Holly Bobo found deceased, discussion thread *Arrests* #8

[Niner]

L&C is live streaming. I'm behind on the feed so I don't know what's on exactly at this moment. And Cathy Russon is a good follow on X.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1991874682946277475

Thanks for the links - can't access twitter anymore since I unsubscribed from there. Is it too much of a bother for you to post Cathy's tweets here? So I get the "basics" on what is happening in the court hearing for my notes.

 

[Megnut]

Is anyone watching this live?

This is insane.

Not even sure what I'm watching. One attorney whining that the judge was on her about everything, it was hot in the courtroom, yada, yada, so they're should be a new trial????

What am I missing?

 

[StarryStarryNight]

This hearing is absolutely insane to me. Jennifer Thompson is basically giving testimony about how she was depressed cause people were mean to her and therefore she was not competent. It seems like this judge is allowing these witnesses to just go every which way in this hearing. Shouldn't their testimony be limited to what's relevant to this hearing? It seems like they are rehashing all the decisions, choices, events, personal issues etc that took place leading up to the trial & during the trial. The defense is relitigating facts and the witnesses are complaining about the evidence/witnesses.

JMO

I don’t have time to watch so I appreciate the updates.
This truly sounds insane.
Hopefully, although it seems the judge is allowing all this wildness, maybe he’s just letting them have their say, but will rule in a legally appropriate way.
I hope so anyway.

 

[Megnut]

I don’t have time to watch so I appreciate the updates.
This truly sounds insane.
Hopefully, although it seems the judge is allowing all this wildness, maybe he’s just letting them have their say, but will rule in a legally appropriate way.
I hope so anyway.

Do they really think he didn't do it???? They all sounds like they were dotty attorneys, bumbling around, not sure how to try a case. Felt pressured. Why are they doing this? Some deep truth, not sitting right in their bellies?

Seems like EVERY prosecution can second guess itself, every defense attorney father hindsight, but we don't retry cases just because we wanna.

I'm dumbstruck here.

JMO

 

[StarryStarryNight]

Do they really think he didn't do it???? They all sounds like they were dotty attorneys, bumbling around, not sure how to try a case. Felt pressured. Why are they doing this? Some deep truth, not sitting right in their bellies?

Seems like EVERY prosecution can second guess itself, every defense attorney father hindsight, but we don't retry cases just because we wanna.

I'm dumbstruck here.

JMO

Jennifer Thompson was Adam’s defense attorney. I guess she’s willing to label herself as an incompetent lawyer, which I would think would tank her career, just to try to get him off. Sounds like an all out desperate attempt.
I am entirely comfortable with the verdict. I hope the judge is too.

 

[Weki]

Cross examination has begun. I hope this puts a stop to this nonsense.

 

[Weki]

I don’t have time to watch so I appreciate the updates.
This truly sounds insane.
Hopefully, although it seems the judge is allowing all this wildness, maybe he’s just letting them have their say, but will rule in a legally appropriate way.
I hope so anyway.

BBM

That's what I'm hoping for as well cause what I've heard at this hearing is just a bunch of whining. If this is all it takes to get a new trial, our justice system is more broken than what I thought. Also, if all it takes is for a defense atty to come forward post-verdict and say he or she was depressed and didn't fight hard enough.....well....every defense atty can get a new trial.

JMO

 

[Weki]

Cross examination is off to a great start. Prosecutor is getting Thompson to acknowledge that she had a ton of experts that she talked to or engaged. Every kind of expert you can think of incuding a memory expert and one she couldn't even remember what they did. In addition, she had two private investigation firms helping.

 

[Weki]

I believe Thompson straight up lied about whether she talked to Zach about testifying. She equivocated and finally said she only talked to him in the negative sense i.e., "you shouldn't testify." Prosecutor follows up and asks if Zach insisted that he wanted to testify and Thompson says "I don't remember." Ha!! Zach testified that he wanted to testify. He wanted to get on the stand and proclaim his innocence but was persuaded not to by his counsel.

JMO

 

[Weki]

This is amazing. We have literal audio of the defense team discussing strategy and they're talking about how they're gonna blame Britt for this crime but they need to be careful because they have nothing to prove that he did it. I guess when you claim ineffective assistance of counsel you have to turn over all your work product in discovery for the other side to review. I've never seen this much curtain pulling on defense discussions/strategy in a murder case.

I'm talking to myself. LOL.

JMO

 

[browneyes]

This is amazing. We have literal audio of the defense team discussing strategy and they're talking about how they're gonna blame Britt for this crime but they need to be careful because they have nothing to prove that he did it. I guess when you claim ineffective assistance of counsel you have to turn over all your work product in discovery for the other side to review. I've never seen this much curtain pulling on defense discussions/strategy in a murder case.

I'm talking to myself. LOL.

JMO

I’m listening to you.

 

[Weki]

Mysteriously a ton of audio of discussions with Zach, co-counsel, investigators etc has all been lost at this point and unrecoverable.

 

[Weki]

Q: Do you have memory of gathering information to show your client couldn't have done this?

A: No. The problem is it's hard to prove a negative.

Q: Did you gather proof to show Britt did do it?

A: Yes. We went and prepared what Dykas had found.

Q: All you had to do was convice one juror?

A: Yes.

Q: 2,000 indvidual files on your client alone?

A: Yes

Q: But not one file on anything your client told you?

A: I don't have any memory of what's in the file

Q: You subpoenaed 80 ppl, correct?

A: Yes

Q: 4500 individual files alone on Autry?

A: We had a lot of material on Autry

Q: 11 hours spent compiling witness folders?

A: Sure

Q: You billed 2,870 hours? Would that surprise you?

A: It doesn't surprise me

Q: Any request for discovery that was denied you?

A: No

Every morning before court she ironed his clothes and put make up on him.

 

[Weki]

Prosecutor goes through all the great work Thompson did cross examining and challenging witnesses. She interviewed many of the witnesses prior to trial. She claims at one point Dinsmore did not admit that he had inconsistencies in his testimony. Prosecutor asks if she's always able to get witnesses to admit to things she wants them to and her answer Yes, usually!

I watched the trial and my opinion is that while it clearly seems Thompson did a lot of prep and was diligent she's not a great litigator. Her performance in the courtroom was not compelling. I don't know if she was just burned out from all the extensive work she did prior to the trial or if she's just lacking in courtroom swagger. It still doesn't mean her client deserves a new trial. She clearly had done all the homework and reviewed all the evidence. There was nothing there to raise reasonable doubt.

JMO

 

[Megnut]

While introducing non-evidence.

Outrageous.

JMO

 

[Weki]

Prosecutor confronts Thompson about her comments regarding co counsel and how they hadn't spent enough time with the evidence like she had (on direct she described what they were doing as 'cowboy lawyering'). She agrees no one ordered her to shut her practice down to work solely on this case. It was her decision. She agrees that she didn't want to get off the case because she was worried the judge would appoint a lawyer who would plead Zach out. She says Zach could've been easily influenced to plead guilty. She says defense lawyers have a lot of influence on clients.

Prosecutor confronts Thompson that she said Judge McGinley was gonna make sure that the case ended in a conviction. Judge stops prosecutor before this line of questioning gets good and says this is not relevant. Prosecutor argues it goes to crediblity because it's an OUTLANDISH comment. Judge says he will consider it.

Prosecutor ends by asking if Thompson reported herself to the Board of Professional Responsibility and Thompson says no.

 

[Weki]

Both Zach Adams and his lawyer, Jennifer Thompson, have been smirking at several points throughout their testimony. At one point Thompson is talking about how she couldn't get much out of her client because he was "methy," she said that a handful of times with a weird smile, and the prosecutor finally says for the record, "you keep smiling when you say that." Thompson also called the prosecutor "Amy" a couple of times. So unprofessional. I never liked Thompson during the trial and I'm finding more things to dislike during this tedious hearing.

JMO

 

[Weki]

Defense rested. No more witnesses. Thank God!

Back on December 29 & 30. State will call 6 witnesses.

 

[worm]

I'll admit that I think he may pull a new trial on this.

 

[Megnut]

I'll admit that I think he may pull a new trial on this.

I hope not. But maybe a couple of licenses should be pulled.

JMO