Has JMK made you lean toward IDI

[BBB167893]

I'm with rashomon 100%

 

[MysteryAddict]

I believe both Ramsey's were involved.

 

[Zelda]

Brutal Truth, there was no evidence that Westerfield broke into the Van Dam's home either but he did and he was convicted of the murder and found evidence in his belongings. If the Boulder Police just had some clue who could have done it in the area and subjected some others to a search maybe they would have found something. I still think the Santa Claus guy looked pretty guilty.

It wasn't brought out in the trial but later I heard Brenda VD say that they think DW hid in the shower near Danielle's room, until it was quiet enough to carry her out. Brenda alo said she thinks he may have hidden in the shower, on other occasions, before he kidnapped Danielle

What do IDI and JDI mean? Intruder did it? Ramseys did it? I never have known for sure.

 

[Nuisanceposter]

IDI - intruder did it
RDI - Ramsey did it
JDI - John did it
PDI - Patsy did it
BDI - Burke did it

et cetera.

 

[poco]

I voted RDI - although I believe either RDI together, JRDI alone or PRDI alone, I almost 100% believe PRWTRN!!!

 

[Juliet10]

Did he screw around in the house like this supposed intruder? No.

There are way to many things this intruder had to do in the ramseys house that night. And it just isnt believeable.

Oh and the Boulder Police had an idea who did it and they lived in the house.

They have evidence that points away from the Ramseys. The police that don't like the intruder theory don't like that evidence. They continue to poo poo it or explain it away. I also don't beleive they collected all the evidence. They weren't looking for an intruder. They wanted to hang Patsy. They didn't collect everything they were suppose to or do the job properly. They were inexperienced people on the case. Steve Thomas was totally biased and likely corrupt too. Who knows what might have happened to evidence. Most of the place was contaminated and compromised or ruined.

There was no evidence in the Jaclyn Dowaliby killing either. In fact the prosecution expert said the window was broken inside. The prosecutors and detectives don't like evidence that points away from their theory. They want that evidence to "go away". That is why Thomas says White opened the basement window. They use excuses like, "that has nothing to do with the case", so they ignore it. So they either don't bother collecting it or it goes "missing".

 

[SleuthingSleuth]

They have evidence that points away from the Ramseys. The police that don't like the intruder theory don't like that evidence. They continue to poo poo it or explain it away. I also don't beleive they collected all the evidence. They weren't looking for an intruder. They wanted to hang Patsy. They didn't collect everything they were suppose to or do the job properly. They were inexperienced people on the case. Steve Thomas was totally biased and likely corrupt too. Who knows what might have happened to evidence. Most of the place was contaminated and compromised or ruined.

There was no evidence in the Jaclyn Dowaliby killing either. In fact the prosecution expert said the window was broken inside. The prosecutors and detectives don't like evidence that points away from their theory. They want that evidence to "go away". That is why Thomas says White opened the basement window. They use excuses like, "that has nothing to do with the case", so they ignore it. So they either don't bother collecting it or it goes "missing".

What is the evidence there was there was an intruder in the house?
How did he get in, and how did he get out?
What was his intention in going into the house?
As well, why was he so comfortable in the house, and fearless of the alarm warnings? He even got lucky in coming on a night when the dog wasn't around.

It seems to me having pulled this crime off perfectly, such a person would not stop at just one. Are there any similar cases featuring such a fearless intruder who does not leave any traces of himself behind?

 

[Nuisanceposter]

Absolutely, SS. Anyone who broke into a house and successfully pulled off a crime of this magnitude would not have stopped afterwards. An intruder who feels as comfortable in the home he's invading as this guy did does not exist.

I mean, think about it...what makes more sense - that some intruder found a way into the Ramsey house, woke JonBenet up, fed her pineapple, waited around for an hour or so before he hit her on the head, assaulted her vaginally, and strangled her, cleaned her up, redressed her, then wrote an obviously fake ransom note, and left without leaving behind any forensic evidence that he was there - or a parent accidentally hit JB, staged an intruder scene complete with strangling, and wrote an obviously fake ransom note comfortable in their own home?

And don't forget - fibers from the clothing both John and Patsy wore that evening were found in the crime scene and on the body. Either the intruder wore J & P's clothes or the Ramseys are liars.

 

[Peter Hamilton]

SleuthingSleuth,you are asking very pertinent questions in this case but no IDI theorist has bothered to answer you---I wonder why

 

[Jolynna]

To know that the dog wasn't gonna be around that night, find the right bedroom, to have the family information to put in the ransom note, to know where Burke's pocket knife was to cut the rope, to know that the alarm was not working, to know so many things the murderer had to know, any intruder would have to know more about the Ramseys than that they had a cute daughter.

Any intruder would HAVE to be part of the Ramsey's lives. No one, up until a couple of weeks ago ever thought otherwise. Every article, year after year said that the killer was either someone in the family or someone who was VERY close to them.

 

[GuruJosh]

Are there any similar cases featuring such a fearless intruder who does not leave any traces of himself behind?

Yep - OJ Simpson

 

[Peter Hamilton]

OJ--lol--I remember watching Montell Williams show a few years ago--Dr. Henry Lee was on---Montell seemed to think OJ's blood wasn't there--and then Lee stated DNA proved OJ's blood was indeed there--his blood was at the crime scene--poor montell then sort of stammered,first time montell was at a loss for words--guess he thought because Lee testified for the defense,Lee wouldn't confirm OJ's blood was at the crime scene--too funny

 

[rashomon]

Yep - OJ Simpson

And Jeffrey MacDonald claimed that there had been at least six intruders who slaughtered his whole family, but oh wonder, none of those alleged assailants left a shred of forensic evidence behind. No DNA, no fingerprints, no fibers - nothing. The grim truth is that the only assailant present in his house on that fatal night on Feb 17/1970 was Jeffrey MacDonald himself.