HaLeigh Cummings Missing Case Theories - Structured Analysis

  • #21
Nice job Elle,

The only thing I would see different is Misty wouldn't be home. This gives Joe and Hank Jr. time to look for the gun, maybe look for anything else of value, time to see Haleigh up and talk to her, change her cloths, and decide what they want to do about it. Robbing a gun and jumping to kidnapping and murder are a huge leap. Hank also knew her, better than Joe. I think it would be easier for Joe to do a bad thing to her than Hank, but if we believe Misty, they both liked little girls.

Good theory and it could have happened that way. Thanks again and it is a lot of work. :blowkiss:


For sure Bern...if indeed Misty was away, even for a brief time(considering Ronald was asked to work the three additional hours after reporting to work that evening) these two ...well...I will leave out the name-calling would have had time to do as they wished to Haleigh. However, because of the lack of or possibly withheld physical evidence in the MH, I always thought that there would be an additional crime scene in the van(or elsewhere). Until LE solves this case we will have to theorize only about evidence collected and possible DNA
 
  • #22
Tommy now saying he was at the MH between 9:30 - 9:45 was a huge risk on his part. It places him at the MH, and just about saying Misty wasn't home. So can go against him or against Misty, depending on how you want to look at it. He took a big chance.
 
  • #23
Breaking and entering, burglary of a weapon........felony charges.

Kidnapping, murder (in the committing of a felony, as above)....capital charges. Add to that a rape charge, these goons would know they're looking at sure death.

They'd have to be cocky sure they're never going to get caught stealing the gun (which, by the way, didn't Ronald say he still retained?) and kidnapping Haleigh because she caught them. Why leave without the object you came for and taking something that was going to be quantum leap sized more complicated?
 
  • #24
Breaking and entering, burglary of a weapon........felony charges.

Kidnapping, murder (in the committing of a felony, as above)....capital charges. Add to that a rape charge, these goons would know they're looking at sure death.

They'd have to be cocky sure they're never going to get caught stealing the gun (which, by the way, didn't Ronald say he still retained?) and kidnapping Haleigh because she caught them. Why leave without the object you came for and taking something that was going to be quantum leap sized more complicated?

If Haleigh woke before the gun was found by Joe, quick action would need to be taken. Or, if Misty was out of the home as others have supposed, Upon seeing a 5 year old child dressed only in a t-shirt might have evoked a different need in one of the men. Disgusting but possible.

ETA...sure ....death for sure, but a more acceptable form of death if Law Enforcement built a case against them before Ronald Cummings did.
 
  • #25
Then two of them would have to support raping a child, because one taking her for a fulfillment of a sudden need to rape her is done in the eyes of the other. In order for that to make sense, both would then need to be responsible for the rape, as well. One would not go along to commit a felony and be drawn into a capital offense based on the other's perversions. In fact, one could imagine that an incredible discussion with heated voices would ensue about the taking of a child rather than a gun for the purposes of a capital offense.
 
  • #26
Then two of them would have to support raping a child, because one taking her for a fulfillment of a sudden need to rape her is done in the eyes of the other. In order for that to make sense, both would then need to be responsible for the rape, as well. One would not go along to commit a felony and be drawn into a capital offense based on the other's perversions. In fact, one could imagine that an incredible discussion with heated voices would ensue about the taking of a child rather than a gun for the purposes of a capital offense.


lol..Cousin Joe didn't seem too worried about charges of capital offense weeks earlier when he initially stole the gun from Ronald. Nor did Hank jr seem to care very much about what charges he might face for stealing a gun when he took the 85 year old man weapon recently.

Also, we have members from Joe's own family admitting that he took the gun and stored it in a culvert on their property. Why would they supply that information to authorities unless they felt that it was needed to possibly divert attention away from Hank jr placing himself at the scene of Haleigh's disappearance?

ETA sorry forgot to address the necessary agreement of raping a child, I didn't mention raping a child in my initial theory. The thought sickens and disgusts me, however, prior allegations against both of these two men have been made public. Whether or not those allegations are true have yet to be proven.
 
  • #27
lol..Cousin Joe didn't seem too worried about charges of capital offense weeks earlier when he initially stole the gun from Ronald. Nor did Hank jr seem to care very much about what charges he might face for stealing a gun when he took the 85 year old man weapon recently.

Also, we have members from Joe's own family admitting that he took the gun and stored it in a culvert on their property. Why would they supply that information to authorities unless they felt that it was needed to possibly divert attention away from Hank jr placing himself at the scene of Haleigh's disappearance?

ETA sorry forgot to address the necessary agreement of raping a child, I didn't mention raping a child in my initial theory. The thought sickens and disgusts me, however, prior allegations against both of these two men have been made public. Whether or not those allegations are true have yet to be proven.

Stealing a gun is a felony. However, Ronald Cummings was directing Misty, OVER THE PHONE, to check the culvert and "what do you know, there it was!" (Misty's quote). She was amazed at Ron's ability to know such a thing.

Hank puts himself there, and I have stated many times I believe he is the initial witness who gave LE information that Misty was perhaps not at home the night of Feb 9th. We just learned about it many months later.

I just do not see the likelihood of two men, cousins though they may be, going in on a B&E to steal a gun, and coming out with a 5 year old for rape and murder. There are plenty of other ways to make it seem like the 5 year old was confused "No, Ron....dude, we were in the house earlier that day with Misty." That has actually already been established.
 
  • #28
Stealing a gun is a felony. However, Ronald Cummings was directing Misty, OVER THE PHONE, to check the culvert and "what do you know, there it was!" (Misty's quote). She was amazed at Ron's ability to know such a thing.

Hank puts himself there, and I have stated many times I believe he is the initial witness who gave LE information that Misty was perhaps not at home the night of Feb 9th. We just learned about it many months later.

I just do not see the likelihood of two men, cousins though they may be, going in on a B&E to steal a gun, and coming out with a 5 year old for rape and murder. There are plenty of other ways to make it seem like the 5 year old was confused "No, Ron....dude, we were in the house earlier that day with Misty." That has actually already been established.

I would believe my 5 year old child before I would believe either of the two men I have posted a theory about. Maybe Ronald would have as well. If you read my theory in whole you would have noted that I based my theory on certain facts and presented it in the manner that was asked of me. I do not agree with your belief that law Enforcement had the prior knowledge from Hankjr about going over and knocking on the door at 202 Green Lane. If I believed that was true I would not have built a theory based on those specific things.

Regardless of whether or not you agree with a theory that I posted matters not to me. I do not believe that Ronald is responsible for Haleigh's disappearance, nor do I believe that Crystal is responsible either. Since this case is still under investigation I think it is safe to assume that there are many logical theories that it might be interesting to examine. I have posted just one detailed theory on this thread and if you have an alternate theory that you have come to based on what you believe to have occurred on the night Haleigh went missing, perhaps you would be willing to put it out there for all to scrutinize as I have done.

As Cyberborg so gracefully laid it out for us in the first post on this thread:snip~
This is a thread intended to take a more structured approach to HaLeigh Cummings Missing Case theories.

This idea originated from some excellent sleuthing work performed by our WS poster, Bern.

We request that posters first post a 'complete' theory per the following example from Bern rather than some loose ideas. A complete theory should be posted and then we can discuss and debate how well its fits into what we know and any holes to dissect and maybe reach a conclusion.

As we collect a few complete theories we can begin to compare them and validate them as developments break in the case.

Please post random thoughts and ideas to the existing Theories discussion: What could have happened to Haleigh?

Thank you.~ end snip
 
  • #29
Good job, Elle! It is gruesome but it might have happened like that if the guys are gruesome people.

Have you given any thought about why Ron denied the gun story?
Also, why is Misty inconsistent about her own timeline and keeps failing LDT's? It's not because she wants to protect either Tommy or Joe because she's pointed fingers at both of them. Why didn't she just fess up to whatever she was up to? it can hardly be worse than being a person of interest in a missing child case, and a good attorney might have negotiated immunity or something.
 
  • #30
elle1919 - your theory is spot on as far as I am concerned. Tommy places himself at the MH at about the same time that MC is going to sleep. He stated that the house was dark and no one answered the door. He and Jo would think no one was home and would turn on lights to search for the gun. Haleigh surprised them and they panicked, took her and drove off erratically in the blue van, scraping it. Jo was in his clothes bed? Why? Hiding scratches from brush?

Good thought process here, elle. Thanks.
 
  • #31
Good job, Elle! It is gruesome but it might have happened like that if the guys are gruesome people.

Have you given any thought about why Ron denied the gun story?
Also, why is Misty inconsistent about her own timeline and keeps failing LDT's? It's not because she wants to protect either Tommy or Joe because she's pointed fingers at both of them. Why didn't she just fess up to whatever she was up to? it can hardly be worse than being a person of interest in a missing child case, and a good attorney might have negotiated immunity or something.


I think that if Ronald DID deny the gun story publicly, he may have been truthful with detectives. However, publicly denying the story would prove useful in making the perpetrator feel comfortable that they are not suspected.

Donjeta while there is no proof that Misty failed the LDT performed early on by LE, I do feel that there is plenty of suspicion that Misty is hiding something. I did quite a bit of reading up on the various tests that Misty took at the direction of Tim Miller and it is clear that the validity of those procedures have been argued and Law Enforcement themselves commented on the results of those tests only by stating that they further echoed their statement that Misty has been inconsistent.

Honestly, I truly do not know what to think at this point. Without information from Law Enforcement I can't jump on the Misty holds all the answers bandwagon. But I will say that I am far from buying a ticket on the "Misty and Ronald are guilty" Express. What is sad for me is that I am starting to believe that there is a chance that Misty might have left the children alone that night. Even if only for a very short time. And if there is even a shred of truth to her being negligent in her duties as Haleigh and JR's caretaker, well, it could mean a not so bright future for her and Ronald as well because it was his judgment that put her in his home. Of course it can be argued that he did use his best judgment and truly that is all any of us can due in our own unique circumstances.
 
  • #32
Maybe Jo didn't steal RC's gun, but rather Tommy who seems to have a penchant for other people's weapons. RC just thought it was JO.
 
  • #33
Maybe Jo didn't steal RC's gun, but rather Tommy who seems to have a penchant for other people's weapons. RC just thought it was JO.

very possible, I just have a bad feeling about Cousin Joe and I have since the beginning of this case. If he would have came back to Satsuma and been interviewed right away rather than leaving the very next day after Haleigh went missing, well then I might be less suspicious of the ...oops no name calling.

I also believe that while discussing the possibility of an abduction theory the names could be interchangeable and there is possibly more than one suspect that might have had the opportunity to act on February 9th.
 
  • #34
the following theory in the missing child case of Haleigh Cummings. Of course all thoughts are based on my personal opinions and deductions in the case and should not be mistaken for fact. While I have developed a theory based on as many facts as possible, there are multiple theories that might fit or various perpetrators that given the exact circumstances might be interchanged. For my theory, I will be exploring an abduction between the hours of 8 pm and 3 30 am with the perpetrator of the abduction being Cousin Joe who was visiting from Tennessee the week Haleigh went missing with possible help from Hank Croslin jr.

MOTIVE: Retaliation for fight over 9 mm Berretta that Cousin Joe allegedly stole from Ronald Cummings 2 weeks before Haleigh went missing. Initially I believe the plan may have been to make access into 202 Gr Lane on the night of February 9th and steal back the gun that had previously been recovered from Joe’s hiding spot in a culvert on Tommy and Lindsey Croslin’s property.I believe that Haleigh woke while the thieves were in the home and since she would have been able to identify Joe and Misty’s brother Hank jr (Tommy) she was taken.

~SNIP~
This is some good, logical thinking, elle! If drugs were involved, I think this scenario may become even more likely as the two men might have done things they otherwise would not have and/or not thought rationally. Suppose either:

a) Joe & Hank Jr had taken some drugs earlier and, knowing that Misty was not in the MH, they spontaneously decided to go look for Ron's gun without thinking through the possibility the kids could be in the MH.

b) Joe & Hank Jr found drugs in the MH and decided to take them and also to use some at that time, thinking that the kids were asleep. (And knowing that Misty was not there.) However, they made too much noise and woke up Haleigh.

ETA - I think it is is a likely possibility that Hank Jr had a key to the MH, which he had gotten (or copied) at some prior time from Misty. JMO

I also think that if Haleigh made a fuss and said she'd tell her Daddy, that they might have impulsively grabbed her and taken her with them. Then they would have panicked.
 
  • #35
This is some good, logical thinking, elle! If drugs were involved, I think this scenario may become even more likely as the two men might have done things they otherwise would not have. Suppose either:

a) Joe & Hank Jr had taken some drugs earlier and, knowing that Misty was not in the MH, they spontaneously decided to go look for Ron's gun without thinking through the possibility the kids could be in the MH.

b) Joe & Hank Jr found drugs in the MH and decided to take them and also to use some at that time, thinking that the kids were asleep. (And knowing that Misty was not there.) However, they made too much noise and woke up Haleigh.

ETA - I think it is is a likely possibility that Hank Jr had a key to the MH, which he had gotten (or copied) at some prior time from Misty. JMO

Truly Kamky, I believe that there are a number of things that played a part over the course of that evening. I feel I put some of my innermost thoughts about this case into the above theory. Bern was absolutely correct when she said that you catch yourself thinking or connecting other information in the midst of typing a theory out that way. It is easy to throw out a suspicion that perhaps there was an accident, or in my theory an abduction, but when you type it all out start to finish that way you realize that there are a lot of elements missing unless you think it through and develop your suspicion fully.

I look forward to reading other theories from posters here at WS. Thanks for reading one of mine.
 
  • #36
Good job, Elle! It is gruesome but it might have happened like that if the guys are gruesome people.

Have you given any thought about why Ron denied the gun story?
Also, why is Misty inconsistent about her own timeline and keeps failing LDT's? It's not because she wants to protect either Tommy or Joe because she's pointed fingers at both of them. Why didn't she just fess up to whatever she was up to? it can hardly be worse than being a person of interest in a missing child case, and a good attorney might have negotiated immunity or something.


Is it possible that Ron denied the gun story because the gun wasn't legally in his possession?

Maybe Misty has pointed fingers at both of them because she knew no one was letting up on her. Maybe she didn't know it was Tommy and Joe because she wasn't home. Maybe she waited to point the finger because she didn't want it outed that she wasn't home. I don't think she was ever up front with her own attorney either. That's why she didn't pass the LDT?
 
  • #37
Is it possible that Ron denied the gun story because the gun wasn't legally in his possession?

Maybe Misty has pointed fingers at both of them because she knew no one was letting up on her. Maybe she didn't know it was Tommy and Joe because she wasn't home. Maybe she waited to point the finger because she didn't want it outed that she wasn't home. I don't think she was ever up front with her own attorney either. That's why she didn't pass the LDT?

We probably don't know all the details about the missing gun incident, but hopefully LE does. Ron may have admitted that his gun was taken and then recovered in the ditch, but it may not have involved an actual physical "fight" between Ron and Cuz Joe.

If Misty wasn't at home, she may not have been sure that it was Joe and/or Tommy who had been at the MH, but she probably had her suspicions. After discussions with other family members and learning that the van may have been taken, that it was parked differently, etc., this probably solidified her suspicions.

If she knew Tommy had a MH key, then this may have caused her to suspect his involvement. Also, just because LE didn't learn until recently that Tommy said he went to the MH at 9:45 - 10 that night doesn't mean that he might not have told Misty this early on. I suspect that the fight with Tommy and the Ratgate incident started from Tommy telling Misty that he was at the MH & she wasn't there that evening. Misty, of course, would have told Ron that Tommy was lying and Ron would have believed Misty. This set the scene for the family fight with the Croslins, IMO.

Misty's dilemma was that she only had two choices:

1 - She could tell the truth about not being home and possibly help LE find Haleigh, but almost surely lose Ron. -OR-

2 - She could lie about being home and keep her marriage to Ron, but not help LE make any headway towards finding Haleigh.

Misty chose option 1.

Now since Ron initiated the divorce, there is a slim possibility that Misty may say something to somebody eventually that will confirm to LE that she was not in the MH that night. (Note: I think this is why LE has put so much focus on trying to find a witness that will confirm that Misty was elsewhere.) Since it is now known that Tommy was at the MH (if he is to be believed), this would enable LE to put more pressure on Tommy (and possibly Cuz Joe) to account for his/their actions that night.
 
  • #38
So to continue, IF there was a family/friend abduction of Haleigh, their Profile would be:

Someone who had been in the MH and:
- knew the layout of the rooms
- and knew where the beds were
- and knew the back screen door would slam unless propped.

Someone who Haleigh knew pretty well.

Someone who knew Ron worked at night on weekdays.

Someone who had access to a door key:
- knew where a copy was hidden or
- or had been able to make a copy of Misty's key
- or had been in the MH earlier that day and unlocked the door
- or had a helper who had been in the MH earlier and unlocked the door.

Someone who knew Misty was a heavy sleeper and would be exausted from the prior weekend or someone who came & did drugs with Misty that night to knock her out.

If we make a list of persons who fit this profile, that would be a list of potential candidates.

My initial list, based on this criteria was:

~ Every member of the Croslin family
~ Nay Nay Prevatt (based upon being with Misty the weekend before)
~ Amber Brooks (based upon being with Misty the weekend before)

(I excluded Ron, TN, & GGMA because I don't see them diverting Misty with drugs so they could steal Haleigh. I didn't even try to include anyone from the Sheffield/Griffis side only because I don't know enough about who might know who and who might have any familiarity with the MH. And, there are probably other friends of Misty & Ron who might fit this list but I don't know of them.)

BUT, my very first candidate, as I went through every point in the criteria was "Tommy", "Tommy", "Tommy", "Tommy"... His name just jumped out at me each time!

Instead, I expanded this to say "every member of the Croslin family" because I could also include other Croslins such as Lisa or Hank Sr. It is much less likely to have been someone like Lindsy or Chelsea or even Timmy. However, the main person who fit every citeria was definitely Tommy!

His behavior since Haleigh turned up missing has also suggested that he was somehow involved, IMO. Remember, Tommy was placed at the MH by Misty after Ron left for work. Tommy could have unlocked the back door at that time.
 
  • #39
the following theory in the missing child case of Haleigh Cummings. Of course all thoughts are based on my personal opinions and deductions in the case and should not be mistaken for fact. While I have developed a theory based on as many facts as possible, there are multiple theories that might fit or various perpetrators that given the exact circumstances might be interchanged. For my theory, I will be exploring an abduction between the hours of 8 pm and 3 30 am with the perpetrator of the abduction being Cousin Joe who was visiting from Tennessee the week Haleigh went missing with possible help from Hank Croslin jr.

MOTIVE: Retaliation for fight over 9 mm Berretta that Cousin Joe allegedly stole from Ronald Cummings 2 weeks before Haleigh went missing. Initially I believe the plan may have been to make access into 202 Gr Lane on the night of February 9th and steal back the gun that had previously been recovered from Joe’s hiding spot in a culvert on Tommy and Lindsey Croslin’s property.I believe that Haleigh woke while the thieves were in the home and since she would have been able to identify Joe and Misty’s brother Hank jr (Tommy) she was taken.

OPPORTUNITY: I believe that it was widely known to members of the Croslin family that Ronald Cummings worked the evening shift at PDM Bridge. Being that Cousin Joe was in Florida for two weeks prior to Haleigh’s disappearance and was staying with the brother and sister in law of Misty and had exclusive access to the blue family van. Believe it or not a consistent story was told by various members of the Croslin family in reference to the gun. The overwhelming theme was that Cousin Joe had taken the gun and placed it in a culvert for safe keeping until gun could be retrieved and make the trip over state lines back into Tennessee with Cousin Joe. Misty’s father Hank SR, Lisa Croslin, Lindsey Croslin alongside her Husband Hankjr all recounted the story about the gun hidden in the culvert. Lindsey pointed out the culvert to numerous people and stated that the gun was hidden in the drainage pipe when Misty went to retrieve the while on the phone with Ronald.

THE STEPS: It has been stated that Misty turned her phone off around the 8:30 pm mark on the evening of Feb. 9th. Upon repeated unanswered calls from initiated by Ronald a phone call was then made to the Croslin home to inquire if perhaps Misty was there and not answering her phone. After gaining the information that Misty was not answering Ronalds calls, I believe that Cousin Joe saw an opportunity to “give Ronald what he had coming to him” those were the words used to describe Joe’s reaction after the fight over the missing gun.

Hank jr and perhaps Cousin Joe as well would have known entry points at 202 Gr Lane. I think it is reasonable to assume that both men had been inside Haleigh’s home and would not have been troubled about fingerprints or possible DNA being found in the trailer. Both men also would have known that Misty is known to be a sound sleeper and with the knowledge gained by the phone call from Ronald, they knew she was sleeping deep enough for his phone calls to go unanswered. With that phone call they may also have discovered that Ronald was asked to work the extra hours at PDM. This was an added bonus as seen by them because it gave them more time to carry out their plan.

Access was made into the home, I have suspicion that it might have even been through the front door to the trailer since we never heard if the front door was even locked at all. Regardless, entry was made at they began looking for the gun. Somehow during that time I believe Haleigh woke up and discovered the two men in the trailer. She would not have had immediate cause for concern because both men were known to her. No screaming, no struggle. Now the two men had a very serious problem, they had been seen and it called for quick action to avoid Ronalds wrath. Perhaps at this point Haleigh was asking questions of the men, JR began to rouse, Haleigh was scooped up by one of the men and it was discovered that she was wet. Through the kitchen and to the back door where there was possibly a clean shirt for Haleigh. I believe it was here that one of the men, and I am leaning towards Cousin Joe because it was said that he had “bricked open” doors before in robberies, stayed behind and staged the door with the cinder block and perhaps led Haleigh down the path in the woods, leaving a footprint in the dirt. While the other man perhaps raced back to grab the keys to the family van and use it to conceal and make it away form 202 Gr Lane without being noticed by neighbors and also cover any noise that Haleigh would be making, because now she knows that something is very wrong.

WRAPPING UP: There are indeed pictures of this blue van with deep scratches down the side. Misty’s sister in law confirms that the van was taken by Law Enforcement and processed for evidence. Perhaps Haleigh’s fingerprints and DNA were found inside the van and that would not have been out of the norm since it was a vehicle shared by various members of the Croslin family. In a recent interview with Chelsea Croslin here : http://www.artharris.com/2009/10/05/exclusive-inside-the-haleigh-cummings-family-feud/#more-3180 this was said.. SNIP~With her car totalled, Chelsea started driving the blue family van, which she initially reported appeared to be parked in a different spot than she usually left it the day Haleigh was reported missing. Cousin Joe Overstreet had spent the night, and Chelsea later told police she’d left the keys on the kitchen counter, where she usually does, within easy reach. Reflecting now, she says, “What I told police was that I can’t totally, 100 per cent account for Joe that night…
“I don’t see Joe doing something like this, but I just gave police my observations — that the van just seemed to be in a different spot. I have a long driveway, and the back steps are to the left. I usually turn the wheel so the car is behind the stairs. This time, I noticed it seemed to be parked more on the side of the house. I don’t know if Joe took it to the store, or maybe he didn’t take it at all.” ~ END SNIP

As you can tell I have left out the ugly part in my theory. To sum up and tie it together THIS THEORY I will say that Haleigh was taken from the MH that night with perhaps the intention of only an attempt to buy Cousin Joe and Hankjr the time to develop a story that would explain to Haleigh why they were in her fathers home, At this point Haleigh is scared and completely aware that something bad is happening to her, she was scared and perhaps even screaming now. It became necessary to silence Haleigh and that is what they did. Whether they placed a hand over her mouth or what method they used, with Haleigh’s Turner Syndrome I believe her breathing was labored, possibly more than a child without asthma or a breathing disorder, and Haleigh was killed. I go back and forth on the exact circumstances of disposal with this theory. The events of the evening could have been changed up and Haleigh might have been smothered off the trail in the woods possibly even in the small outbuilding that was searched and then placed in the dumpster or near the dumpster until one of the men could retrieve the Croslin van. However it happened, for the purpose of this theory I will end with Haleigh being disposed of in the river, or possibly a canal. There was a track that cadaver dogs followed down to the docks and we know all about the dumpster hits right. I believe this was all carried out between the hours of 10:30 and possibly 2:30. Hank jr has admittedly placed himself at 202 Gr Lane in this time frame, Cousin Joe hightailed it back to Tennessee the next day the 10th and was urged by family and friends to travel back to Satsuma to be interviewed and clear his name. Personally his name will never be cleared until he comes clean and the vehicle that he traveled back to Tennessee in is searched and he accounts for his evening in the same manner that all other people who had contact with Haleigh have done.

Cyberborg: In response to the post of yours involving things that would have to happen in order for this scenario to be carried out. I think I addressed all of your questions. These two men would have been privy to information that only family members would know. Couple that with the information that a call from Ronald was received and they possibly gained the knowledge that He was working late and therefore they knew they had the extra time to carry out the plan. Fingerprints and DNA absolutely could have been found inside the home but because both men had access to trailer in the past they have their excuse.....Any other points I forgot please feel free to ask. This is indeed just a theory. I have 2 others but quite honestly i am a little tired out from working up this one!:blushing:....

As a side note, I have been trying to track down the information that would tell me how Cousin Joe returned to Tennessee on the 10th. I have family members in Knoxville that have tried researching this for me and they have found out nothing. You might remember that A RAV 4 was seen at a Carrabba's as well as a little girl with a man that was covering her face. Could Joe have brought Haleigh to Tennessee with him? Too many questions

Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!!!

:clap::clap::clap::clap:

I need to mull this over but this is great. Good job. If we can collect the stronger theories and compare and debate them -- that's cool.
 
  • #40
I feel Haleigh was abducted only for sexual reasons that went completely WRONG and disposed of.

My worst worst fear, that I don't like to think about was that there was a party either in the MH or elsewhere and while Misty was busy, HaLeigh was drugged and molested as well. HaLeigh was either over-dosed or it became something she would speak of and Ron would act --- so she was removed.

I don't like to go there but given raucious (sp?) drug parties with young children around there are no boundaries to animal activity.
 

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