I never knew this...was SM contemplating leaving Tammy? Or was she mad at him and they weren’t communicating?

She probably had him chained up in the house so no need for phones

 

[bestill]

Gleaned from the testimony that they were together the early morning that Heather disappeared, had to be, no way TM would have allowed SM to have both phones.

 

[Gardenista]

I think that's the day TM found out about the affair. I don't remember when she took his phone though, because these records show he was communicating with HE.

I thought it was Halloween night.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Here is Heather's phone activity from SM's trial:

December 2013- Heather's phone
Total Calls - 1000
Calls to SM - 6
Call from SM - 0
Total of 6 out of 1000

843-444-***2 (Payphone)
843-385-***5 (SM's Phone)
609-415-***8 (Bri's Phone)

1:13:10am to 2:31:24am (Heather's Apartment) 77 location records (37 GPS; 40 Wi-fi)
1:35:16am - Incoming Call from Payphone - 298.8 seconds (5 minutes)
1:44:39am - Outgoing Call to Bri - 132 seconds (2 minute and 12 seconds)
2:29:48am - Outgoing Call to Payphone - 12 seconds
2:30:15am - Outgoing Call to Payphone - 4.8 seconds

2:32:57am to 2:41:25am - Outgoing Call to Payphone - 13.8 seconds (1 Wi-fi location record White River Drive location; 4 GPS records near intersection of River Oaks Dr. and Black Creek; 3 cell site records)

2:32:57am - Outgoing Call to Payphone - 13.8 seconds

2:42:14am to 2:56:11am (Heather's phone is located to the rear of 5040 Carolina Forest Blvd. - Longbeard's Restaurant - North / North East corner of the parking lot where there are dumpsters. 14 minutes at location. Made 4 outgoing calls. 13 GPS records):

2:42:14am to 2:50:30am - Heather's phone was stationary

2:43:02am - Outgoing Call to Payphone - 7.2 seconds
2:43:36am - Outgoing Call to Payphone - 7.8 seconds
2:45:09am - Outgoing Call to Payphone - 0.2 seconds
2:51:20am - Outgoing Call to Payphone - 4.8 seconds

2:51:40am - movement at Longbeard's location
2:53:11am - movement at Longbeard's location

2:56:11am - stationary at Longbeard's location

2:57:04am to 3:01:57 (4 GPS; 1 cell site record)
No incoming or outgoing calls. Movement of Heather's phone from Longbeard's to a location on Augusta Plantation Drive and back to Longbeard's.

3:02:42am to 3:15:08am (Heather's phone is located back at Longbeard's. 15 GPS records)
3:04:36am - Outgoing Call to Payphone - 1.8 seconds
3:05:55am - Outgoing Call to Payphone - 9 seconds

3:16:22am to 3:19:23am (Heather's phone moved from Longbeard's to Heather's Apartment)
3:16:22am - Outgoing Call to SM's Phone - 7.8 seconds
3:17:35am - Outgoing Call to SM's Phone - 249 seconds (4 minutes and 9 seconds)

3:20:23am to 3:24:23am - 5 GPS records
Continuation of call from 03:17:35am until 3:21:44am (Heather's phone was located in the parking lot at her Apartment.)

3:25:29am to 3:35:12am (Heather's phone moved from White River Dr. (Apartment) to Peachtree Rd. to PTL. No call activity. 8 GPS, 3 cell site records.)

3:37:32am (Heather's phone was located at PTL. 1 GPS record.)
3:38:14am - Outgoing Call to SM's Phone - 1.8 seconds
3:39:00am - Outgoing Call to SM's Phone - 1.8 seconds
3:39:46am - Outgoing Call to SM's Phone - 1.8 seconds
3:41:05am - Outgoing Call to SM's Phone - 1.8 seconds

3:42:27am - No further incoming or outgoing calls from Heather's phone. No further location coordinates obtained.

 

[razzledazzle]

I am too but they won't go loud enough to drown her out, and apparently she does not seem to get the clue not to bother me because she keeps talking to me.

You are too nice. Give her the "B%^th please" look, and if she speaks again, reply with "huh" without looking at her - every time she opens her mouth.

 

[JerseyGirl]

SM's iPhone:

Location Settings for Photographs:
11/5 to 11/11 - in Horry County
11/23 - west of new mexico
11/29 - thousand oaks
11/29 to 12/06 - anaheim
12/06 el paso
12/07 tennessee
12/10,11 atlanta
after 12/11/2013, there is no geolocation data available (I assume this means location services for photos is turned off, was not specified during trial testimony)

Call Log:
Time is in UTC- subtract 5 hours
Please note,
phone is used between 1:09 AM EST and 1:13 AM EST, so it was on at this point.
Phone is then powered on around 3:02 AM EST,
powering off is not recorded, only power on
when off, no location data is available.

Outgoing
12/18/2013 06:09:45 AM UTC to 18625962011
12/18/2013 06:13:49 AM UTC to 18625962011
12/18/2013 06:13:55 AM UTC to 18625962011

12/18/2013 after 1:13 AM EST - phone powered off
12/18/2013 ~3:02 AM EST - phone powered on


Incoming
12/18/2013 08:17:04 AM UTC from:
12/18/2013 08:17:15 AM UTC voicemail (12/18 voice message,no audio, no number showed up per trial testimony)
12/18/2013 08:17:48 AM UTC from:

12/18/2013 08:38:45 AM UTC from: 8439978152
12/18/2013 08:39:31 AM UTC from: 8439978152
12/18/2013 08:40:17 AM UTC from: 8439978152
12/18/2013 08:41:34 AM UTC from: 8439978152


Data pulled from F150 sync module:

11/8/2013 - purchase of truck recorded
11/22/2013 - Shawnee, OK
11/25/2013 - Las Vegas
1/16/2014 - Kissimmee, Florida

No coordinates for MB.
Would have expected to find data in Horry County

Timelines *No Discussion Thread* - from nerdgirl, post: 12677273

 

[JerseyGirl]

Heather moved in with Bri on December 4th (according to a timeline in the Timelines thread:

November 19, 2013
The M family left on a cross-country driving trip to Disneyland in California

Wednesday, December 4, 2013
Heather moves into a new apartment w/ BW @ 541 Whiteriver Drive, Myrtle Beach, SC (@ River Oaks Golf Plantation)

December 6, 2013
Heather posts on Facebook that she is "in a relationship".

Wednesday, December 11, 2013
The M family returned home from their trip to California

Friday, December 13, 2013
Heather's last Facebook post

 

[razzledazzle]

JMO... I feel like if these two had been tried together the first time, they would have both gone down quickly.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Good thing we are on lunch break. I am following Hurricane Michael on Twitter (along with this case) and just saw that Horry County is closing schools tomorrow because of the storm.

I wouldn't be surprised if the county/state offices (and this court) follows suit.




HCS will close schools and offices on Thursday, October 11, 2018, for all students and employees in anticipation of high winds and strong gusts, including the threat of tornadic activity. Please visit our website for more information. http://www.horrycountyschools.net/

 

[TTF14]

Good thing we are on lunch break. I am following Hurricane Michael on Twitter (along with this case) and just saw that Horry County is closing schools tomorrow because of the storm.

I wouldn't be surprised if the county/state offices (and this court) follows suit.




HCS will close schools and offices on Thursday, October 11, 2018, for all students and employees in anticipation of high winds and strong gusts, including the threat of tornadic activity. Please visit our website for more information. http://www.horrycountyschools.net/

This is a major "suck" for the jurors who aren't allowed to watch the news!

 

[JerseyGirl]

This is a major "suck" for the jurors who aren't allowed to watch the news!

I know. This might be difficult! I hope they call Sidney this afternoon, otherwise he'll still be sitting in Horry Correctional until Friday at least. Can TM visit him there I wonder?

 

[MtnMom]

Here is Heather's phone activity from SM's trial:




2:51:40am - movement at Longbeard's location
2:53:11am - movement at Longbeard's location

2:56:11am - stationary at Longbeard's location

2:57:04am to 3:01:57 (4 GPS; 1 cell site record)
No incoming or outgoing calls. Movement of Heather's phone from Longbeard's to a location on Augusta Plantation Drive and back to Longbeard's.

Sorry if this has already been discussed...but were the woods near Augusta Plantation drive searched?
Edited to fix the quote

 

[UndiscoveredTruth]

Good morning/afternoon, everyone! Sorry I'm late. (My alarm failed to go off for some stupid reason, ugh). Thanks for all the updates/tweets/articles/comments thus far on DAY 2. Hope I haven't missed too much!!!

 

[Dylgem22]

I noticed the Mrs. doesn't have a wedding ring on today .. did she typically wear one?

 

[Madeleine74]

3:02:42am to 3:15:08am (Heather's phone is located back at Longbeard's. 15 GPS records)
3:04:36am - Outgoing Call to Payphone - 1.8 seconds
3:05:55am - Outgoing Call to Payphone - 9 seconds


Those phone calls around 3am 12/18 to the payphone indicate to me that H.E. was still alive and still had her phone. Syd wouldn't be calling the payphone. H.E. had no idea that's where Syd was (a payphone) when he first called her.

 

[lstiff]

So just brainstorming here, if the testimony we heard yesterday about the "prank" that the TK girls told HE that TM learned of the affair and was coming for her was the end of Oct then the affair ended the beginning of Nov, does that mean she really did learn of the affair? Anyone know how or when she found out? I don't remember or never knew how that happened. Remember the text with the kids about dad not having that phone anymore, is that in this time frame too?

Sorry for so many questions but I'm trying to get this timeline together with the new information we know and I'm kinda lost.

IMO

 

[UndiscoveredTruth]

I noticed the Mrs. doesn't have a wedding ring on today .. did she typically wear one?

Another member noticed that yesterday too. I've never taken much notice whether she typically wore one or not lol. Would take a special kind of stupid person *cough*cough* to put a ring on that hand anyway!!! MOO

 

[JerseyGirl]

 

[UndiscoveredTruth]

We're back!!!

 

[panacea]

Wow, TMs lawyer is such a slimeball. Way to smack him down, Nancy.