GUILTY HI - Carly Joann 'Charli' Scott, 27, pregnant, Makawao, 9 Feb 2014 - #2

[Napili]

Thanks, MamaM --!

I agree with your assessment re their youth and geographical isolation--seen it too. On Maui, young people have plenty of opportunity for contact with corrupting adults, too. Sad.

I hope it doesn't sound like an excuse was implied for taking the item in question! Just saying how easy it can be to rationalize when we live without a plum line.

 

[Mamamerced]

Napili....I understand and agree with you, too. Love your imagery.

 

[heartgoesout]

PeterTosh thank you as always for your thoughts. We always appreciate the info you give us. As you can see we are still diligently searching for answers and justice for Charli and Joshua.

 

[heartgoesout]

So Nap, so you're thinking that LG involvement with cars/parts, is more just a way of life on the island then a purposeful involvement of specifically Charli ? More of a when in Rome?

 

[Kapua]

- Recently directed at SC/Charli's friends by a family member.

My intent as Crabapple and The Study was to do my best to take SC out of our community. If it meant rubbing his factional, cliquish little generational community the wrong way so be it. They all needed to realize they are part of a whole community here on Maui. Time to grow up. Their nose was in it. Many of them were complicit in suppressing the obvious. Being older I am an outsider to their world. Yet like it or not they are in my world.

A lot of their friends hopped off the SC bandwagon soon after the obvious began to dawn. Yet...I still harbor anger and mistrust of them I see them as weak little souls that are undeserving of attaching themselves to the grieving Charli's side. They were out to get me plain and simple and were helping Capob to do it. Thieving little miscreants they are. moo

Thanks, Peter, for all that you have done to get this lowlife behind bars where he belongs. :jail:
The obvious dawned on most of us fairly early on. Good to have you back! I hope you are safe.

 

[heartgoesout]

Having been the family member of a murder victim I wholeheartedly understand. We did everything in our power to make the guilty pay. We continuously do and it's been 8 years. We recently received a letter from the prison that there was going to be a media event for a project the guilty had been involved in. We are able to voice our opinion and protest him being involved with any special privileges outside of normal prison life. It never stops even when they are behind bars for life.

 

[Napili]

So Nap, so you're thinking that LG involvement with cars/parts, is more just a way of life on the island then a purposeful involvement of specifically Charli ? More of a when in Rome?

Yes. That's what I think. Business as usual...sort of... Not sure that I would say, "when in Rome...", which implies a CONSCIOUS conformity, but I think that often people--especially young people-just operate unthinkingly...conform on auto... There might also be a kind of denial in the face of such incomprehensible horror, especially in such an otherwise benign place. So....people do weird things. There's a disconnect, I think. Plus, well, I couldn't read the actual posts & the content, etc. (%#£¥!@! ipad--thanks again for your help!) but, as far as I can tell, we don't know that she actually took the parts car, do we? Just that someone we like and trust (BS) has made that strong accusation...?

 

[heartgoesout]

You're right. We don't know LG involvement. I trust BS and KS though.
Mostly because their posts seem to be truths. There has not been anything I've read that is misleading or spiteful, or ramblings that would jeopardize their case against SC. They have handled this, from what I can see from afar, with grace and tenacity. They are recking balls. Women who change the world. They're my type of gals.

 

[puakenikeni]

You're right. We don't know LG involvement. I trust BS and KS though.
Mostly because their posts seem to be truths. There has not been anything I've read that is misleading or spiteful, or ramblings that would jeopardize their case against SC. They have handled this, from what I can see from afar, with grace and tenacity. They are recking balls. Women who change the world. They're my type of gals.

Mine too!

 

[Napili]

You're right. We don't know LG involvement. I trust BS and KS though.
Mostly because their posts seem to be truths. There has not been anything I've read that is misleading or spiteful, or ramblings that would jeopardize their case against SC. They have handled this, from what I can see from afar, with grace and tenacity. They are recking balls. Women who change the world. They're my type of gals.

I hope someone will write this whole story in a book and tell about their grace and tenacity. It deserves to be told.

 

[puakenikeni]

That was a well-thought out and expressed post, Napili. I would add that their youth and geographical isolation probably contributes to their confusion. My kids grew up in a sparsely populated, relatively isolated community (16 in my daughter's HS graduation class, 20 in my son's) and became friends in kindergarten with people that carried through high school. Now, after travel and college, they are still "friends" with many of them on FB, but simply "friendly" in their real lives. Their experiences have separated many of them. They understand much more about human nature and interactions now, whereas they were bonded by a sense of loyalty to the community/family while in elem. and h.s.
I honestly don't think it excuses taking Charli's spare-parts car, though.

So well thought out, Napili, that was some work to express, thank you!
I can relate, from my late teens and 20's. This is not meant to be any kind of political statement, just an observation: for decades now, the criminalization of relative benign drugs like marijuana has led to a social blending of those who break only the one law and those who break laws without ethical qualms. I learned real quick when supposedly good friends took up the offer to stay on the couch and departed with the camera or the coin collection or what have you.

My kids also have a group of friends they bonded with in a small town, half of whom seem to have fallen afoul of the justice system.
When you have social groups that didn't form due to like minded ethics, especially when young, it happens. But if one turns into a murderer? That's far outside the scope of the petty crime life society. I can see how it would be hard to grasp that someone is a complete sociopath if it was not figured out before.

 

[heartgoesout]

I hope someone will write this whole story in a book and tell about their grace and tenacity. It deserves to be told.

I would love to see a collection of Kim's poems in a book that tells their story, challenges, and successes. I believe it could be inspirational to others that have lost loved ones to senseless murders.

 

[puakenikeni]

Good idea about the collection, very!

Hi Peter Tosh, I am super glad you came back to the topic. What you have done here and elsewhere was well done. Thank you. I understand the generational clique thing well. I think I was a little older than Charli when I decided I wouldn't be tolerant of screwed up people who are selfish through and through any more. For a while I thought some of them were "interesting" -- it can be hard for givers by nature to give up on the takers. You hope if you keep giving that that one day they will turn into people who reciprocate, but they really don't.

 

[puakenikeni]

Photos of the stolen parts 4runner
Comments to post by MPD on Maui PD's official page.
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=859814827398700&id=176665472380309

 

[Mamamerced]

Photos of the stolen parts 4runner
Comments to post by MPD on Maui PD's official page.
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=859814827398700&id=176665472380309

Sounds like a whole lotta twisted going on in Kula. Imagine stealing the car of a recently murdered "friend". The No Ka Oi Horse Ranch was in Kula; wonder if that was where the parts car was stored and removed, possibly when LP had to move. Talk about salt on a wound.....

 

[Kapua]

Mahalo, Pua!

I assume the parts car was not running, so stealing it would have required either a tow truck or a large vehicle equipped with tow hitch. The thief/thieves have likely done this before, IMHO. Seems pretty stupid to steal something that large on the rural side of an island where everyone knows everyone.

Photos of the stolen parts 4runner
Comments to post by MPD on Maui PD's official page.
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=859814827398700&id=176665472380309

 

[heartgoesout]

Is the parts car...and the car found burnt...the same car?

 

[Mamamerced]

Is the parts car...and the car found burnt...the same car?

If I understand your question correctly, the answer is no. Unless the parts car was also burned. The parts car was stolen from Kula sometime after the murder......I believe in March(?).

 

[Napili]

Sounds like a whole lotta twisted going on in Kula. Imagine stealing the car of a recently murdered "friend". The No Ka Oi Horse Ranch was in Kula; wonder if that was where the parts car was stored and removed, possibly when LP had to move. Talk about salt on a wound.....

The picture I have is that, if that was where Charli worked and was planning to live, and since she lived in a small rented ohana in Macawao, that the horse farm in Kula would be where she probably stored her Parts Car...with her Friends. Yes. Pretty twisted, if true. LP would have to have been so self-deluded that even after the determination of homicide and SC is so incriminated, she would either sell him the Parts Car, sell it through him, or enlist his aid in moving it. I don't know, but It sounds like LP might have *disposed of it for profit*...A whole lotta soul searching going on, now, I think. I hope.

 

[Napili]

Is the parts car...and the car found burnt...the same car?

No.no! They are NOT THE SAME. I deleted my earlier post,that might have confused you, because I mistakenly thought the link was referring to my question about the Torched Car missing parts. Sorry! My fault!