GUILTY HI - Carly Joann 'Charli' Scott, 27, pregnant, Makawao, 9 Feb 2014 - #3

[puakenikeni]

He's narcissistic, arrogant, and thinks he's smarter than the cops and the polygraph test, IMHO. Also, he knows that polygraph evidence is inadmissible in court. His chances of getting away with this would have been far better had he told them, "No, I didn't see her that night and I have no idea where she is."

BTW, none of the links work for me.

Yep, your version is a time tested formula for starting out at least even with the game instead of as the prime suspect. He even said to HNN that he was undeniably the prime suspect.

 

[puakenikeni]

I doubt his lawyers will put him on the stand. Im going to try and attend a session but I work so danged much. At one point I was almost pleading with him to leave the island. Jump on the next private sailboat for Tonga. We dont need to pay for his prison time. He was so arrogant. Saying "This is my island" and "I will never leave". I wonder if e even remembersthose conversations. Regrets not heeding my old man advice. He didnt think think he would get caught. I told him he was a fool if he thinks they are going to stop coming after him. I even told him it would happen in July because that's when his Pot probation was up. The kid is such a fool. Its was macabre to see him driving down the road. In Mana Foods. Well he wont be driving or eating healthy anytime soon.

It's so great to hear of these conversations, PT. Gives a sense of this person, plus it is wonderful to hear you have so much ability to say "I warned you, fool." That is a good one about the bar set so low when you live in the jungle. True. Poor Charli, what in the heck did she find so compelling about him? That he was a damaged fixer upper with some redeeming quality? (which would be ... ?)

 

[puakenikeni]

Not that I know of. SC really incriminated himself by volunteering so much. That's really all the prosecution has as far as we know that ties SC to the murder. No doubt their inability to have that stricken kinda puts their case in jeparody.

That's scary. I was hoping he had left some DNA where it should not have been.
The burn marks give legs to the arson, so that's good. I wonder if they could estimate how many hours ago he had burned himself. The rate skin heals should be something that could be used to give a window.
What I wonder is the evidence they would lose that they obtained directly from his statement and not some other way.

 

[puakenikeni]

Here's a cached link to the article.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...lygraph.html?nav=10+&cd=6&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
May it work ... suggest when you get these things to work that you copy the text for your own reference on your own computer. I do.

 

[Coldpizza]

Guys,here's a compromise for links behind a paywall.

You can paraphrase and include the link in case anyone has a subscription, or wants to pay for one, you just can't copy and paste.

Hope that helps

 

[Loio]

That's scary. I was hoping he had left some DNA where it should not have been.
The burn marks give legs to the arson, so that's good. I wonder if they could estimate how many hours ago he had burned himself. The rate skin heals should be something that could be used to give a window.
What I wonder is the evidence they would lose that they obtained directly from his statement and not some other way.

If the burn marks were noticed during the first interview, asked during the poly and then followed up on in the second interview, this might be part of the suppressed evidence. The results of the poly are not admissible but the interviews definitely are! I noticed Rivera didn't follow up the question regarding noticible injuries. Saving that for the trial?

How'd SC get symmetrical injuries on the back of his hands? Reaching into a hot engine to unbolt the grill? Flipping a truck over, burning his hands on the exhaust system?

Also, Kimberlyn told Loo, Nala wasn't at Charli's house but the article doesn't mention whether or not she saw Nala with Charli the night before.

If detectives didn't inform Steven that the dog had been found, what could he have said that he now wants suppressed?

 

[puakenikeni]

I understand the constraints. I don't have the energy to paraphrase such a long article though, because one has to be so careful about wording to give the exact right sense of it, if talking to people who have not been able to read it. Hoping people can use a working link like Google cache or get lucky with the App.

 

[Loio]

I have no problem reading their articles on mobile or laptop.

 

[PeterTosh]

App works for me fine

 

[puakenikeni]

I looked back at what SC said in his original interview about the police, and his own version is basically agreeing with police testimony.

Mileka: "And so when the cops arrived, what did they tell you?"
Steven: "They said, they told me that her parents had filed a missing person's report and gave them my name and they came to my address just to follow the lead."
Mileka: "Have they officially questioned you? Sometimes they make people take a lie detector test."
Steven: "I volunteered for all of that. I went down there as soon as I could. I let them interrogate me. I let them polygraph me. I did everything."

Police said they were just following a lead, nothing accusatory, and when Mileka suggests that he was questioned and asked if they made him take a polygraph, he says he volunteered for all that. In her question she intimates he may have been under some pressure, and he's saying no just the opposite, I was spilling everything I could to help out (and show I have nothing to hide).
He makes it so clear what his strategy was, trying to neutralize any suspicion. In doing so, he went overboard. That's on him. JMO.

 

[PeterTosh]

Also, Kimberlyn told Loo, Nala wasn't at Charli's house but the article doesn't mention whether or not she saw Nala with Charli the night before.

If detectives didn't inform Steven that the dog had been found, what could he have said that he now wants suppressed?

That Nala was with Charli when they left Keanae? I think he wants everything suppressed because those interviews are the only thing keeping him from saying he had no knowledge of where she was and had not seen her for ages. Which is what he should have said in the first place. But he felt compelled. Compelled not by MPD . He felt compelled to contribute to the case in order to appear like he had nothing to hide. Yet is ability to keep his story straight or have it jibe properly was inadequate. He should have kept his mouth shut. Hmmm...I remember someone telling me that same thing recently...

 

[Mamamerced]

I have no problem reading their articles on mobile or laptop.

With or without the app?

 

[puakenikeni]

That Nala was with Charli when they left Keanae? I think he wants everything suppressed because those interviews are the only thing keeping him from saying he had no knowledge of where she was and had not seen her for ages. Which is what he should have said in the first place. But he felt compelled. Compelled not by MPD . He felt compelled to contribute to the case in order to appear like he had nothing to hide. Yet is ability to keep his story straight or have it jibe properly was inadequate. He should have kept his mouth shut. Hmmm...I remember someone telling me that same thing recently...

oh the irony.
Excellent analysis of the psychology, the hubris, how he caused his own ruin doubly, first with the horrible deed and second with his botched cover-up.

MPD doesn't have the only interviews where he says Nala was with her though. He told that to HNN, and he can't suppress that statement. I think the concern with suppressing the story he told them may be more that part of his interview with MPD will conflict with his press statement to HNN, the one he is really stuck with, as well as with statements he made to the Scott family and members of the search team, with which he is also stuck. They will be able to make a good point out of his inconsistencies, and the more versions they can present the better.

There are at least a couple interviews with Scott family members where they say his timeline changed. He may have changed the timeline between the time he gave it to MPD and the HNN interview. So prosecution will want to preserve that discrepancy, also discrepancies between what was wrong with his truck and where he is "sure" that he last saw her headlights.

There may well be some damning stuff in the MPD questioning that we don't even know about yet, of course.

 

[puakenikeni]

Also, Kimberlyn told Loo, Nala wasn't at Charli's house but the article doesn't mention whether or not she saw Nala with Charli the night before.

If detectives didn't inform Steven that the dog had been found, what could he have said that he now wants suppressed?

Kimberlyn wasn't with Charli the night before, so she didn't personally see Nala. Charli was with Brooke that day doing baby and pregnancy planning as they were both expecting (which is heartbreaking), and in the evening the sisters had a birthday party. But I cannot find any interviews with Brooke where she talks about seeing Nala with Charli.

It is in the realm of possibility that Charli left Brooke's and went home to Makawao. It's in the realm that Steven was coming over to her house, and not the reverse. With or without her foreknowledge, as he may have had a key and was allegedly able to break into a house or two in the past. He could have gone over there and secured the dogs so they would not be a problem, if Nala was not with her.
A lot is possible if you X out his story that she told to no one.
Maybe she told none of her friends because she had nothing to tell and had no plans to see him.

 

[Mamamerced]

BTW, none of the links work for me.

Are you on an iPad? I am.

 

[Mamamerced]

Maybe SC did see Charli at 5 pm as he stated (somewhere) and he possibly made plans then for later that evening/night. Does anyone know what time Charli got to Brookes?

 

[Loio]

No. It's something substantial.

They were able to tie SC to the arson - fact.

They were able to tie Charli's murder to SC based on the finding of her jawbone (and tooth) - fact.

What did SC say that Wednesday morning (2/12/14) to Detective Loo that they were able to glean enough insight and later evidence to assemble a grand jury and consequently, indicte him?

 

[Kapua]

Here's a cached link to the article.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...lygraph.html?nav=10+&cd=6&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
May it work ... suggest when you get these things to work that you copy the text for your own reference on your own computer. I do.

Got it, THANKS! And thanks, Cold Pizza, for the guidelines!
The highlights for me were:
Attorneys saying that SC had failed the polygraph during a previous court hearing.
Police officer Loren Natividad spoke with KS at 10:00 PM on Feb. 10 and SC at his residence the following morning, Feb 11 at 6 AM.
Confirmation that Charli was last seen by family members at about 8 p.m. Feb. 9, 2014.
Mother reported pinging Charli's phone which showed that it was in the Honomanu area. The article didn't specify on which day, at which time.
Officer Wendell Loo interviewed SC at the police station on Feb 12, didn't read Miranda rights because he wasn't a suspect. It was during this interview that SC offered to take a polygraph and it was after the polygraph results were examined that he became a person of interest. Loo conducted a second interview, no indication of when this happened, at which he discussed the polygraph results, and he noted that SC's demeanor was the same during the second interview.
There were burn marks on the backs of SC's hands during the first interview.
The hearing continues 10 AM Thursday.

 

[Kapua]

JMHO, but I think the prosecution has more evidence than has been revealed to this point. For example, I wonder if the detectives were able to trace the distinctive grille from Charli's vehicle from the people who had it back to SC. That would be pretty incriminating.

 

[PeterTosh]

Why would SC put his hand near a burning car and why on the backs? Obviously he was not grabbing anything hot. He burned the back so he would have been lifting up under something hot. I remember the family putting the APB on her laptop. Maybe he felt he had to retrieve it as there might have been something incriminating on it.