Holly Bobo, missing from TN 2014 discussion #3 ***ARREST***

[dog.gone.cute]

From News Channel 5:


Third Person May Be Charged In Holly Bobo Murder Case


DECATURVILLE, Tenn. – A third person was expected to be indicted in the kidnapping and murder of Holly Bobo after reportedly violating the terms of an immunity deal.

Shayne Kyle Austin, age 29, had apparently given prosecutors information in the case. As part of a deal to keep him out of jail, he was granted immunity in exchange for his cooperation.



http://www.newschannel5.com/story/25390254/third-person-may-be-charged-in-holly-bobo-murder-case

 

[dog.gone.cute]

Notice after the press update when TBI Director Mark Gwyn, was asked if there was a video of HB getting raped and shot. He did not respond but asked General McAddams to take the question, who said, "NO"! Actions speak much louder than words, imo...

Watch the facial expressions on their faces when this question was asked..
http://www.wsmv.com/story/25377351/...olly-bobo-case?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_med

:bump: Link from yesterday's Presser for anyone who missed it:

http://www.wsmv.com/story/25377351/...olly-bobo-case?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_med


:tyou: Foxfire !

 

[Bravo]

Just a thought but as I said up thread I googled "Train" last night. If u check out the slang term it describes :tantrum: how an intended victim may be drugged and the line up:banghead::banghead: breaks my heart this might be the case.

 

[mountainguy777]

Just a thought but as I said up thread I googled "Train" last night. If u check out the slang term it describes :tantrum: how an intended victim may be drugged and the line up:banghead::banghead: breaks my heart this might be the case.

Autry is also like 6'8".....so I am hoping the "train" nickname is because being punched by him was like being hit by a train.

 

[Wonless]

I think the motive lies in the surrounding week or weeks before.

I agree, or another possibility is they intended to burglarize the Bobo home and Holly coming outside was a spur of the moment opportunity. That kind of split second thing fits the MO of someone high on drugs.

Interesting to think JWA may have been the camo man...interesting thought. ZA waiting in the getaway vehicle because JWA was more familiar with the layout of the home.... I wonder.

 

[Bravo]

Just a comment on these guys picking a pretty girl. As we often see. They know these goal oriented attractive girls would never give guys like this the time of day. Rightfully so. There in lies the power and control. The only way to have her is to take her :banghead: Seems in these cases there are plenty of women in "their league" willing to hang out and put up with these creeps. Evident on their social media. So no power and control needed there.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

Links for today's conference:


https://twitter.com/willnunley


http://www.wsmv.com/category/213709/news-live-stream


http://www.newschannel5.com/category/266205/watch-live

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Every town has its thugs. Every town has its drugs. But it is pretty darn rare for this to lead to hiding outside someone's home around 6:30 a.m. just for crimes sake. What's the motive? If holly was tortured for days, that sounds like revenge and extreme anger. I can see a crazy person who stalked holly to rape her doing this, but the more people added to the mix means you have a group of equally crazy people. Rare.

I am not sure what you mean. Unfortunately plenty of females both children, and adults have been kidnapped by a predator right in broad daylight. Many of them on very busy streets and no one saw or heard a thing. Plenty of those suspects were drug addicts. Kidnapping Holly in a remote rural area would be even easier than those who nab the victims off the streets during the day.

I have clearly stated my opinion on the motive already and I stand by it.

The only difference in this case compared to other cases with the same circumstances is after she was kidnapped she was passed around to others instead of one sole predator keeping her all to himself.

And the other double murder case I mentioned where meth addicts were involved in murdering two young men.... they also could have murdered them shortly after they were both kidnapped, but they DIDN'T. They preferred to torture these two men for seven long days until they killed them.

I don't think anyone there involved were crazy but they were strung out violent meth heads, imo. It seems when meth addicts group up in numbers to brutalize and murder their victim(s) they are as viscous as rabid dogs.

IMO

 

[ThoughtFox]

WSMV is tweeting that they are going livestream the Autry and Adams court appearances.
http://www.wsmv.com/

@WSMVSarahClause: We WILL be live streaming the Adams/Autry court appearances on http://wsmv.com ! #hollybobo

SteveCoffman1 1h
Read court documents about the immunity deal with a man targeted in the #hollybobo investigation: http://bit.ly/1md7Ake

More details here from Jackson Sun:
http://www.jacksonsun.com/article/2...unity-is-a-third-target-in-Bobo-investigation

To me, the fact that they are now reporting that Holly was seen alive means that the remark about Holly being killed "during the kidnapping" means that the entire event was the kidnapping, not just the original abduction.

 

[Dogface]

Ok I just watched the press conference from yesterday(yesterday I went to a site and clicked what I thought was the PC and it ended up being video of the first PC and I didn't realize until they announced a murder charge and I heard the scream/gasp) and what happened or was said in court to lead the reporter to ask the question about the video? I would go back and try to find it but I am in the middle of painting a table for a client and have to finish ASAP!

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Do you all remember a case.. I'm not sure when it was. a couple of decades ago, I think it was...well...

A well liked cheerleader ( Heather Rich ) in Oklahoma, started hanging out with a few people, smoking pot, drinking and such.. one of the guys was a boyfriend then just friend..He was a football player, then there was his friend, and then another guy who was the badass... well they all partied with this girl all night...then one had sex with her, then the badass decided to rape her, she was trashed, didn't know what was going on and then when she came out of it.. the badass freaked out because she figured out what happened...

Well....they took her to a bridge, over the state line into Texas and the badass shot her several times.. The one who use to be her boyfriend turned states evidence and he was going to serve a few years and then he changed his mind, because he wanted his story to be believed...and ended up getting life...Her parents thought he didn't deserve life because he told all that happened.. Do you all remember that??

I thought about this case last night, when all this came out about deals and Shayne Austin ( which I think he is just trying to cover his butt ) and then Dylan.

I think this was all meth/drugs/sex induced inspired. I think they have been so hyped up and they picked Holly just for this reason. Of course just my opinion.

Maybe I am not understanding the comparison. If I am not please forgive me. But are you thinking Holly was hanging out with the A-Train?:scared:

If so, I don't think Holly ever associated with anyone in Adams circle.

But it does remind me of a case where so many knew a teen had murdered his girlfriend. They were on school campus, and there was a wooded area not far from campus, and he talked her into going there one day with him, and then he murdered her leaving her body there.

After he murdered her he told several students at the high school and many teens (up to 15) would go to where her body lay and would look at the body on a daily basis never telling LE who was looking for the missing young girl. I remember he tried to use 'steroid 'abuse as a defense. Which failed iirc.

It just shows people can know murders have been committed yet they tell no one.

I agree totally on the motive though you have posted. I do believe the motive was fueled by meth and it was all about sex.

IMO

 

[rob]

If I remember correctly, at the coon hunt, these guys were harassing, flirting, talking junk to, whatever, to Holly, and her mom told them to get lost. I can see this type of guy saying, 'who does she think she is, too good to talk to us, we'll show her and her mom'.
There had to be a plan in place, to be there at that time of the morning, to know what time she left for school. If they were really involved in the other young blond, that dropped the lamp and alerted the boyfriend with the noise, then they have a pattern of behavior.

 

[Kimster]

Every town has its thugs. Every town has its drugs. But it is pretty darn rare for this to lead to hiding outside someone's home around 6:30 a.m. just for crimes sake. What's the motive? If holly was tortured for days, that sounds like revenge and extreme anger. I can see a crazy person who stalked holly to rape her doing this, but the more people added to the mix means you have a group of equally crazy people. Rare.

Rare, but it happens. People are even lured to locations just for a thrill kill, as in the case of Timothy Bosma.

 

[maskedwoman]

I think the motive lies in the surrounding week or weeks before.

I think motive in the traditional sense is not always something you get with drug related cases. I have heard of some pretty ghastly crimes being rooted in something as simple as one person being egged on to do something that got ugly fast. Sometimes people are just brutal, mindless animals who need to be put down like the animals they are.

Even without drugs, what we think of as a motive isn't always present. I watched an episode of Cold Justice where a guy admitted he killed a young woman. They had been drinking (maybe smoking pot, not sure about that), and hanging out in the pool. He and his friend left, and he came back for something. He admitted he didn't say anything to her, she didn't do anything to set him off, but he picked up a knife and stabbed her to death before he knew what he had done.

There was no motive ever discussed or attempted for that crime, but they did learn the guy had a history of suddenly turning violent for no apparent reason.

 

[Foxfire]

IMO, the motive was sexual assault fueled by meth use.

Also, it appears that more than one male participated in the sexual assault indicating it was planned. They never had any intentions of letting her live once they went through with the kidnapping.

I agree epiphany.. 100%..

 

[oceanblueeyes]

WSMV is tweeting that they are going livestream the Autry and Adams court appearances.
http://www.wsmv.com/

@WSMVSarahClause: We WILL be live streaming the Adams/Autry court appearances on http://wsmv.com ! #hollybobo

SteveCoffman1 1h
Read court documents about the immunity deal with a man targeted in the #hollybobo investigation: http://bit.ly/1md7Ake

More details here from Jackson Sun:
http://www.jacksonsun.com/article/2...unity-is-a-third-target-in-Bobo-investigation

To me, the fact that they are now reporting that Holly was seen alive means that the remark about Holly being killed "during the kidnapping" means that the entire event was the kidnapping, not just the original abduction.

BBM

You are exactly correct, TF. I have realized that some have been somewhat confused by that for some reason. The kidnapping felony doesn't ever end after the original kidnapping has taken place.

By law it is one continuous felony the entire time the victim is being held against their will by ANYONE........which can be one person if only one perp is involved or it pertains to ANY and ALL suspects if multiples were involved who held the victim against their will at anytime.

I have even seen kidnapping charges applied in other cases where the victim was being held against their will inside of their own home. Kidnapping simply means that one or more people are restraining the victim from leaving on their own free will.

And we all know if they had given Holly a choice she would have left that house of horrors immediately. Her own free will to leave was taken from her.

IMO

 

[maskedwoman]

If I remember correctly, at the coon hunt, these guys were harassing, flirting, talking junk to, whatever, to Holly, and her mom told them to get lost. I can see this type of guy saying, 'who does she think she is, too good to talk to us, we'll show her and her mom'.
There had to be a plan in place, to be there at that time of the morning, to know what time she left for school. If they were really involved in the other young blond, that dropped the lamp and alerted the boyfriend with the noise, then they have a pattern of behavior.

I have long ago become hazy on whether the coon hunt event ever actual tool place, but I do agree that it could be something as simple as her not giving them the time of day, and them doing this for revenge.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

From Jordan Buie with the Jackson Sun:



Jordan Buie ‏@JordanBuie · 1h

Stay tuned today for more details to be revealed in the #HollyBobo investigation. Yesterday Jason Autry was indicted in the case.



Jordan Buie ‏@JordanBuie · 31m

Police are now roping off the street by the Decatur County Courthouse with yellow police tape #HollyBobo pic.twitter.com/1fAFEJZhiQ

 

[OldSteve]

I do believe they injected her with meth but I do not think it had anything to do with her family. This brutalization of a defenseless woman has nothing to do with revenge against any family member but more about homegrown thugs brutalizing a vulnerable young woman because they knew they could once they had kidnapped her. IMO

They would inject her with meth for two reasons imo. One, to make her more compliant. Two, to inject a young woman they knew hated the drugs they injected her with and would never do them if she had had a choice. They took all of Holly's life choices away from her and invoked their own.

I truly believe that Holly went through hell on earth for days and was tortured, injected with meth, raped repeatedly, and beaten unmercifully.

I don't think the drugs killed Holly. I think they eventually became bored with their snared prey and shot her.

IMO

Now you got me mad! Not at you Ocean :loveyou::loveyou:; but at those thugs! It's the way you wrote that - it created a horrific scene in my noggin - oh, what I'd give to be a Clint Eastwood-like character who busts in upon their sick scene and blasts them all away to save Holly!

 

[~Lyric~]

Maybe I am not understanding the comparison. If I am not please forgive me. But are you thinking Holly was hanging out with the A-Train?:scared:

If so, I don't think Holly ever associated with anyone in Adams circle.

But it does remind me of a case where so many knew a teen had murdered his girlfriend. They were on school campus, and there was a wooded area not far from campus, and he talked her into going there one day with him, and then he murdered her leaving her body there.

After he murdered her he told several students at the high school and many teens (up to 15) would go to where her body lay and would look at the body on a daily basis never telling LE who was looking for the missing young girl. I remember he tried to use 'steroid 'abuse as a defense. Which failed iirc.

It just shows people can know murders have been committed yet they tell no one.

I agree totally on the motive though you have posted. I do believe the motive was fueled by meth and it was all about sex.

IMO

My comparison is merely on the "deal" making for testimony and such.. the ex boyfriend, Wood, I believe was his name, withdrew from the plea deal, because he wanted it to be known he was telling the truth and that his testimony was not because of any kind of plea deals.

I am bad about not finishing my thoughts, and what I was getting at, this Wood guy, finally did the right thing to help all know what actually happened.

If anyone in Holly's case had any kind of integrity about them, whether they were there at the beginning, middle, or the after..they would speak up and let the chips fall.