Holly Bobo Case Status Hearings, 12/17/2014

[oceanblueeyes]

"That discussion had apparently taken place on Friday when Stowe and Gwyn had met about the Holly Bobo murder case in Decatur County. According to law enforcement sources, Stowe expressed displeasure at that time about the TBI’s performance on the Bobo case."


"At Tuesday’s meeting, Gwyn apparently told law enforcement personnel the TBI would stop performing investigations in the 24th District at Stowe’s behest."

http://www.parispi.net/news/article_5c040a02-85aa-11e4-8f1b-2fc515f91469.html

It sounds like the TBI is dragging their feet returning the (discovery) evidence results from their labs. So much so that Stowe is going to get another lab to do the work. It just makes sense to me if they were doing things in a timely manner he wouldn't be displeased with them.

Isn't Stowe's complaints inline with the constant criticism that has been touted by others against the TBI in this case. I still cant understand why it took them three years to arrest these three defendants.

If their labs aren't returning the results back to Stowe after this long then they should have their hand slapped. They aren't the one who has to answer to the Judge and they know it. If they are stalling on returning the evidence needed in this case then it is Stowe who gets raked over the coals for it. And if they are slow in letting him know what evidence they have uncovered in their ongoing investigation... I can certainly see why he has a problem with them.

I bet they haven't even gotten around to accessing the cell phone data yet from Pearcy's phone.

 

[Suthrnqt]

Subscribing ......

 

[Dr. Know?]

Investigators, District Attorney Feud Over Holly Bobo Case

"Stowe made allegations of misconduct by TBI and other law enforcement agencies, both local and federal. He also repeatedly stated he wanted our Agency to suspend all activities in his district," TBI director Mark Gwyn said in a statement Wednesday. He added that the agency "has discontinued its investigation into the Holly Bobo case" until further notice.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...ct-attorney-feud-over-holly-bobo-case-n270586

(I've been reading rumors about this stuff, well corruption)

 

[Tugela]

It sounds like DA Stowe may be stepping on some toes.

How many here has continuously criticized the TBI and how they have handled this case? Maybe Stowe has the same opinion.

Maybe he blasted them during the meeting telling them they should have produced the evidence to arrest these three much sooner and because they took three years it has made his work harder.

If he did tell them how he felt they could have gotten their egos hurt and now want to bow-up and refuse to be involved in any cases in his district.

While I have given the TBI the benefit of the doubt in this case...... I have seen in other TN cases where they do think they run a case when they aren't even the ones that have to prove it BARD in court.

IMO

I think it is more likely that the arrests were made with insufficient, dubious or uncorroborated evidence, and now he has to go to trial with what they have given him. So he probably is less than happy about that, since he will become the fall guy.

It would fit in with the bizarre manner in which all this secondary arrests/allegations with little apparent evidence have unfolded. I think it is very possible that the original arrests and indictment were made based on DA's initial allegations, and corroborated by SAs claims, neither of which subsequently turned out to be supported by evidence. So they have a big problem. That would explain the arrests of the P brothers on what clearly is very flimsy grounds, all the threats of withdrawing immunity agreements, the subsequent charging of their principal witness (DA) on rape charges. All of those things appear to be attempts to intimidate witnesses into saying what they want them to say through "deals". And then the apparent failure to turn over discovery even after directed to do so. It all implies that they do not have a case and know it, and are trying to stall and/or cover that fact up in the hope that something else turns up.

This whole case seems to be turning into a fiasco and dismissal is becoming more and more likely I think.

For Stowe personally, the buck stops with him even though he isn't responsible for all of what happened before, so he has to take this mess and try to salvage his career from it.

 

[SteveS]

If I understand the developments in court yesterday from 3rd hand info, the DA is coming to a put-up-or-shut-up crossroads in a week.

From what I read, the judge ordered him to provide a bill of particulars in 7 days to the court, to provide to the defense, because of the allegation that the DA has not complied with the discovery requirements. That was followed shortly by the judge saying he's not going to condone the hiding of evidence. If the "bill of particulars" lacks things that are later introduced at trial, or includes things that have not been provided to the defense already, it could jeopardize the case. This could be a big deal and get ugly, but hopefully all is in order. We'll see.

 

[shefner]

From the start, TBI screwed this case. No doubt about it. Don't know much about Stowe.....will have to wait and see.
T.B.I. = Terribly Bungled Investigations

I am thankful for all the good men and women in these organizations who give it their all. Don't misunderstand. But Holly deserves better, as do other men and women of Tennessee.
Now the DA better open some whip......and get the ball rolling on this case. Pronto.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

This is the question. Why can't judge allow hat?

I don't think the Judge can make a ruling on that Katy.

It is up to the jail and their rules. The Judge has no authority over how the jail is run. That is left up to the Sheriff who is housing the defendant(s) in the jail. And even when the lawyer and defendants do meet there is usually an officer in the room. That is for the safety of the attorney. We have recently seen cases where defendants have attacked their own attorneys. And from what I gather these defendants are considered dangerous. Didn't ZA already attack a jailer or do I have that wrong?

 

[Migmuu]

Oh no... I have this horrible feeling that the prosecution may have bungled the case bad and that the reason they've been withholding stuff from the defense is that they don't have much strong evidence.

At this point I wouldn't be surprised if the charges are dismissed (and possibly reinstated).

 

[Dr. Know?]

A little about why Jennifer Nichols wants off the case. Her boss wants her off the case.

TBI cuts ties with 24th Judicial District

Gwyn said that Stowe attacked the work of the TBI and other agencies involved in the Bobo investigation at a meeting Friday, which also was attended by Amy Weirich, 30th District attorney general; Garry Brown, 28th District attorney general and president of the Tennessee District Attorneys General Conference; and Wally Kirby, executive director of the conference.

Following the meeting, Weirich also has sought to remove her office's resources from the investigation, Gwyn said. Weirich's office had a deputy district attorney with experience in death-penalty case assigned to help. Stowe has said he is considering seeking the death penalty for Zach Adams and Jason Autry, the two suspects charged with Bobo's murder.

Weirich filed a motion in Decatur County Circuit Court on Wednesday seeking to have her deputy district attorney, Jennifer Nichols, removed from the case.

more
http://www.jacksonsun.com/story/new...53/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

 

[shefner]

A little about why Jennifer Nichols wants off the case. Her boss wants her off the case.

TBI cuts ties with 24th Judicial District

Gwyn said that Stowe attacked the work of the TBI and other agencies involved in the Bobo investigation at a meeting Friday, which also was attended by Amy Weirich, 30th District attorney general; Garry Brown, 28th District attorney general and president of the Tennessee District Attorneys General Conference; and Wally Kirby, executive director of the conference.

Following the meeting, Weirich also has sought to remove her office's resources from the investigation, Gwyn said. Weirich's office had a deputy district attorney with experience in death-penalty case assigned to help. Stowe has said he is considering seeking the death penalty for Zach Adams and Jason Autry, the two suspects charged with Bobo's murder.

Weirich filed a motion in Decatur County Circuit Court on Wednesday seeking to have her deputy district attorney, Jennifer Nichols, removed from the case.

more
http://www.jacksonsun.com/story/new...53/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

I think I'm in love with Stowe already.

 

[Peliman]

Sounds like the DA ruffled some feathers at the TBI but just talking out loud here it might have been needed. The DA is trying to put together a death penalty case here and still doesn't have the results of some forensics. How can he evaluate his case if he doesn't have some results of forensics? He doesn't have the information to provide the defense with discovery. Kinda like you can only drive as fast as the car in front of you.

I can imagine a judge stepping in here and denying Nichols motion to withdraw and mediate between the two agencies. IMO

 

[shefner]

Without having the particulars about how Stowe "attacked" these investigative agencies, I can't say much. But from the outside looking in, it seems we have in Stowe a man who is sick and tired of the establishment and how they have mishandled Holly's case from day one. All along we've been asking the same resonating questions about what is taking so long....and why haven't they done this or that. Using other well-handled cases as a comparison, we can see that the Bobo case has lacked top-notch over site. Some of us thought it might be the "good old boy" system in that area.
Whatever the case, Stowe has stirred the pot. I hope he's ready for the next step.

Can agencies just withdraw their support from a case like this? I mean these are state agencies helping the state present its case.

 

[Dr. Know?]

I'm puzzled how the TBI can just pull out of the 24th District. Taxpayers from those counties pay for their services. Stowe said it was Gwyn who walked out of the meeting. He's written at least two letters stating he didn't ask for the TBI to be removed. On top of that, another district's DA (30th) pulls her support of her staff due to the argument. smh

Stowe surely has ruffled some feathers. Good. Get whatever it is out in the open.

(although they want it behind closed doors) jmo

 

[shefner]

I'm puzzled how the TBI can just pull out of the 24th District. Taxpayers from those counties pay for their services. Stowe said it was Gwyn who walked out of the meeting. He's written at least two letters stating he didn't ask for the TBI to be removed. On top of that, another district's DA (30th) pulls her support of her staff due to the argument. smh

Stowe surely has ruffled some feathers. Good. Get whatever it is out in the open.

(although they want it behind closed doors) jmo

In total agreement with you Dr. Know....

 

[Foxfire]

I'm puzzled how the TBI can just pull out of the 24th District. Taxpayers from those counties pay for their services. Stowe said it was Gwyn who walked out of the meeting. He's written at least two letters stating he didn't ask for the TBI to be removed. On top of that, another district's DA (30th) pulls her support of her staff due to the argument. smh

Stowe surely has ruffled some feathers. Good. Get whatever it is out in the open.

(although they want it behind closed doors) jmo

'Tennessee, is not exactly the Sunshine State, huh'?

 

[ZooSleuth]

Can somebody please explain how the TBI has messed up the investigation? Are they known for being inept? I didn't start following this case until the arrests were made.

 

[Mercurydime]

If anyone knows, who does Gwyn answer to? Who's his boss? The governer? The state attorney general (if there is one)?

I guess at that level, not too many people can or want to mess with your decisions huh?

 

[Foxfire]

If anyone knows, who does Gwyn answer to? Who's his boss? The governer? The state attorney general (if there is one)?

I guess at that level, not too many people can or want to mess with your decisions huh?

Mecurydime, "I'm sorry we can't release that information due to an active ongoing investigation"...
Seriously, TBI Director Mark Gwyn was reappointed by Governor Haslam....

http://www.tbi.state.tn.us/documents/Directors2013Bio.pdf
Biography of Director Mark R. Gwyn

In 2010, Tennessee Governor Phil Bredesen reappointed Mark Gwyn to serve a second term as
Director of the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation (TBI), the state’s lead investigative law
enforcement agency.

He was appointed to his first six-year term in 2004 and is the first AfricanAmerican
to ever serve in this capacity. The position prompted Director Gwyn to be a catalyst
for change within the bureau emphasizing the use of technology in law enforcement.
<snied - read more>

 

[Arnie M]

Oh no... I have this horrible feeling that the prosecution may have bungled the case bad and that the reason they've been withholding stuff from the defense is that they don't have much strong evidence.

At this point I wouldn't be surprised if the charges are dismissed (and possibly reinstated).

You may very well be correct .... too much pressure from society to arrest somebody .... and then maybe not enough clear evidence to prove it in court .

Tough situation

 

[Dr. Know?]

Chris Conte &#8207;@chrisconte · 12m12 minutes ago
Expert on current fiasco surrounding #HollyBobo DA Matt Stowe and TBI "Someone could get away with murder" @NC5 pic.twitter.com/LQxaUBlUw1




If Stowe can back up what he supposedly knows, I hope he has all the support he can get.