Gym Calls Police On Weightlifter Who 'Grunted'

[CyberLaw]

This rule does not "contravene" any human rights. It does not say: Men are not allowed to grunt. It just says: No grunting, it applies to all, equally.

What happens if your Boss asks about if you intend to get married, and or have kids. Guess what, that would be sexual harassment, as it is no consequence to your job performance. Nor would that question be asked of any man.

I would find it demeaning if a "person" in authority "comments" on my looks rather then my intelligence and job performance.

Rules are the basis of society. Laws, school rules, city rules, rules of conduct etc. It is the expectation of how one will conduct themselves in society.

They are in place so "everyone" cannot do what ever they please to whomever they please, when ever they please. There are consequences for breaking the rules. If you don't like the rule, break the rule, then be prepared to "expect consequences".

This is how children are raised to be respectful and law abiding citizens.

Rules that discriminate based on human rights ground have recourse. No rules should be inacted to treat others differently from anyone else.

All this man had to do: Was "not seek power and control" over the staff of the gym, not exert his "perceived" authority over the staff, abide by the "rules" in place for everyone who uses this gym, not expect that "since" he did not agree with the rules, he is free to break them to the detriment of the other people who use the gym. All he had to do was just "be a normal" civil person".

But his choice, was to start a fight, refuse to abide by the rules, and then the Police were called. There is a right way and a wrong way to handle a situation, he choose the wrong way and had "consequences" to his conduct.

This man is just so special, so entitled, that he feels he is above the rules that apply to every ohter "paying" member of the gym.

Well he learned that he is not. I very much doubt that they want him back anyways.

Just the simple fact that women do not get paid at the same rate for the same job as men, is just fine with some women. Guess what it is not fine with me.

Watch the movie North Country, and you will see the effects of harassment and sexual harassment which in essence is power and control of men over women and tell me if you think "sexual harassment" is just fine.

 

[2sisters]

Am I the only woman in this sue-happy, lawsuit-loving day and age that isn't offended when a man says "You look pretty today."????? I totally disagree that a man telling me that I look pretty is about sex!!! That is so hilarious to me.

Now, if a man said to me "Nice ass, I'd love to grab me some of that...", THAT is sexual, and although it wouldn't OFFEND me, it would piss me off and I'd have no problem speaking up and telling him so.

If a man tells me I am pretty, and says so in a respectable way, I take that as a compliment. Some people, mainly women, don't take compliments well, but that doesn't mean that a compliment then should be turned into something it isn't.

In defense of all men, the day all compliments to women turn into sexual harrassment is a sad day in the world!

As far as "rules are rules" and the need to respect them, I say there have many rules that have been changed and overturned because they were later deemed to be ridiculous, unecessary and discriminatory. That applies to public AND private businesses. Just because something is labeled a "rule", it doesn't automatically earn my agreeance, acceptance and me blindly following it because someone else says I have to.

I am not offeneded at all . I wish someone, anyone would call me pretty! I am not a man, but Julianne, you are pretty today!

 

[2sisters]

This rule does not "contravene" any human rights. It does not say: Men are not allowed to grunt. It just says: No grunting, it applies to all, equally.

What happens if your Boss asks about if you intend to get married, and or have kids. Guess what, that would be sexual harassment, as it is no consequence to your job performance. Nor would that question be asked of any man.

I would find it demeaning if a "person" in authority "comments" on my looks rather then my intelligence and job performance.

Rules are the basis of society. Laws, school rules, city rules, rules of conduct etc. It is the expectation of how one will conduct themselves in society.

They are in place so "everyone" cannot do what ever they please to whomever they please, when ever they please. There are consequences for breaking the rules. If you don't like the rule, break the rule, then be prepared to "expect consequences".

This is how children are raised to be respectful and law abiding citizens.

Rules that discriminate based on human rights ground have recourse. No rules should be inacted to treat others differently from anyone else.

All this man had to do: Was "not seek power and control" over the staff of the gym, not exert his "perceived" authority over the staff, abide by the "rules" in place for everyone who uses this gym, not expect that "since" he did not agree with the rules, he is free to break them to the detriment of the other people who use the gym. All he had to do was just "be a normal" civil person".

But his choice, was to start a fight, refuse to abide by the rules, and then the Police were called. There is a right way and a wrong way to handle a situation, he choose the wrong way and had "consequences" to his conduct.

This man is just so special, so entitled, that he feels he is above the rules that apply to every ohter "paying" member of the gym.

Well he learned that he is not. I very much doubt that they want him back anyways.

Just the simple fact that women do not get paid at the same rate for the same job as men, is just fine with some women. Guess what it is not fine with me.

Watch the movie North Country, and you will see the effects of harassment and sexual harassment which in essence is power and control of men over women and tell me if you think "sexual harassment" is just fine.

I do not recall anyone saying sexual harrasment was fine. What is worng with a boss asking if you intend to have a family? Or someone saying you are pretty? Someone can complement on your brains too. No wonder people are so rude and nasty to one another, you can't complement them without being deemed a pervert.

 

[Karole28]

Just the simple fact that women do not get paid at the same rate for the same job as men, is just fine with some women.

Sorry to butt in here. But, this is a fallacy.

Thank you, that is all.

 

[JBean]

I have not read ths whole thread, but for those of you that are not weight lifters, grunting is silliness among weight lifters. It is a sign of an amateur or someone who wants attention or it is a sign of showing off."Look a Me" mentaility.
Typically , grunters are those that don't really know what they are doing, or they want the whole gym to look at the amount of weight they are lifting.

Generally speaking,it is completely unecessary and controllable. There are times when it just happens, but so does passing gas when you lift heavy weight. However, most people manage to keep it in. It's a lot about focus, concentration,control and how you expend your energy. Noy about drawing attention to yourself.
I was always taught it's a no no to grunt. I was trained by a professional power lifter for 10 years and he made this pretty clear. no grunting! I was surprised how easy it was and i lifted heavy back in the day, very heavy.
I have been lifting for many years, but didn't know there were places with a no grunting rule. I love it. it is extremely annoying and this rule would attract me to that gym. It's like wiping your sweat off the bench when you are done...good rule.
So tip for you newbies at weightlifting. Don't grunt and people will think you are a pro.:angel:

 

[txsvicki]

It seems obvious that this gym doesn't allow grunting. It is also obvious that the person wasn't escorted out for "grunting", but because he was arguing with the manager. The police were probably called in because the grunter became unruly after being asked to stop grunting. I suppose we should allow people to bully those who enforce the rules? The headline of the story is misleading which doesn't suprise me...
This has nothing to do with sexual noises or equal rights...it's about enforcing the rules that the whole gym is based on.

http://www.planetfitness.com/wappingersfalls/?s=1042&c=10059&x=0

Planet Fitness® strives to promote health in a respectful atmosphere. For over a decade, Planet Fitness® has gone to great lengths to provide its members with a friendly space to work out. We call it the Judgment Free Zone. We discourage weight dropping and obnoxious grunting so you can focus on your own workout and not the person next to you.

It sounds like this place which hasn't even been in business very long just wants people to work out and don't really want dedicated weight lifters. The gym I used to go to didn't even have weight lifting close to other people who can't do all that heavy lifting. I wouldn't want to hear weights dropping but would also never join a goofy sounding place that worded their advertisement this way. Judgement free zone sounds silly and prissy.

 

[JBean]

It sounds like this place which hasn't even been in business very long just wants people to work out and don't really want dedicated weight lifters. The gym I used to go to didn't even have weight lifting close to other people who can't do all that heavy lifting. I wouldn't want to hear weights dropping but would also never join a goofy sounding place that worded their advertisement this way. Judgement free zone sounds silly and prissy.

What makes you think they don't want dedicated weightlifters? Doesn't sound that way to me.
I must say I do like a gym that feels like a "gym". I only use the free weight room, and I would love a no grunting rule.

 

[Jeana (DP)]

I have not read ths whole thread, but for those of you that are not weight lifters, grunting is silliness among weight lifters. It is a sign of an amateur or someone who wants attention or it is a sign of showing off."Look a Me" mentaility.
Typically , grunters are those that don't really know what they are doing, or they want the whole gym to look at the amount of weight they are lifting.

Generally speaking,it is completely unecessary and controllable. There are times when it just happens, but so does passing gas when you lift heavy weight. However, most people manage to keep it in. It's a lot about focus, concentration,control and how you expend your energy. Noy about drawing attention to yourself.
I was always taught it's a no no to grunt. I was trained by a professional power lifter for 10 years and he made this pretty clear. no grunting! I was surprised how easy it was and i lifted heavy back in the day, very heavy.
I have been lifting for many years, but didn't know there were places with a no grunting rule. I love it. it is extremely annoying and this rule would attract me to that gym. It's like wiping your sweat off the bench when you are done...good rule.
So tip for you newbies at weightlifting. Don't grunt and people will think you are a pro.:angel:

The "pros" where you are must be in the lightweight class. The guys we've got lifting around here are big time lifters. When they're pushing upwards of 1200-1500 at times, they can't be expected to do so silently. Thankfully, they're not surrounded by a bunch of poofers, so they can grunt whenever they feel the need.

 

[reportertype]

Wow. if I found grunting offensive, I could no longer watch women's tennis. They have some serious grunting going on. I've been to plenty of gyms; I go to work out. I don't wear makeup or matching clothes or any of that crap. And I pay no attention to grunting or weight dropping or anything. It's just part of the background noise. People who are so easily offended by noises should probably stay home and avoid public places.

 

[nanandjim]

Wow. if I found grunting offensive, I could no longer watch women's tennis. They have some serious grunting going on. I've been to plenty of gyms; I go to work out. I don't wear makeup or matching clothes or any of that crap. And I pay no attention to grunting or weight dropping or anything. It's just part of the background noise. People who are so easily offended by noises should probably stay home and avoid public places.

I totally agree. However, I do find it annoying when the guys intentionally drop the heavy weights on the floor or let them slam really hard after they have finished a set on a piece of equipment. This is the only part that I find to be showboating.

The grunting/breathing heavily is natural when you lift weights or exert any type of extra energy. As I posted way ago, I even make noise when lifting fairly light weights. It does help. I always "exhale on effort." Sometimes, it is just a little louder than other times. :blushing:

 

[julianne]

Wow. if I found grunting offensive, I could no longer watch women's tennis. They have some serious grunting going on. I've been to plenty of gyms; I go to work out. I don't wear makeup or matching clothes or any of that crap. And I pay no attention to grunting or weight dropping or anything. It's just part of the background noise. People who are so easily offended by noises should probably stay home and avoid public places.

My thoughts exactly. The people who are "offended" by someone making a grunting noise while lifting weights in a gym would probably be offended by someone sneezing or coughing in a doctors office waiting room.

There are enough LEGITIMATE things to be "offended" by going on in the world today....people certainly don't need to add such trivial and inconsequential things to that.

 

[JBean]

The "pros" where you are must be in the lightweight class. The guys we've got lifting around here are big time lifters. When they're pushing upwards of 1200-1500 at times, they can't be expected to do so silently. Thankfully, they're not surrounded by a bunch of poofers, so they can grunt whenever they feel the need.

No they are not lightweights. they are the real deal. No one expects them to be silent..but they don't grunt with every move. Grunting if they feel the need is cool, but I bet they don't grunt with every lift.

All I mean is in our local gyms when you hear people grunting away when they are not lifting weight of any significance, they want to be noticed and are not very well trained. I don't mean to offend anyone, but I do understand what this gym is aiming for with the no grunt rule.

 

[GlitchWizard]

Sorry to butt in here. But, this is a fallacy.

Thank you, that is all.

Actually, it doesn't bother me to be paid less than a man in my same field. But then again - I chose this job. If I wanted to be paid more, I'd get a different job. You create your own paycheck by your level of education and the jobs you choose to apply for at the places that will pay you what you want to be paid. If you want paid the same as the next guy - there are places you can work to do so.

I guess I roll with life, and don't sweat it.