HLN Coverage On Baby Lisa This Hour 10/17/11

[Kat]

Back on but a short snippet for Dancing with stars on now.

 

[Kat]

The bigger issue going on with Lisa case, a reminder to all of us (JVM) when you have children the equation changes and you can't have adult time when you want it (something like that)

Honoring fallen soldier.

Going off now.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

They are talking about neighbor's home. LE reported to have told them that the items removed from home was related to dog scents (dog searches).

:waitasec:

 

[Whisperer]

Does Tylenol PM make people black out that they forget to lock their door and window or when they last checked on their sick baby?

I've never taken a Tylenol PM so asking if it has the same effect as 5 or more glasses of wine.

Tylenol PM contains benedryl. It is a safe med. Benedryl makes one sleepy. This gal has many problems, the least of which is possible alcoholism. I suspect she possesses an Axis I.

 

[Kat]

I don't know either MK we need to ask Sarx.

ETA: IMO the reporter that stated that on NG show looked like he didn't believe it either.

 

[Kat]

Dr. Drew talking about Lisa tonight.

(other cases too. MJ)

 

[Whisperer]

I suspect she will be arrested by Wednesday for neglect. This father is interesting. He is holding tight with the mother. He should be suspicious, imo. He looks like he may have a really bad temper.

So they moved from the house? must be bugged...

 

[Kat]

dr. Drew showing snips of interviews with Deborah from today.

Showing snip of defense attn. talking.

Does the MOther being drunk having anything to do with this case?

Body language expert among other TH's.

Jim: the real point here today was to reset perception of DB. She admitted she was drunk that night and she altered the timeline. Defense attn sounded like he is starting to build a defense. Would she been able to pull this off drunk, would she have slept through intruder?

 

[katydid23]

What if DB had taken a sleeping pill (say, Tylenol PM) instead of drinking. Would you think differently?

That depends upon how much one is knocked out by a tylenol pm. Personally, I do have a problem with the parent in charge of 3 young children taking ANYTHING that makes them unable to handle life's small emergencies. She had a sick infant. She assumed it was a cold. But most parents have stories of a young child with a cold or a flu suddenly escalating into something more serious, and often in the middle of the night. Who has not woken up to projectile vomiting and diarrhea at least once in their parental life? It is important to be able to hear an infant if they begin to choke or vomit in the dead of night.

 

[panthera]

Dr. Drew talking about Lisa tonight.

(other cases too. MJ)

Thankfully! Dr. Drew often has more professional insight into cases lately.

 

[Truthwillsetufree]

What if DB had taken a sleeping pill (say, Tylenol PM) instead of drinking. Would you think differently?

Tylenol PM and Benedryl are pretty much, simply both diphenhydramine.
One can not compare Tylenol PM to alcohol, and self admitted overindulgence of alcohol to the point of being drunk. There is simply no comparison. JMO.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0000704/

[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tylenol"]Tylenol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

 

[Whisperer]

OMG! Kim Picazio is on Dr. Drew. She doesn't believe the mother. I'm with Kim on this.

 

[panthera]

That depends upon how much one is knocked out by a tylenol pm. Personally, I do have a problem with the parent in charge of 3 young children taking ANYTHING that makes them unable to handle life's small emergencies. She had a sick infant. She assumed it was a cold. But most parents have stories of a young child with a cold or a flu suddenly escalating into something more serious, and often in the middle of the night. Who has not woken up to projectile vomiting and diarrhea at least once in their parental life? It is important to be able to hear an infant if they begin to choke or vomit in the dead of night.

Exactly. That is the biggest problem here. As I said, what purpose did the baby monitor serve if she couldn't hear the baby crying, or worse?

:banghead:

 

[PlainJaneDoe]

What if DB had taken a sleeping pill (say, Tylenol PM) instead of drinking. Would you think differently?

I think you have to consider how the drug affects her individually. Tylenol PM doesn't do much for me unless I have a cold. But one of my lab mates gets completely knocked out by it and last week she slept for 12 hours straight after taking 2. So, if DB has a history of reactions like my lab mate, then yes I would think it was a bad idea. If she didn't know how she would react, I would say it was a bad idea because it's not the best time to experiment when you are responsible for 3 minors. JMO. Also, if it's true that she was taking AD or AA meds, then she shouldn't gave been drinking, per the drug info handed out with each rx at the pharmacy. I am not saying that any of this means she did something to harm Lisa or that she is a bad person. I just think that, based on the info I have, she didn't make the best choices.

 

[Kat]

They gave consent for dogs to go into their home.

Dogs went into neighbors home too.

TH didn't catch her name: (family lawyer) you can't do what you want when you want when you are a parent. She should have traded off child rearing responsiblities---predicts this has something to do with Lisa's disappearance.

Not letting children be reinterviewed is suspect. I would let my child do it everyday if they needed. Not giving LE tools they need to find missing child is (missed this word sorry).

Showing JT---no recollection discrepancies.

 

[gwenabob]

Didn't the boys have school in the morning? How did she think she was going to function in the morning getting kids to school and taking care of an infant who will be up at the crack of dawn, since she went to bed so early? Her husband wasn't going to get up with them since he worked until the wee hours of the morning. I don't get this. At all. And I don't think it is very "adult" to get drunk when one is home alone with three small ones and you have to get up early the next day. I would call that downright "childish!"

 

[panthera]

They gave consent for dogs to go into their home.

Dogs went into neighbors home too.

TH didn't catch her name: (family lawyer) you can't do what you want when you want when you are a parent. She should have traded off child rearing responsiblities---predicts this has something to do with Lisa's disappearance.

Not letting children be reinterviewed is suspect. I would let my child do it everyday if they needed. Not giving LE tools they need to find missing child is (missed this word sorry).

Showing JT---no recollection discrepancies.

The lady is attorney Kim Picazio. And I agree with her 100%!

 

[Kat]

She is not liking JI's demeanor either. She predicts we will see more of that attn and less of parent. (didn't recognize KP) You get your statements done with LE, you do not go to the press. Every statement she's made will be played to the courtroom (possibly).

Body lang expert: a lot of embarrassment and shame he's constantly looking down. There is something else he does ---if you look at a dog that looks ashamed that is what he does, when he is asked questions he swallows hard and bites his lip---classic sign of deception. Don't know what he is being deceptive about but he is showing signs of deception.

Gone to commercial.

 

[Lovespasta]

could she have been suffering from post partum depression? She was taking anti anxiety medication, drinking till passing out or blacking out.

 

[PlainJaneDoe]

They gave consent for dogs to go into their home.

Dogs went into neighbors home too.

TH didn't catch her name: (family lawyer) you can't do what you want when you want when you are a parent. She should have traded off child rearing responsiblities---predicts this has something to do with Lisa's disappearance.

Not letting children be reinterviewed is suspect. I would let my child do it everyday if they needed. Not giving LE tools they need to find missing child is (missed this word sorry).

Showing JT---no recollection discrepancies.

Who or what is JT?