Hank Croslin Jr Talks

[kiki the parrot]

While Hank's statements in and of themselves would probably be questionable (just as any early lies he told are), this current one bears a little examination. Regardless of Hanks propensity for truth and reasons for covering his own , this piece does seem to fit in with a few other things that we do know.

1. Ron and Misty had a huge blowout on the phone. Misty wanted to leave the house to "babysit", after a three day bender of booze and drugs. Ron said no. (probably suspecting she was going out someplace to party some more).

2. Ron did call Hank at some point between this arguement and Misty's call that led to the 911 call. It is not unreasonable to suspect that Ron wanted someone to go check if Misty was in fact in the house.

3. We have statements that track back through TM that Misty's bed had not been slept in.

Add to this a few interesting leanings on things from LE and you start to get a pretty clear feeling that they do not believe for a minute that Misty was home or that this in any way involves a stranger or unrelated party.

- LE clearly was seeking witnesses that Misty was out and about that night. The way they asked left little doubt that they were sure she was out and were simply seeking to track her movements.

- LE just put this statemenet from Hank out into play. Hank or the family did not do it themselves. Given how tight lipped LE has been throughout, it is pretty safe bet that anything they are actually saying pretty well matches the theory they are working on.

- LE did not notify the family and in particular RC about this weekends search themselves. This is almost always always a clear sign that they strongly believe that it is not a stranger related crime, and that the person of interest is a close member of the family. As such they do not want to compromise investigation information through that person directly or indirectly through another family member.

There is one big bullseye for this investigation. Chances are it is not directly Hank. Although it is deeply disturbing exactly how much Hank and by implication RC rather obviously knew about Misty's whereabouts prior to even that initial 911 call.Given that this has never been publicly stated or comunicated to those searching for Hayleigh it is absolutely chilling.

It all comes down to exactly what were Misty's action that night? Where did she go? Where did she take those kids? Did she harm Hayleight herself? Did she trade Hayleigh to someone for drugs? Was her absense from the home when she was out partying or when she was disposing of the poor little girl? I am sorry but there is no happy outcome or possibility in this for Misty. She is in it up to her underaged drug addled eyeballs.

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arrot:

 

[kiki the parrot]

I just want HaLeigh home safe with her family.

(bold, itals mine) I can not swallow the two together. In retrospect, it would seem the two were mutually exclusive. JMO

arrot:

 

[Flossie JMO]

I am not sure if you were talking to me. I did say banged on the door. I don't know what he did.....only Law Enforcement does. I apologize for stating banged. People hear what they want to hear I guess I want to hear LE clear some people and make an arrest but I don't think that will happen....

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Hi there, no I wasn't actually, I was referring to the original from TJ, then Nancy's version, the examiner article version etc. Someone posted the info earlier

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I don't think Tommy knocked on any door. I think his story is full of holes. He now has no alibi for that time period since he was not at home with his wife while he places himself at the scene. This is very important!

 

[Flossie JMO]

I was wondering that SS, or did LE tell him they have evidence he was there that night, incl hands on the door? So he's maybe created this story?

 

[kikid]

First, I'd like to say I'm on nobody's side but Haleigh's. Nobody in this sorry mess is above suspicion at this point, and nobody is 100% believable to me.

The phone call between Misty & Ron that was supposedly about babysitting - how do we know this was the topic of discussion/reason for arguement? Because Misty or Ron said so? Nope, I don't believe anything either one says. What we know is there was a phone call - then the phone was turned off.

Now, HC2 says he went to the mh at 10pm after Ron called him. Fact, Ron called HC2 at some point that evening, after the call with misty. Everything else is not a fact.

For me, the only FACTS are the ones that can be verified by some proof other than the word of a Cummings or Croslin family member.

so we have as facts:

Ron drove recklessly that morning past bus stop (witnessed by neighbors).
Haleigh didn't take the bus that morning.
Haleigh did attend school that day.
Haleigh got off school bus, picked up by Ron. (per Flossie stating this info was stated by LE)
Ron went into work sometime in the early evening and worked "normal" shift.
Phone Call from RC to MC at around 8:30.
Phone call from RC to HC2 a bit later.
Phone call to 911 at 3:30ish am.
Haleigh was/is still missing.

LE hasn't held the mh as the "crime scene". Nor have they really called the mh that.

I don't put much stock into anything any of the players in this case says. I don't know if Misty was there at 10.

My opinion based upon conjecture and gut feelings is that Misty was not at the Mobile Home that night, and neither were the kids. Figure out where they were and you'll find the crime scene.

 

[Flossie JMO]

Actually that's not a fact.

Haleigh got off school bus and into the van with Misty after school (witnessed by other parents at bus stop).

 

[kikid]

Actually that's not a fact.

Haleigh got off school bus and into the van with Misty after school (witnessed by other parents at bus stop).

well, I stated that for me a FACT is information from non Cummmings & Croslin family members. so no, it isn't a fact in the legal sense, but for my purposes of formulating my own theories on this case it is.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I think someone did see him and his red truck (the one he sold) near the mh that night. He wouldn't be worried about his fingerprints or DNA being on anything except the cement block because he was there earlier in the day, imo. I believe LE confirmed the phone records and he had to make up a story to go along with the call from Ronald. By insinuating that Misty wasn't home without saying it points the finger back at her and it was his intention. He didn't realize it would place him at the scene with no alibi tho. Oops.

 

[Flossie JMO]

well, I stated that for me a FACT is information from non Cummmings & Croslin family members. so no, it isn't a fact in the legal sense, but for my purposes of formulating my own theories on this case it is.

Actually that's incorrect, LE said RC picked her up.

Art Harris said Santos ( who had a run in with Ron) and his girlfriend and an anonymous person said Misty picked her up, but that there are other witnesses that said Ron picked her up, he just hasn't spoken to them iirc.

TJ Hart just said the other day that LE said Ron picked her up.

 

[kikid]

I think someone did see him and his red truck (the one he sold) near the mh that night. He wouldn't be worried about his fingerprints or DNA being on anything except the cement block because he was there earlier in the day, imo. I believe LE confirmed the phone records and he had to make up a story to go along with the call from Ronald. By insinuating that Misty wasn't home without saying it points the finger back at her and it was his intention. He didn't realize it would place him at the scene with no alibi tho. Oops.

we don't really know that he has no alibi - where was his wife? was she around, did know he ran over to RC's mh and witness his return? If she wasn't there, was he watching his own kids, were they with him when he ran over to check on Misty?

so soooooo many unanswered questions.

 

[Flossie JMO]

I think someone did see him and his red truck (the one he sold) near the mh that night. He wouldn't be worried about his fingerprints or DNA being on anything except the cement block because he was there earlier in the day, imo. I believe LE confirmed the phone records and he had to make up a story to go along with the call from Ronald. By insinuating that Misty wasn't home without saying it points the finger back at her and it was his intention. He didn't realize it would place him at the scene with no alibi tho. Oops.

He has definitely pointed at himself imo

 

[kikid]

Actually that's incorrect, LE said RC picked her up.

Art Harris said Santos ( who had a run in with Ron) and his girlfriend and an anonymous person said Misty picked her up, but that there are other witnesses that said Ron picked her up, he just hasn't spoken to them.

TJ Hart just said the other day that LE said Ron picked her up.

ok, then I will edit my post to reflect that morsel.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

The stories surrounding the bus stop are a non-issue because LE already has confirmed what took place up until late evening at the mh. They questioned Lindsey about a 4 hour window which she stated were the hours leading up to the 911 call. The subject here is Tommy's story about what happened during that time period basically.

What did Tommy do after he supposedly knocked on the door? Where did he go? Who saw him? When did Lindsey state she saw him again? When did she go to bed or wake up? What is Tommy's story after he places himself at the scene?

Btw~ LE did hold the mh as a "crime scene" for over 2 weeks. I can provide many articles and videos which will back this up.

 

[kiki the parrot]

When you can't trust LE or the media...it is a problem.

And when we are selective about when we do and don't choose to believe LE or the media, we have an even bigger problem.

To be honest, I think the front door was left unlocked. No one has ever stated it was locked to my knowledge...only the backdoor that Ronald checked before he left for work.

With the type of plastic lock on the back screen door, Misty would not have found it necessary to put the cement block by the door for re-entry. I still think this was done to facilitate taking Haleigh out of the house by the perp.

(snip) And I still think it was much needed staging... in a situation in which there was dire need of some remote hint or suggestion of forced entry. Neither RC nor MC have indicated the front door was unlocked... are we to believe either with regard to this... or by extension, anything?

Can they can come up with the truth about everything she has said to prove she lied about it all? I know there are "inconsistencies", but perhaps not outright lies from her about everything she said. There are things people consider as lies that I cannot find anything solid as evidence to say they are accurate in their assessment.

IMO Misty originally lied about her party weekend, then came clean and admitted she had been out doing drugs on the party weekend. I think alot of the other inconsistencies are the names of movies, the washing of clothes etc.

(snip, bbm) Yes of course you mean just a few little "mistruths" like where she was and what she was doing! :waitasec:

If someone comes to my home, and I'm in bed asleep. I am not answering the door. Especially if I am in a deep and heavy sleep. Does that mean I wasn't home? because they did not get an answer? Also,if Misty was not at home, as people think (or Hank is implying)...would not the back door have been "bricked" open? So she could get back in?

I normally would not answer the door if I was in bed even if I was not yet asleep. But if the knocking continued and sounded urgent I would answer.

Also, if one of my relatives was concerned about me, they would be calling my name or saying who they were as they were knocking to get my attention. Of course, then I would answer.

(bbm) But again, even Misty herself denies she was in bed--until 10:30 or 11:00! On top of which we've now heard RC's own attorney insisting that it wasn't 10pm either, and closer to 9pm!

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[Flossie JMO]

The stories surrounding the bus stop are a non-issue because LE already has confirmed what took place up until late evening at the mh. They questioned Lindsey about a 4 hour window which she stated were the hours leading up to the 911 call. The subject here is Tommy's story about what happened during that time period basically.

What did Tommy do after he supposedly knocked on the door? Where did he go? Who saw him? When did Lindsey state she saw him again? When did she go to bed or wake up? What is Tommy's story after he places himself at the scene?

Btw~ LE did hold the mh as a "crime scene" for over 2 weeks. I can provide many articles and videos which will back this up.

I agree, I find the "mistruths" posted everywhere about the bus stop disturbing.

LE held the MH but said there was no evidence HaLeigh was not alive, and they didn't know what crime had occurred

 

[kiki the parrot]

Actually that's not a fact.

Haleigh got off school bus and into the van with Misty after school (witnessed by other parents at bus stop).[/i[

(bbm) Do you mean the same (disinterested, credible) parents who say they witnessed MC smacking Austin or Junior across the face and overheard MC threatening to "knock the $#!+ out of" the children
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[vickycopsy]

I saw a video earlier of them making out for the camera, they looked pretty lovey dovey to me.

They are a young couple, of course they sleep together. imo

BBM

Ron will be 26 next month. Way too old for a 17 year old. imo

If Hank Jr. is a child molester and he molested Misty, I'm sure Misty told Ron about it.

Why did they allow Hank Jr. to be around those babies? :waitasec:

Very very good point Snookie! Why WOULD Misty let her brother around those kids?? And to take it a step further.... why would MISTY herself want to have him over to "visit" and all if he had abused her?? Most women would not want the man who molested them hanging around their home.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

well, I stated that for me a FACT is information from non Cummmings & Croslin family members. so no, it isn't a fact in the legal sense, but for my purposes of formulating my own theories on this case it is.

We learned over the weekend that we can't really go by what LE says is fact either...so I guess the best any of us can do is to evaluate everything we hear with the knowledge we have garnered in this case from the beginning and what we believe to be true personally.

I certainly am not going to believe Tommy at this point. There was a reason he sold his truck right after Haleigh went missing, imo. I do believe this part of Misty's story because it was proven by Tim to be true when he found the truck and turned it over to LE. This makes me believe other parts of her story concerning Tommy, too. I do think she had suspicions of him early on and of JO, too. Now...Tommy has placed himself at the mh!

 

[snookie]

Tommy "Hank" Croslin never molested Misty....IMO...neither did JO and I have serious doubts about the kid Misty put behind bars for 8 eight years...IMO.

I totally agree with you, Whisperer.

Misty lies a lot.... notice when the negative attention starts turning her way she points the finger at a guy and says he molested her? It's like her stock answer. I will look for the link where I read that Misty told Ron, her daddy, and brothers that WBG raped her. That's why they were going after him!!


People get molested and raped all the time, and that's very sad, but I have a hard time believing Misty has been assaulted as many times and by as many people as she says. Especially with her history of lying. :liar:

I think that kid sitting behind bars deserves a new trial.