Hank Croslin Jr Talks

Maybe they wanted Misty to think they believed her?
You know... gain her trust....

Maybe but I don't really see how that would work...? Misty must have known that Ron was worried and angry that night even if nothing had happened yet and it must have looked very weird to her if they did a sudden 180 after a child is gone.

And I can't buy it that LE would ask the family of a missing girl to subject another child of theirs to the ministrations of a suspect in the disappearance of said girl. JMOO. I wouldn't do it even if they asked.
 
Hi, On HLN just now they said Tommy said he knocked and banged on the door with no answer, could hear no noise from the house or even see any light which was unusual. He said usually they had the TV on or a movie playing when they were sleeping.

That is why he had a good idea no one was home. Do we know what time this was? I think Misty was out partying and had the kids sleeping in the van, and in her altered condition wasn't even watching the kids as they slept. And maybe they were parked by that L shaped lake at the time. IMO
 
Maybe he did and maybe he didn't. Only people that know are LE and Ron and they haven't shared that info with us yet. I am sure Art, nor TJ, or anyone else has seen the phone records unless Ron shared that with them. I don't believe Ron was told Misty and the kids were gone, when she had no vehicle. No way he stayed at work another 5 hours and stopped at the store to buy 2 pks of cigs/beer/peanuts if he had been told Misty and the kids were MIA 5 hours earlier.

I agree cajun. Law Enforcement isn't just now getting those phone records. Tommy did however just get arrested on another charge. Which means he was there for the taking and talking to in my opinion. Perhaps he was asked where he thought Misty might go if she wasn't home. I wish we knew what LE knows.
 
its fairly easy to get a copy of someones phone records. maybe cobra had a copy and showed AH?? who knows.
 
its fairly easy to get a copy of someones phone records. maybe cobra had a copy and showed AH?? who knows.

Strange, I would think they are confidential other than for LE.

I think if Cobra or Art had them they would have plastered them on Art's site and Cobra would not have been able to shut up about it.
 
But there is nothing that we have seen that says Tommy called RC back, however Tommy called Timmy - JO was staying at Timmy's perfect opportunity for JO to get back at RC over the gun thing, perfect opportunity for van to get damaged - break in thinking no one is home finds then home and he takes Haleigh.

I do not believe for a minute RC has known all this time that Misty was not home, at this point I don't believe 100% that Misty was not home based on Tommy's statement.

Ron DID make a phone call to Hank. It is in the phone records that a call was made to him the night Haleigh went missing.

Source = HLN and my TV
 
While Hank's statements in and of themselves would probably be questionable (just as any early lies he told are), this current one bears a little examination. Regardless of Hanks propensity for truth and reasons for covering his own 🤬🤬🤬, this piece does seem to fit in with a few other things that we do know.

1. Ron and Misty had a huge blowout on the phone. Misty wanted to leave the house to "babysit", after a three day bender of booze and drugs. Ron said no. (probably suspecting she was going out someplace to party some more).

2. Ron did call Hank at some point between this arguement and Misty's call that led to the 911 call. It is not unreasonable to suspect that Ron wanted someone to go check if Misty was in fact in the house.

3. We have statements that track back through TM that Misty's bed had not been slept in.

Add to this a few interesting leanings on things from LE and you start to get a pretty clear feeling that they do not believe for a minute that Misty was home or that this in any way involves a stranger or unrelated party.

- LE clearly was seeking witnesses that Misty was out and about that night. The way they asked left little doubt that they were sure she was out and were simply seeking to track her movements.

- LE just put this statemenet from Hank out into play. Hank or the family did not do it themselves. Given how tight lipped LE has been throughout, it is pretty safe bet that anything they are actually saying pretty well matches the theory they are working on.

- LE did not notify the family and in particular RC about this weekends search themselves. This is almost always always a clear sign that they strongly believe that it is not a stranger related crime, and that the person of interest is a close member of the family. As such they do not want to compromise investigation information through that person directly or indirectly through another family member.

There is one big bullseye for this investigation. Chances are it is not directly Hank. Although it is deeply disturbing exactly how much Hank and by implication RC rather obviously knew about Misty's whereabouts prior to even that initial 911 call.Given that this has never been publicly stated or comunicated to those searching for Hayleigh it is absolutely chilling.

It all comes down to exactly what were Misty's action that night? Where did she go? Where did she take those kids? Did she harm Hayleight herself? Did she trade Hayleigh to someone for drugs? Was her absense from the home when she was out partying or when she was disposing of the poor little girl? I am sorry but there is no happy outcome or possibility in this for Misty. She is in it up to her underaged drug addled eyeballs.

Great post, faefrost!

I don't see a reason to look past all the evidence we have - LE's stating she was out, Tim Miller and a respected atty saying even Ron said she was out, and all those failed polys... not to mention our own recognition of her story not meshing (like her "freaking out" over someone being in the trailer - why freak out so fast, when it was time for Ron to be home?)

My guess is that Misty gave both Jr and Haleigh a drug to make them sleep through her outing, and it wound up being fatal to Haleigh. :( I think she staged the scene to cast suspicion on Cousin Joe, using the concrete block and van to point to him.
 
its fairly easy to get a copy of someones phone records. maybe cobra had a copy and showed AH?? who knows.

It's not easy to get a copy of someone's phone records. If that was the case then we (WSers) would have had the phone records by now.
 
Strange, I would think they are confidential other than for LE.

I think if Cobra or Art had them they would have plastered them on Art's site and Cobra would not have been able to shut up about it.

I'm not saying it's legal to obtain someone else phone records, just sayin it is done - especially by PI's.
 
It's not easy to get a copy of someone's phone records. If that was the case then we (WSers) would have had the phone records by now.

when my husband had an affair, I got copies of his girlfriends phone records for months because I figured he was using a disposable - anyhow that's how I knew she was calling him at work all day long and also found out he had a 2nd phone. just costs lots of $$
 
But there is nothing that we have seen that says Tommy called RC back, however Tommy called Timmy - JO was staying at Timmy's perfect opportunity for JO to get back at RC over the gun thing, perfect opportunity for van to get damaged - break in thinking no one is home finds then home and he takes Haleigh.

I do not believe for a minute RC has known all this time that Misty was not home, at this point I don't believe 100% that Misty was not home based on Tommy's statement.
But we have more than Tommy's statement.
We have LE's statements.
We have polys.
We have Tim Miller's statement.
Heck, Cobra told us this months ago.

One can poke doubt at those things individually, as they come along, but there comes a point where it's perverse to deny.... It's like saying fur doesn't prove it's a rabbit, long ears don't mean it's a rabbit, eating carrots doesn't mean it's a rabbit, hopping doesn't mean it's a rabbit...
...all while ignoring that we have a furry, hoppy, long-eared carrot-eater... :D
 
Art Harris is well respected. It wouldn't surprise me if he's seen them. HLN looks into their sources big time and so I don't see them having Art on the show if he wasn't reliable.
 
Art Harris is well respected. It wouldn't surprise me if he's seen them. HLN looks into their sources big time and so I don't see them having Art on the show if he wasn't reliable.

I just quickly scanned through the segment on Prime News and the only person I heard on the show was TJ Hart and Mike Brooks. I didn't see or hear Art Harris on the show.
 
I just got on and have been reading the new news, and all I have to say is this does not suprise me one bit that Misty was not home, it is something I have felt fairly certain about for months now.
 
If Ron was worried enough to send Tommy over to check on Misty, if Tommy didn't call him back, why did Ron work extra and then go to the store past his house instead of immediately home?
 

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